sarge87 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Canada q2jijuj1ysw Something else interesting..... Quebec: Single Parent Household making.....$35,000 = 59.6% Tax rate combined local and federal tax burden Two Parent Household making........$65,000 = 47.7% Tax rate combined local and federal tax burden California: Single Parent Household making.....$35,000 = 31.25% Tax rate combined local and federal tax burden Two Parent Household making........$65,000 = 34.55% Tax rate combined local and federal tax burden Link to comment
hosker Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 NO BLOOD TESTS!?!?!?! paraphrased, 10:20: "amputated her legs, after having to wait a year for treatment." the only way i'll use "universal healthcare" is if obama, and every politician who supports it, use it first. Link to comment
carlfense Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 NO BLOOD TESTS!?!?!?! paraphrased, 10:20: "amputated her legs, after having to wait a year for treatment." the only way i'll use "universal healthcare" is if obama, and every politician who supports it, use it first. They do use government paid health care . . . I guess you're up next. Link to comment
hosker Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 lol, i must not have been clear enough. because i didn't mean to limit my use/non-use of the program to just that one stipulation..... btw, that stipulation most deff not been met. Link to comment
carlfense Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yeah I know. I was just being obnoxious. I apologize. And socialized/single payer health care worries me as well. Link to comment
The Maudfather Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Wow. I am not so sure about socialized health care, it really seems like a recipe for disaster, especially since the government is going to fund it. Link to comment
huskerjack23 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/not...nich-demolishes Link to comment
SOCALHUSKER Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/not...nich-demolishes David Gratzer is about as pro-free market as both Obama or Paul Krugman. The free market is void of all intervention. You need to realize that before posting an article bashing the free market approach, when instead what Gratzer actually proposes is corporatism/mercantilism. Neither are the work of the free market. Posting Kucinich's blasting of Gratzer's fascist, blathering nonsense doesn't hinder any arguments that "real" free market advocates have about the ill-effects of socialized medicine, if anything it proves them to be even more correct. The problem is the government, not the market. Link to comment
bennychico11 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 And socialized/single payer health care worries me as well. privatized ain't doing much better to ease mine and many others' concerns. http://www.hulu.com/watch/83171/the-daily-...l-15-2009?c=627 Link to comment
carlfense Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 And socialized/single payer health care worries me as well. privatized ain't doing much better to ease mine and many others' concerns. http://www.hulu.com/watch/83171/the-daily-...l-15-2009?c=627 I'm not arguing that it is. I'm saying that the SOMETHING probably needs to change . . . but a taxpayer funded option is not exactly reversible. That's my primary fear . . . we adopt a government option and millions depend on it . . . and then if the governmental system is either horribly inefficient or fails in some other way we are still stuck with it. Rather like our welfare system in that respect. Link to comment
huskerjack23 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/not...nich-demolishes David Gratzer is about as pro-free market as both Obama or Paul Krugman. The free market is void of all intervention. You need to realize that before posting an article bashing the free market approach, when instead what Gratzer actually proposes is corporatism/mercantilism. Neither are the work of the free market. Posting Kucinich's blasting of Gratzer's fascist, blathering nonsense doesn't hinder any arguments that "real" free market advocates have about the ill-effects of socialized medicine, if anything it proves them to be even more correct. The problem is the government, not the market. thanks for putting words in my mouth....again. Link to comment
SOCALHUSKER Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/not...nich-demolishes David Gratzer is about as pro-free market as both Obama or Paul Krugman. The free market is void of all intervention. You need to realize that before posting an article bashing the free market approach, when instead what Gratzer actually proposes is corporatism/mercantilism. Neither are the work of the free market. Posting Kucinich's blasting of Gratzer's fascist, blathering nonsense doesn't hinder any arguments that "real" free market advocates have about the ill-effects of socialized medicine, if anything it proves them to be even more correct. The problem is the government, not the market. thanks for putting words in my mouth....again. You're welcome!! But really, did you have any other intentions but to use that crap to bash on the free market? If so, what?? Also, what's with this...again? Link to comment
SOCALHUSKER Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 And socialized/single payer health care worries me as well. privatized ain't doing much better to ease mine and many others' concerns. http://www.hulu.com/watch/83171/the-daily-...l-15-2009?c=627 What's privatized about an industry burdened with government regulation, licensing and taxes? Link to comment
bennychico11 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 What's privatized about an industry burdened with government regulation, licensing and taxes? so no one should regulate the health care industry? Link to comment
SOCALHUSKER Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 What's privatized about an industry burdened with government regulation, licensing and taxes? so no one should regulate the health care industry? That wasn't the point of my post, but yes, each individual should be allowed to make their own choices and then be held accountable for those choices. Do you have a problem making choices? My point was that you refer to the certain aspects of medical industry as "privatized" when nothing could be further from the truth. I was merely asking what is privatized about our current health care industry? From what I have experienced, read and seen, nothing!! Link to comment
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