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Obama Positioning For Backdoor Gun Control

By Chuck Baldwin on (Apr 26, 09)

 

On his recent trip to Central America, President Barack Obama did more than cozy up to Marxist dictators; he also signed onto an international treaty that could, in effect, be used as backdoor gun control. It appears that Obama wants to use international treaties to do what congressional legislation is not able to do: further restrict the right of the American people to keep and bear arms.

 

Obama is using the oft-disproved contention that “90% of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States” as the stated basis of his support for the international treaty he is promoting. The treaty is formally known as the Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and Other Related Materials (CIFTA) treaty. The Bill Clinton administration signed the treaty back in 1997, but the U.S. Senate has never ratified the treaty. Obama intends to change that.

 

To date, 33 nations in the western hemisphere have signed the treaty. The U.S. is one of four nations that have yet to ratify it. According to one senior Obama administration official, passing the treaty is a “high priority” for the President.

 

If ratified, the treaty would require the United States to adopt “strict licensing requirements, mark firearms when they are made and imported to make them easier to trace, and establish a process for sharing information between national law enforcement agencies investigating [gun] smuggling.”

 

Senator John Kerry, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee promises to “work for its [the CIFTA treaty’s] approval by the Senate.”

 

Should the Senate ratify CIFTA, Americans who reload ammunition would be required to get a license from the government, and factory guns and ammunition would be priced almost out of existence due to governmental requirements to “mark” each one manufactured. Even the simple act of adding an after-market piece of equipment to a firearm, such as a scope or bipod, or reassembling a gun after cleaning it could fall into the category of “illicit manufacturing” of firearms and require government license and oversight.

 

In addition, CIFTA would authorize the U.S. federal government (and open the door to international entities) to supervise and regulate virtually the entire American firearms industry. Making matters worse is the fact that, as a treaty, this Act does not have to be passed by both houses of Congress, nor is it subject to judicial oversight. All Obama needs to do in order to enact this unconstitutional and egregious form of gun control is convince a Democratic-controlled Senate to pass it.

 

Obviously, the United Nations, from its very inception, has been one of the world’s most ardent gun control proponents. As anyone who has ever driven by the U.N. building in New York City knows, a huge statue of an American-made revolver with its barrel twisted in the shape of a pretzel greets every visitor. The CIFTA treaty is one of the U.N.’s pet projects in order to achieve this long-held ambition.

 

Of course, Obama is a longtime liberal radical when it comes to the Second Amendment. As a senator, he voted against the Second Amendment at every opportunity. He has never seen a piece of gun control legislation that he did not support. And as I have said before in this column, gun control is high on the list of priorities for the newly elected President Barack Obama.

 

For Obama to intimate that 90% of the firearms used by Mexican drug cartels come from the United States reveals either a truly dishonest and deceptive mind or a totally misinformed and naïve one. Many studies have thoroughly debunked the 90% myth, including one by William La Jeunesse and Maxim Lott in a recent Fox News report. According to these researchers, the real number is closer to 17%.

 

According to La Jeunesse and Lott, Mexican drug cartels, which control billions of dollars, obtain the overwhelming majority of their guns from the Black Market, Russian crime syndicates, South America, China, Guatemala, and even from the Mexican army.

 

In fact, Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar: AK-47s from China; fragmentation grenades from South Korea; shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc dealers; assault weapons from China; and explosives from Korea--just to name a few sources.

 

In addition, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo, more than 150,000 Mexican soldiers have deserted in just the last six years. The vast majority of them took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.

 

And please do not forget that corruption within the Mexican government is rampant. Many news sources have covered stories of how drug cartels bribe Mexican officials. An article in the New York Times last year reported, “One of Mexico’s most notorious drug cartels made huge cash payments to officials in the Mexican attorney general’s office in exchange for confidential information on anti-drug operations . . . the cartel might have had an informant inside the American embassy.”

 

The Mexican drug cartels control a multi-billion dollar enterprise that has more than enough resources to obtain planeloads of weapons from all over the world. For Obama to assert that 90% of the Mexican drug cartels’ firearms come from the United States is a bald-faced lie! Again, either Obama is stupid and naïve or he is deliberately lying to the American people in order to “sell” the CIFTA treaty to the U.S. Senate. I think we all know that Mr. Obama is anything but stupid and naïve.

 

Read more about the CIFTA treaty HERE.

 

In addition to the CIFTA treaty, liberal Chicago Democrat Congressman Bobby Rush has introduced H.R. 45 in the House of Representatives. This bill is anything but subtle. It is an in-your-face gun control bill that would make “Mr. Gun Control,” the late Senator Howard Metzenbaum, shout Hallelujah.

 

H.R. 45 would require a federal license for all handguns and semiautomatics, including the ones you already possess. It would require handgun and semi-auto owners to be thumbprinted at a police station and sign a certificate that the gun will not be kept in a place where it could be used for the defense of the gun owner’s family.

 

Read more about H.R. 45 HERE.

 

In all likelihood, H.R. 45 is probably a long shot at passing both houses of Congress, albeit gun owners should never take any proposed gun control bill for granted. The CIFTA treaty, however, is much more dangerous due to its subtlety and subterfuge, the less cumbersome process of passage, and the fact that it makes U.S. gun owners subject to international gun control laws.

 

All in all, freedom in America is on the Obama White House chopping block. And this much is certain: if the American people do not retain the right to keep and bear arms, every other freedom we hold dear will quickly disappear as well. Moreover, if we do retain the right to keep and bear arms, it will only be because enough of us--and our state and federal legislators--resist the tyrannical gun control machinations of Barack Obama. And that means defeating the CIFTA treaty and H.R. 45.

 

 

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Barack Obama is our savior and he will, by His supreme power and authority, save us from ourselves. All hail our glorious leader!

 

Edit: If Obama, and all the other America hating socialist facists, think that abolition of the the 2nd amendment is something they can do, then they should put it to a referrendum on a state by state basis.

 

The simple truth is that these anti-American socialist facists: Obama, Pelosi and pretty much all the elite liberals in Washington D.C., they know they can't take away our guns through the normal process so they engage in this back door buggery.

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Barack Obama is our savior and he will, by His supreme power and authority, save us from ourselves. All hail our glorious leader!

 

Edit: If Obama, and all the other America hating socialist facists, think that abolition of the the 2nd amendment is something they can do, then they should put it to a referrendum on a state by state basis.

 

The simple truth is that these anti-American socialist facists: Obama, Pelosi and pretty much all the elite liberals in Washington D.C., they know they can't take away our guns through the normal process so they engage in this back door buggery.

 

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/95381...fascist_florist

 

Anyways, I'm a little worried about this even though they misstate a few things in the article. (the 90% figure is wrong, as is the 17% figure. Most independent sources have it as around 35%...etc.)

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the "90%" was a quote of Obama, no?

 

Yessir. I believe Hillary, Pelosi and others have said it as well. The 90% figure has been largely disproved.

 

The Fox News figure, 17%, has also been disproved. Both the Fox News and the Obama number use some faulty statistics.

 

If you really want to delve into it, here you go: http://www.factcheck.org/politics/counting_mexicos_guns.html

 

They conclude that the real figure is probably around 36%.

 

As far as the serial numbers on ammunition goes...things aren't quite as dire as that author would have you believe.

 

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_...al_numbers.html

 

(thanks to Benny Chico for the factcheck tip! I use it a LOT.)

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still whoever voted for him is getting exactly what they asked for

 

Yeah. It will be interesting to see what he tries to do with gun control. His voting record probably hints at his intentions, but it will be difficult to attack guns directly with recent court decisions. I figure he tries for a national registry or tries to jack up gun or ammo prices somehow.

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still whoever voted for him is getting exactly what they asked for

 

 

I don't think most of those people have any clue what the guy stands for or has proposed. The election themes seemed to be mostly anti-bush and "an historic opportunity" (tranlated black guy). The average American has very little interest and less info on anything not gear to a 5 second sound bite. God forbid, we should teach the kids anything about the importance fo the 2nd amendment.

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Man am I tired of all this "socialist" and "fascist" bullsh#t you people keep spouting. You sound like a bunch of ignorant right wing nut jobs! Here's an idea, try being a part of the solution, maybe try to better the world in some small way. OR you can continue to believe that the great muslim anti-christ has come to destroy your lovely american ways of life.

 

And if that's the case, well I'm sure there are some wonderful milita camps in Montana or Oklahoma that you could join where they share the same views you folks do!!! Just be sure to pay your respects to the Tim McVeigh shrine while your there. Because those men know a real patriot when the see it!

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Man am I tired of all this "socialist" and "fascist" bullsh#t you people keep spouting. You sound like a bunch of ignorant right wing nut jobs! Here's an idea, try being a part of the solution, maybe try to better the world in some small way. OR you can continue to believe that the great muslim anti-christ has come to destroy your lovely american ways of life.

 

And if that's the case, well I'm sure there are some wonderful milita camps in Montana or Oklahoma that you could join where they share the same views you folks do!!! Just be sure to pay your respects to the Tim McVeigh shrine while your there. Because those men know a real patriot when the see it!

 

This seems a little extreme...but I agree with the gist of what you are saying. Labeling Obama as a "socialist fascist" (which doesn't really work...socialists and fascists hate each other) does nothing for meaningful conversation. Demonizing someone based simply on their party affiliation is rather irrational.

 

If we want to have a real conversation about real policies, that's outstanding. Childish labeling and name calling does nothing.

 

(and huzkerbob, look at the link I posted in the third post in this thread. "Obama is socialist, communist fascist, typist, florist, manicurist . . ." Hilarious.)

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Man am I tired of all this "socialist" and "fascist" bullsh#t you people keep spouting. You sound like a bunch of ignorant right wing nut jobs! Here's an idea, try being a part of the solution, maybe try to better the world in some small way. OR you can continue to believe that the great muslim anti-christ has come to destroy your lovely american ways of life.

 

And if that's the case, well I'm sure there are some wonderful milita camps in Montana or Oklahoma that you could join where they share the same views you folks do!!! Just be sure to pay your respects to the Tim McVeigh shrine while your there. Because those men know a real patriot when the see it!

 

Talk about ignorant!! So, because somebody cares about the Constitution and their personal freedom you lump them in with the likes of Timothy McVeigh and "rightwing nut jobs?" Nice!! Maybe people are referring to Obama as a socialist because he is a socialist. Take a look at his policies, speeches and ideas for proof. The evidence speaks for itself.

 

Also, how about you take the time to look at the solutions other people present before you start ranting about what is best for the world. Is an all-powerful, dictating government the only way to make the world a better and safer place? Do we need them to run our lives and save us from ourselves? Is that what you truly believe? What's wrong with following the solutions outlined in the Constitution, or is that just too much personal responsibility for you?

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Man am I tired of all this "socialist" and "fascist" bullsh#t you people keep spouting. You sound like a bunch of ignorant right wing nut jobs! Here's an idea, try being a part of the solution, maybe try to better the world in some small way. OR you can continue to believe that the great muslim anti-christ has come to destroy your lovely american ways of life.

 

And if that's the case, well I'm sure there are some wonderful milita camps in Montana or Oklahoma that you could join where they share the same views you folks do!!! Just be sure to pay your respects to the Tim McVeigh shrine while your there. Because those men know a real patriot when the see it!

 

Talk about ignorant!! So, because somebody cares about the Constitution and their personal freedom you lump them in with the likes of Timothy McVeigh and "rightwing nut jobs?" Nice!! Maybe people are referring to Obama as a socialist because he is a socialist. Take a look at his policies, speeches and ideas for proof. The evidence speaks for itself.

 

Also, how about you take the time to look at the solutions other people present before you start ranting about what is best for the world. Is an all-powerful, dictating government the only way to make the world a better and safer place? Do we need them to run our lives and save us from ourselves? Is that what you truly believe? What's wrong with following the solutions outlined in the Constitution, or is that just too much personal responsibility for you?

 

He could probably use the same argument against you . . . maybe he is calling them right-wing nutjobs because they are right-wing nutjobs. (Not agreeing with him, but your argument works both ways.)

 

Obama's policies might seem terrible to some (I'd include myself in the group of doubters to a large extent) but I hardly think they rise to the level of an all-powerful, dictating government. As far as I know our government is still composed of legally elected officials.

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Man am I tired of all this "socialist" and "fascist" bullsh#t you people keep spouting. You sound like a bunch of ignorant right wing nut jobs! Here's an idea, try being a part of the solution, maybe try to better the world in some small way. OR you can continue to believe that the great muslim anti-christ has come to destroy your lovely american ways of life.

 

And if that's the case, well I'm sure there are some wonderful milita camps in Montana or Oklahoma that you could join where they share the same views you folks do!!! Just be sure to pay your respects to the Tim McVeigh shrine while your there. Because those men know a real patriot when the see it!

 

Talk about ignorant!! So, because somebody cares about the Constitution and their personal freedom you lump them in with the likes of Timothy McVeigh and "rightwing nut jobs?" Nice!! Maybe people are referring to Obama as a socialist because he is a socialist. Take a look at his policies, speeches and ideas for proof. The evidence speaks for itself.

 

Also, how about you take the time to look at the solutions other people present before you start ranting about what is best for the world. Is an all-powerful, dictating government the only way to make the world a better and safer place? Do we need them to run our lives and save us from ourselves? Is that what you truly believe? What's wrong with following the solutions outlined in the Constitution, or is that just too much personal responsibility for you?

 

He could probably use the same argument against you . . . maybe he is calling them right-wing nutjobs because they are right-wing nutjobs. (Not agreeing with him, but your argument works both ways.)

 

Obama's policies might seem terrible to some (I'd include myself in the group of doubters to a large extent) but I hardly think they rise to the level of an all-powerful, dictating government. As far as I know our government is still composed of legally elected officials.

 

So what your saying is, because I believe in the Constitution and individual liberty I should be lumped in with those considered to be right wing nut jobs, even if I don't believe in any of their other wacky ideology? Because that's exactly what he said. If that's not true, your point is moot.

 

And yes, while Obama's policies will definitely lead to unprecedented control by the government and great loss of personal freedom that wasn't the point of what I was saying. What I was referring to was the fact that huskerbob thinks that if we all just bow down to governments control, never question their solutions or policies and come to rely on them for everything from jobs to safety then the world will be a much safer, more prosperous place. I could just imagine that utopia :sarcasm

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Man am I tired of all this "socialist" and "fascist" bullsh#t you people keep spouting. You sound like a bunch of ignorant right wing nut jobs! Here's an idea, try being a part of the solution, maybe try to better the world in some small way. OR you can continue to believe that the great muslim anti-christ has come to destroy your lovely american ways of life.

 

And if that's the case, well I'm sure there are some wonderful milita camps in Montana or Oklahoma that you could join where they share the same views you folks do!!! Just be sure to pay your respects to the Tim McVeigh shrine while your there. Because those men know a real patriot when the see it!

 

Talk about ignorant!! So, because somebody cares about the Constitution and their personal freedom you lump them in with the likes of Timothy McVeigh and "rightwing nut jobs?" Nice!! Maybe people are referring to Obama as a socialist because he is a socialist. Take a look at his policies, speeches and ideas for proof. The evidence speaks for itself.

 

Also, how about you take the time to look at the solutions other people present before you start ranting about what is best for the world. Is an all-powerful, dictating government the only way to make the world a better and safer place? Do we need them to run our lives and save us from ourselves? Is that what you truly believe? What's wrong with following the solutions outlined in the Constitution, or is that just too much personal responsibility for you?

 

He could probably use the same argument against you . . . maybe he is calling them right-wing nutjobs because they are right-wing nutjobs. (Not agreeing with him, but your argument works both ways.)

 

Obama's policies might seem terrible to some (I'd include myself in the group of doubters to a large extent) but I hardly think they rise to the level of an all-powerful, dictating government. As far as I know our government is still composed of legally elected officials.

 

So what your saying is, because I believe in the Constitution and individual liberty I should be lumped in with those considered to be right wing nut jobs, even if I don't believe in any of their other wacky ideology? Because that's exactly what he said. If that's not true, your point is moot.

 

And yes, while Obama's policies will definitely lead to unprecedented control by the government and great loss of personal freedom that wasn't the point of what I was saying. What I was referring to was the fact that huskerbob thinks that if we all just bow down to governments control, never question their solutions or policies and come to rely on them for everything from jobs to safety then the world will be a much safer, more prosperous place. I could just imagine that utopia :sarcasm

 

No. I didn't direct that at you personally. I said ". . . maybe he is calling them right-wing nutjobs because they are right-wing nutjobs." I intended this as a retort only to your statement that "maybe people are referring to Obama as a socialist because he is a socialist."

 

These are identical arguments.

 

Also, it's interesting that you defended comparisons of Obama to Hitler (based on his "civilian army," and his "rapid escalation of governmental powers.") and yet you immediately denounce a comparison of yourself to McVeigh even though you both share Libertarian and Constitutionalist tendencies. Can you not see how these arguments are both equally ridiculous? Obama did not killed millions of Jews and you didn't bomb the Oklahoma City building. So let's just agree that both arguments are irrelevant.

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