[North Alabama Husker]

After seeing Alabama and Nick Saban win the NC this year it has got me wondering why cant we be the same kind of team. Saban is all about the defense and mostly the secondary, much like Bo, Saban is fiery and expects nothing less than perfect exacution, much like Bo, Saban is hard on his assistant coaches, much like Bo, and Saban has a OC that wants to run run run then use play action passing to pick up big chunks of yardage, nothing like what we have. I just don't understand why we think we can't run out of i-formations more often and have to pass the ball to win. If you watch as much football as I do you quickly realize that defense and a good running is the recipe for a national title. Our program is a lot like Alabama except for the fact that they have a lot more in state talent to recruit from. If we could move our offense to more of a running style that relys a lot less on timing and the qb we would have a lot better chance of being even more like bama and win a national title.

[knapplc]

There was some kibbutzing between Saban and Bo prior to the MNC game this year. Scuttlebutt I've heard is that Bo and/or Carl and/or Watson are going to be visiting Alabama during the offseason to have Saban return the favor by sharing info on what he does and how/why it works.

Somewhere buried in the middle of last season Bo talked about Alabama and being like them, so your wishes are probably going to be granted soon.

[ESPY]

There's nothing quite like good ol' smashmouth football. Isn't that how we won all our titles?

Strong defense & running attack a recipe for success? I think so.

[North Alabama Husker]

Man I would be so happy to see that. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall listening to Saban and Bo talk about defense. They have to be the two smartest defensive coachs in college football. I bet the conversation between them about the texas game went like this.
Saban: How did you get so much pressure on Mccoy?
Bo: I put #93 at nose tackle
Saban: How did you disrupt their timing in the passing game?
Bo: I put #93 at nose tackle
Saban: How did you game plan against their running game?
Bo: I put #93 at nose tackle
Saban: You think he could transfer before the NC?

[ESPY]

North Alabama Husker, on 08 February 2010 - 03:30 PM, said:

Man I would be so happy to see that. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall listening to Saban and Bo talk about defense. They have to be the two smartest defensive coachs in college football. I bet the conversation between them about the texas game went like this.
Saban: How did you get so much pressure on Mccoy?
Bo: I put #93 at nose tackle
Saban: How did you disrupt their timing in the passing game?
Bo: I put #93 at nose tackle
Saban: How did you game plan against their running game?
Bo: I put #93 at nose tackle
Saban: You think he could transfer before the NC?

That's deep, real deep.

[Nexus]

I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.

[Hskr86]

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.

I have to plead some ignorance on this topic... why would coaches share their secrets? I know it happens, but I just don't really understand it (?)

[ESPY]

Change industries and you'd see this sharing of "secrets" in the form of an open forum among competitors. IMO it's just best practice to consult with those who can help you perform at a higher level.

[Landlord of Memorial Stadium]

Is the OP implying that we can't, in fact, be like Bama?


There isn't any reason why we can't, and we are on our way.

[Nexus]

Hskr86, on 08 February 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.

I have to plead some ignorance on this topic... why would coaches share their secrets? I know it happens, but I just don't really understand it (?)

Not necessarily secrets. Just sharing basic game planning methods, etc. You have to remember that college coaching is like a fraternity organization. They have conventions, seminars, etc. So a lot of information is being shared throughout.

[huKSer]

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 04:07 PM, said:

Hskr86, on 08 February 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.

I have to plead some ignorance on this topic... why would coaches share their secrets? I know it happens, but I just don't really understand it (?)

Not necessarily secrets. Just sharing basic game planning methods, etc. You have to remember that college coaching is like a fraternity organization. They have conventions, seminars, etc. So a lot of information is being shared throughout.

TO actually went to Delaware in the 1980s. They were running some sort of single wing and he wanted to get R. Craig and Rozier (I think) in the backfield together.

[knapplc]

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 04:07 PM, said:

Hskr86, on 08 February 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.

I have to plead some ignorance on this topic... why would coaches share their secrets? I know it happens, but I just don't really understand it (?)

Not necessarily secrets. Just sharing basic game planning methods, etc. You have to remember that college coaching is like a fraternity organization. They have conventions, seminars, etc. So a lot of information is being shared throughout.

Yep, this is true. And coaches by and large aren't crazy secretive. They talk about their methods and their coaching ideas all the time in the press, on their weekly shows, etc. I'm sure there are some things they keep secret for that "edge" but for the most part they're pretty open with each other.

There was a regular parade of coaches in and out of Boyd Epley's weight rooms all throughout the 80s when Husker Power came into vogue. Osborne had no qualms about sharing training info.

[Hskr86]

ESPY, on 08 February 2010 - 04:03 PM, said:

Change industries and you'd see this sharing of "secrets" in the form of an open forum among competitors. IMO it's just best practice to consult with those who can help you perform at a higher level.

Ya, I can fully understand it being a best practice if you're 'seeking' the help, and within any larger profession. However, I scratch my head somewhat, when translating to the coaching of top programs... an increasingly cut-throat enterprise. Asking for, and getting, key professional-assistance that just may come back to haunt the 'teacher', is something that I think would be far more probable in this instance. I 'spose it has far more to do with the fraternity of coaching at this level... which I admittedly don't belong to.

[irafreak]

Why was the original post given a negative? It was his opinion and there was nothing inappropriate in it. But I think coaches don't mind bragging a little about their success strategies.

[Hskr86]

irafreak, on 08 February 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

Why was the original post given a negative? It was his opinion and there was nothing inappropriate in it. But I think coaches don't mind bragging a little about their success strategies.

not a negative post at all... just the 'wonder' about the coaches themselves

[irafreak]

Are you saying you gave it a minus 1 because of the "wonder" of the coaches? I'm confused?

[Hskr86]

irafreak, on 08 February 2010 - 04:31 PM, said:

Are you saying you gave it a minus 1 because of the "wonder" of the coaches? I'm confused?

ya, I'm being confusing... admittedly. I agree with the OP, and am looking forward to all that is being talked about in terms of re-crafting power football. With the coaching, I'm just trying to turn it around in my own mind - what would motivate Bo and Carl, for instance, to share what they've learned/crafted to defeat the spread offenses?... it's been answered by all the guys talking about information sharing, visiting, etc.

[Landlord of Memorial Stadium]

irafreak, on 08 February 2010 - 04:31 PM, said:

Are you saying you gave it a minus 1 because of the "wonder" of the coaches? I'm confused?

Are you saying you are confused? Or are you asking us if you are confused?

[junior4949]

Hskr86, on 08 February 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.

I have to plead some ignorance on this topic... why would coaches share their secrets? I know it happens, but I just don't really understand it (?)

It's really quite similar to any other industry. Sales staff from competing businesses share secrets and information. There was a local high school football coach around here that was willing to give his playbook to any team's coach they played. His mentality was that if his team executed the play correctly that the opposing team wouldn't be able to stop it even if they knew it was coming. More often than not, the difference between a good defense and a great defense is execution. I think more times than not, coaches exchange ideas in terms of philosophy rather than simply handing someone their playbook.

[Hunter94]

anyone can simply watch game film and quickly see what play calling techniques are being employed, it isn't rocket science.

[NoKoolAidForME]

Hskr86, on 08 February 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

irafreak, on 08 February 2010 - 04:31 PM, said:

Are you saying you gave it a minus 1 because of the "wonder" of the coaches? I'm confused?

ya, I'm being confusing... admittedly. I agree with the OP, and am looking forward to all that is being talked about in terms of re-crafting power football. With the coaching, I'm just trying to turn it around in my own mind - what would motivate Bo and Carl, for instance, to share what they've learned/crafted to defeat the spread offenses?... it's been answered by all the guys talking about information sharing, visiting, etc.

The SEC has had no problem dealing with the Big 12 Spread offense. I think the only one for the Big 12 in a long time was OSU vs UGA. On a side note I have credible sources that there was a friendly visit in Lincoln just to catch up between Stoops and Pelini before the TX game. (No rule against it just saying)

[walksalone]

North Alabama Husker, on 08 February 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

After seeing Alabama and Nick Saban win the NC this year it has got me wondering why cant we be the same kind of team. Saban is all about the defense and mostly the secondary, much like Bo, Saban is fiery and expects nothing less than perfect exacution, much like Bo, Saban is hard on his assistant coaches, much like Bo, and Saban has a OC that wants to run run run then use play action passing to pick up big chunks of yardage, nothing like what we have. I just don't understand why we think we can't run out of i-formations more often and have to pass the ball to win. If you watch as much football as I do you quickly realize that defense and a good running is the recipe for a national title. Our program is a lot like Alabama except for the fact that they have a lot more in state talent to recruit from. If we could move our offense to more of a running style that relys a lot less on timing and the qb we would have a lot better chance of being even more like bama and win a national title.

We can't, don't, or won't ever be like Bama...

Because we are Nebraska

[HUSKER 37]

Landlord of Memorial Stadium, on 08 February 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is the OP implying that we can't, in fact, be like Bama?


There isn't any reason why we can't, and we are on our way.

I sure hope we don't have to start talking funny like them.

[jnkyrdoff6]

ESPY, on 08 February 2010 - 03:30 PM, said:

There's nothing quite like good ol' smashmouth football. Isn't that how we won all our titles?

Strong defense & running attack a recipe for success? I think so.

I think everyone is going to get their wish because:

a) the type of QBs we're getting

The style of offense we ran in the Holiday bowl.

It was obvious that our best offensive players were Burkhead and Helu. I loved seeing them in the game at the same time, and seeing us running the Wildcat with Burkhead. I think Watson pry realized this early on, he just didn't have time to completely change the system mid-season, but with a couple weeks of prep he showed us a glimpse of the future.

[North Alabama Husker]

I don't want nebraska to be alabama at any time except on the field. Our fans and tradition are just fine the way they are I was just saying I like the way alabama plays smash mouth football.

walksalone, on 08 February 2010 - 09:08 PM, said:

North Alabama Husker, on 08 February 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

After seeing Alabama and Nick Saban win the NC this year it has got me wondering why cant we be the same kind of team. Saban is all about the defense and mostly the secondary, much like Bo, Saban is fiery and expects nothing less than perfect exacution, much like Bo, Saban is hard on his assistant coaches, much like Bo, and Saban has a OC that wants to run run run then use play action passing to pick up big chunks of yardage, nothing like what we have. I just don't understand why we think we can't run out of i-formations more often and have to pass the ball to win. If you watch as much football as I do you quickly realize that defense and a good running is the recipe for a national title. Our program is a lot like Alabama except for the fact that they have a lot more in state talent to recruit from. If we could move our offense to more of a running style that relys a lot less on timing and the qb we would have a lot better chance of being even more like bama and win a national title.

We can't, don't, or won't ever be like Bama...

Because we are Nebraska

[bshirt]

North Alabama Husker, on 08 February 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

After seeing Alabama and Nick Saban win the NC this year it has got me wondering why cant we be the same kind of team. Saban is all about the defense and mostly the secondary, much like Bo, Saban is fiery and expects nothing less than perfect exacution, much like Bo, Saban is hard on his assistant coaches, much like Bo, and Saban has a OC that wants to run run run then use play action passing to pick up big chunks of yardage, nothing like what we have. I just don't understand why we think we can't run out of i-formations more often and have to pass the ball to win. If you watch as much football as I do you quickly realize that defense and a good running is the recipe for a national title. Our program is a lot like Alabama except for the fact that they have a lot more in state talent to recruit from. If we could move our offense to more of a running style that relys a lot less on timing and the qb we would have a lot better chance of being even more like bama and win a national title.

Sadly, a big percentage of HuskerNation wants us to "pretend" we can win big here in the midwest with fluffball. They were deliriously happy when Callahan came in to "modernize" our offense. Oh, it looked great vs the creampuffs but was repeatably stuffed like sardines vs any decent defense.

But we got boatloads of garbage yards and points when down 4 or 5 TDs and it made our offensive stats look great! All the losing got to be too much though and they had to grudgingly conceed their "NFL genius" had to go.

We can only hope Bo realizes the only way NU returns to premier status is when we recruit and develop vicious road grader OLinemen with the will to pancake defenses. When we have that with Bo's defense, we'll be "back" in a big, big way. Let sCUm have SW back and let's return to our true destiny of steamrolling people.

[Blackshirtsguru]

knapplc, on 08 February 2010 - 03:16 PM, said:

There was some kibbutzing between Saban and Bo prior to the MNC game this year. Scuttlebutt I've heard is that Bo and/or Carl and/or Watson are going to be visiting Alabama during the offseason to have Saban return the favor by sharing info on what he does and how/why it works.

Somewhere buried in the middle of last season Bo talked about Alabama and being like them, so your wishes are probably going to be granted soon.

I remember when Osborne and McBride flew down to FSU to to give Bowden and Andrews pointers about stopping the option. The following year we ended up playing FSU (1994) for a title.

[NoKoolAidForME]

HUSKER 37, on 08 February 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:

Landlord of Memorial Stadium, on 08 February 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is the OP implying that we can't, in fact, be like Bama?


There isn't any reason why we can't, and we are on our way.

I sure hope we don't have to start talking funny like them.

If you guys ever get a chance I suggest listening to the Paul Finebaum show. I know I often accuse people of drinking to much Kool-Aid; BUT WOW!!!!!. That show is absolutely hilarious.

[killer cacti]

Because the Huskers wear white helmets with a red stripe and an N on the side.

[hskrpwr13]

Interesting thread topic. I remember when others used to question why they couldn't be like Nebraska.

[North Alabama Husker]

NoKoolAidForME, on 09 February 2010 - 09:36 AM, said:

HUSKER 37, on 08 February 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:

Landlord of Memorial Stadium, on 08 February 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is the OP implying that we can't, in fact, be like Bama?


There isn't any reason why we can't, and we are on our way.

I sure hope we don't have to start talking funny like them.

If you guys ever get a chance I suggest listening to the Paul Finebaum show. I know I often accuse people of drinking to much Kool-Aid; BUT WOW!!!!!. That show is absolutely hilarious.

I listen to Finebaum everyday and have actually called in about this. Finebaum is a huge fan of Bo Pelini. I have met Paul he is just as much of a card in real life as he is on the radio. If yall have never heard the show they talk about the Alabama Auburn rivalry everyday and it is halarious to hear the rednecks argue back and forth. It's fun to call in and say the Big 12 is better than the SEC. Everytime I do that it starts two hours worth of phone calls of people calling me an idiot.

[junior4949]

The state of Alabama produced 90 D1 football recruits. The state of Nebraska produced 6 D1 football recruits. The reason we can't be like Alabama is the same reason we can't be like Texas, Florida, or USC. Besides, being unique is way cooler than being like Ala friggin Bama.

[NoKoolAidForME]

North Alabama Husker, on 09 February 2010 - 11:10 AM, said:

NoKoolAidForME, on 09 February 2010 - 09:36 AM, said:

HUSKER 37, on 08 February 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:

Landlord of Memorial Stadium, on 08 February 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is the OP implying that we can't, in fact, be like Bama?


There isn't any reason why we can't, and we are on our way.

I sure hope we don't have to start talking funny like them.

If you guys ever get a chance I suggest listening to the Paul Finebaum show. I know I often accuse people of drinking to much Kool-Aid; BUT WOW!!!!!. That show is absolutely hilarious.

I listen to Finebaum everyday and have actually called in about this. Finebaum is a huge fan of Bo Pelini. I have met Paul he is just as much of a card in real life as he is on the radio. If yall have never heard the show they talk about the Alabama Auburn rivalry everyday and it is halarious to hear the rednecks argue back and forth. It's fun to call in and say the Big 12 is better than the SEC. Every time I do that it starts two hours worth of phone calls of people calling me an idiot.

I found out about him because one of the guys on my team was from AL. We once played a drinking game on a Feb snow day and drank every time a caller said Bear Bryant. Made for a rough night.

[North Alabama Husker]

junior4949, on 09 February 2010 - 11:19 AM, said:

The state of Alabama produced 90 D1 football recruits. The state of Nebraska produced 6 D1 football recruits. The reason we can't be like Alabama is the same reason we can't be like Texas, Florida, or USC. Besides, being unique is way cooler than being like Ala friggin Bama.

A lot of their players do come from Alabama but they also pull recruits from other places. Mark Ingram is from Michigan. I live in Alabama and get to watch a lot of really good high school football but not all of their players are from Alabama. It would be nice if we could pick up heavy hitters from other states like they do as well. Our tradition is ten times cooler though and our fans our are a lot better. I have been to tailgates at Nebraska where there were Iowa state fans or Kansas Fans at Bama if you are wearing the other teams colors you are yelled at the entire time you are in town. I only want to win like bama not be bama.

[junior4949]

I guess it all depends on your definition of tradition, but Alabama is credited with winning 13 NC to Nebraska's 5. My point with the number of D1 recruits coming from each state was we have to get the MAJORITY of our recruits from other states rather than getting a lot of our players from our own state like Alabama does. I would set my sights a little higher than Alabama with regards to winning like them. If history has taught us anything, Saban won't likely be in Alabama in say 3 to 5 years. I'd set my sights on winning like Texas or Oklahoma. Mack will retire from Texas and typically wins 10 games or more every season. Stoops may very well retire from OU, and they've won the majority of the Big 12 Championships. I do agree that from a team's perspective we need to play like Alabama with regards to a strong D and a power running offense. We need to face the realities that we're not going to be getting many/any pro type throwing QB's any time soon.

[Enhance89]

Hskr86, on 08 February 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Nexus, on 08 February 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.

I have to plead some ignorance on this topic... why would coaches share their secrets? I know it happens, but I just don't really understand it (?)

I don't believe coaches really share EVERYTHING that they like to do. If there are benefits for both sides, why not converse?

If Saban did in fact contact BP, he probably did it so he could learn how to shut down Texas as well as we did. Bo then begins to think "Well, my offense is struggling and Saban seems to be doing the kind of stuff I like to do.", so Bo says that he'll help Saban defensively if he can get some offensive insight.

I don't think they both went into a dark film room for a couple of hours for this. They probably just had some conversations that went over basic scheme and game plan ideas.

What could it hurt? Alabama and Nebraska don't player each other each year, and Bo gets the better deal. What Bo did to attack Texas isn't what he would do to attack Alabama. Yet if Nebraska and Alabama ever played, Bo would have a pretty good idea of what Saban likes to do.

[jnkyrdoff6]

NoKoolAidForME, on 09 February 2010 - 09:36 AM, said:

HUSKER 37, on 08 February 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:

Landlord of Memorial Stadium, on 08 February 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is the OP implying that we can't, in fact, be like Bama?


There isn't any reason why we can't, and we are on our way.

I sure hope we don't have to start talking funny like them.

If you guys ever get a chance I suggest listening to the Paul Finebaum show. I know I often accuse people of drinking to much Kool-Aid; BUT WOW!!!!!. That show is absolutely hilarious.

Thanks for turning me on to it. It sounds pretty cool.

[ESPY]

hskrpwr13, on 09 February 2010 - 10:51 AM, said:

Interesting thread topic. I remember when others used to question why they couldn't be like Nebraska.

Don't worry, that time is coming again soon

[ESPY]

Blackshirtsguru, on 09 February 2010 - 09:07 AM, said:

knapplc, on 08 February 2010 - 03:16 PM, said:

There was some kibbutzing between Saban and Bo prior to the MNC game this year. Scuttlebutt I've heard is that Bo and/or Carl and/or Watson are going to be visiting Alabama during the offseason to have Saban return the favor by sharing info on what he does and how/why it works.

Somewhere buried in the middle of last season Bo talked about Alabama and being like them, so your wishes are probably going to be granted soon.

I remember when Osborne and McBride flew down to FSU to to give Bowden and Andrews pointers about stopping the option. The following year we ended up playing FSU (1994) for a title.

Minus all the strange mystery calls in that game & that was ultimately the difference. Although I doubt TO & McBride flew back to Lincoln without any new knowledge about FSU (you scratch my back...)

[Bo-Nose]

The main difference is that Nick Saban is a better recruiter, and has proven he can win national championships. Bo hasn't proven anything (yet) as a head coach. Alabama also borders Florida, which is where they get lot of their players. Not many kids from Florida would want to go as far north as Nebraska.

The main difference is that Alabama is willing to spend record amounts of cash on awesome coaches, assistants, facilities, and all other aspects of the game, and Nebraska isn't willing to pay near as much. Nebraska also has higher academic standards than Alabama, which keeps a lot of quality athletes out in my opinion.

[ESPY]

Just curious - is there actually proof that Nebraska has higher academic standards than Alabama? Or is this just a blind assumption that the best athletes are among the worst in the classroom? I mean let's be fair with a statement like that.

[Bo-Nose]

ESPY, on 09 February 2010 - 04:33 PM, said:

Just curious - is there actually proof that Nebraska has higher academic standards than Alabama? Or is this just a blind assumption that the best athletes are among the worst in the classroom? I mean let's be fair with a statement like that.

That is a fair statement in my opinion. The SEC has the lowest academic requirements of all the major conferences and they certainly are the most dominant.

[hskerprid]

For NU to be like Bama does that mean that we have to go on probation and be under NCAA investigation numerous times??

[Bo-Nose]

hskerprid, on 09 February 2010 - 05:43 PM, said:

For NU to be like Bama does that mean that we have to go on probation and be under NCAA investigation numerous times??

Doesn't seem to have held them back too much.

[bhamHusker]

NoKoolAidForME, on 09 February 2010 - 09:36 AM, said:

HUSKER 37, on 08 February 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:

Landlord of Memorial Stadium, on 08 February 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

Is the OP implying that we can't, in fact, be like Bama?


There isn't any reason why we can't, and we are on our way.

I sure hope we don't have to start talking funny like them.

If you guys ever get a chance I suggest listening to the Paul Finebaum show. I know I often accuse people of drinking to much Kool-Aid; BUT WOW!!!!!. That show is absolutely hilarious.

re husker37: I've lived in Birmingham for a long time now, and I'm still not used to the way they talk around here. I still have to ask people to repeat themselves all too often.

re NoKoolAidForMe: Finebaum is a really great radio host, and a good writer as well. He's a great interviewer and his show is at its best when the callers aren't involved. The redneck callers are good for a few laughs, but they get on my nerves after more than 10 or 15 minutes hah.

[North Alabama Husker]

Bo-Nose, on 09 February 2010 - 04:23 PM, said:

The main difference is that Nick Saban is a better recruiter, and has proven he can win national championships. Bo hasn't proven anything (yet) as a head coach. Alabama also borders Florida, which is where they get lot of their players. Not many kids from Florida would want to go as far north as Nebraska.

The main difference is that Alabama is willing to spend record amounts of cash on awesome coaches, assistants, facilities, and all other aspects of the game, and Nebraska isn't willing to pay near as much. Nebraska also has higher academic standards than Alabama, which keeps a lot of quality athletes out in my opinion.

As far as facilities go I have a buddy that works for Alabama. He takes all the recruits on their tours around the stadium and other facilities. He told me this a couple years ago but I'm fairly positive it is still true that he has to tell all of them that they have the second biggest weight room in the country and that it is like three cubic feet smaller than NEBRASKA'S. I have been to about three games at Bryant-Denney Stadium and it is no where near as nice as Memorial stadium. Plus their fans only get excited for big games and other wise sit in their seat and stay quiet. Check out the thread about which schools are worth more money according to Forbes. We rank one spot above Alabama and could pay the coachs more money if they earn it. As you said Saban has a proven track record and I beleive he deserves every dollar he gets but if Bo and his assistants win they will get paid.

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North Alabama Husker, on 09 February 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:

Bo-Nose, on 09 February 2010 - 04:23 PM, said:

The main difference is that Nick Saban is a better recruiter, and has proven he can win national championships. Bo hasn't proven anything (yet) as a head coach. Alabama also borders Florida, which is where they get lot of their players. Not many kids from Florida would want to go as far north as Nebraska.

The main difference is that Alabama is willing to spend record amounts of cash on awesome coaches, assistants, facilities, and all other aspects of the game, and Nebraska isn't willing to pay near as much. Nebraska also has higher academic standards than Alabama, which keeps a lot of quality athletes out in my opinion.

As far as facilities go I have a buddy that works for Alabama. He takes all the recruits on their tours around the stadium and other facilities. He told me this a couple years ago but I'm fairly positive it is still true that he has to tell all of them that they have the second biggest weight room in the country and that it is like three cubic feet smaller than NEBRASKA'S. I have been to about three games at Bryant-Denney Stadium and it is no where near as nice as Memorial stadium. Plus their fans only get excited for big games and other wise sit in their seat and stay quiet. Check out the thread about which schools are worth more money according to Forbes. We rank one spot above Alabama and could pay the coachs more money if they earn it. As you said Saban has a proven track record and I beleive he deserves every dollar he gets but if Bo and his assistants win they will get paid.

True. If Bo can prove to be as good as Saban then we can be "like" Alabama. But until then I don't think it's a very good comparison.