Longhorn Network

[Husker_Power]

Moving a Big 12 game to the Longhorn Network will cause quite the uproar this season. Depending on the opponent, it could be a firestorm. If it’s, say, Oklahoma State or Texas Tech, that means fans of the Cowboys or the Red Raiders possibly could have to subscribe to the Longhorn Network to see the game.

 

Link: http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2011/07/07/big-12-football-espn-fox-collusion-troubling/

[Treand3]

Moving a Big 12 game to the Longhorn Network will cause quite the uproar this season. Depending on the opponent, it could be a firestorm. If it’s, say, Oklahoma State or Texas Tech, that means fans of the Cowboys or the Red Raiders possibly could have to subscribe to the Longhorn Network to see the game.

 

Link: http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2011/07/07/big-12-football-espn-fox-collusion-troubling/

 

Another prime example of why we left. I know I'm probably beating a dead horse but anyone who thinks we left because of our troubles on the playing field or because we couldn't 'get our way' with Big 12 related issues are idiotic.

[FDLink]

The best parts are these quotes, from Tramel himself:

 

On both sides of the Platte, a million Nebraska fans are smiling, and this time, you can’t call them crazy.

Commentary: how can we be called crazy in the first place if we were right all along?

 

Just what Nebraska warned could happen is happening. The Texas network is causing all kinds of problems.

Granted, Tramel is a shameless flip-flopper (one day he's lamenting Nebraska's loss, the next he's cursing their "betrayal.") but there is some small vindication to be had in reading this. Also, I should say that I don't condone trolling on the part of Nebraska fans, but there is the occasional piece of gold to be found-- like this zinger:

 

Note to the nine little sisters in the Big Texas Conference…you reap what you sow. Here comes the harvest.

[WYHusk]

Well, little sisters of the little 12, how are all those 11-1 votes against NU looking now?

 

Never doubt karma, my friends.

 

http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2011/07/07/big-12-football-espn-fox-collusion-troubling/

[The Dude]

Just what Nebraska warned could happen is happening.

Wait... Tramel said this? The f*_king universe is unravelling.

[Bradr]

So what exactly does this boil down to?

 

FOX swapped a game with ESPN who will then place the game on the Longhorn Network? And by doing so the FOX revenues that would have gone to the opposing team of the unnamed game will now go to Texas and the Longhorn Network???

[Machine from 8MM]

Tramel ignored a lot of facts:

 

http://cfbmeltdown.blogspot.com/2011/07/berry-tramel-is-ing-idiot.html

[huskersrule95]

[walksalone]

Some of the comments are freakin' priceless....

 

As a Texas Tech fan, it makes me ill to think that we would have to play on the Longhorn Network; however, it will be extra sweet when we kick their tails in DKR’s house, on their own network.

 

One of the comments in there

I hope the Sooner Network gets done soon and better

, is just as frightening. Imagine the Longhorn and Sooner Networks fighting it out.

[NebraskaShellback]

[redblooded]

Tramel ignored a lot of facts:

 

http://cfbmeltdown.blogspot.com/2011/07/berry-tramel-is-ing-idiot.html

 

God I can't believe I am about to defend Tramel, but here goes. This is a completely moronic blog post that doesn't address any of that Tramel took issue with. Whoever wrote it fails at reading comprehension.

 

Yeah there was a race to start school networks between Nebraska, Texas, and Oklahoma. That isn't the issue.

 

We all figured NU, OU, and TX would have their own networks. That those networks programming would be limited to the one or two would-have-been-PPV non-conference games that didn't make it on other networks at most in football, host the coaches shows, have a few non-con basketball games, baseball and tons of olympic sports. Then fill the rest of the 350 odd days of the year with reruns and stupid list shows.

 

We figured that's about as far as it'd get. They'd be worth having only if you were a fan of that particular school.

 

This changed that quite a bit. It forces one lucky non-Texas fan-base to have to subscribe and tune into the Longhorn Network for one of their games. If you think Nebraska or OU networks would've had/will have the underwriting of ESPN to help pull strings on getting a conference game on their network too, you're dreaming.

 

So congrats to the lucky big 12 fan-base who gets to watch a game with Texas announcers while knowing that with ESPN's help Texas just found a way to side-step the conference money distribution pool and force opposing fans to help subsidize its network.

 

*It probably also says that ESPN made a huge investment and in order to make it less of a long-term loss they had to give up an upper tier game for a lower tier game which they can throw on it to actually try to get cable companies to buy that crap because it isn't selling, even in Texas.

 

How moronic does the last year of big12 propaganda painting Texas as the benevolent leader of the big 12 read now?

[Machine from 8MM]

"We all figured NU, OU, and TX would have their own networks. That those networks programming would be limited to the one or two would-have-been-PPV non-conference games that didn't make it on other networks at most in football"

 

So, your argument against that blog post is that Texas violated some hard and fast rule that existed in your mind about how a single school network should be run?!? Wow.....and don't think for a second Nebraska wouldn't have tried to maximize revenue/viewership in every way possible if the Huskers had come out with their own network. These are some very smart men running Nebraska athletics.

 

Also, Tramel's whole point is that Nebraska "warned" everyone about what was coming with the Longhorn network and left because of it BUT your point is that the Longhorn Network is doing something unexpected. Is Tramel right? Did Nebraska anticipate this? Either Tramel is very wrong in his point or you are very wrong in yours.....which is it?

[strigori]

Whats different is that everyone assumed it would be a low level non-conference game, like a 1-AA opponent, not a conference game.

[redblooded]

So, your argument against that blog post is that Texas violated some hard and fast rule that existed in your mind about how a single school network should be run?!? Wow.....and don't think for a second Nebraska wouldn't have tried to maximize revenue/viewership in every way possible if the Huskers had come out with their own network. These are some very smart men running Nebraska athletics.

 

So I take it you were the blog writer? because that is not what my argument was at all. My argument with that blog post, besides it sounding like an incoherent rant from a teenager, was that it completely misunderstood and misrepresented what Tramel was saying. It wasn't because Tramel didn't say it well enough, but because the person writing that blog took it as a literal "Nebraska warned us about the Longhorn network" and not what I answer the next quote with below.

 

Also, Tramel's whole point is that Nebraska "warned" everyone about what was coming with the Longhorn network and left because of it BUT your point is that the Longhorn Network is doing something unexpected. Is Tramel right? Did Nebraska anticipate this? Either Tramel is very wrong in his point or you are very wrong in yours.....which is it?

 

No his point was that Nebraska warned about the Texas centric swing of the league and Texas getting ESPN to trade a conference television game to help launch Texas's new network is the start of what Nebraska had been warning about coming to pass. It is Texas indirectly using the clout it has through its partnership with ESPN to use the entire league for its own benefit and it's benefit alone.

[Machine from 8MM]

"No his point was that Nebraska warned about the Texas centric swing"

 

What does this even mean? I'd like you to name one important conference vote (revenue sharing, use of partial qualifiers, location of conference HQ, location of conference title game, etc.) where EVERY SINGLE TEAM (except for Nebraska) didn't vote EXACTLY THE SAME as Texas. When the rest of the conference acts in unanimity, why is that called a "Texas centric swing" ?

 

Also, how can you say the blog writer took it too literally as "Nebraska warned us about the Longhorn network." That was EXACTLY what Tramel said. Here is Tramel's direct quote:

 

"Just what Nebraska warned could happen is happening. The Texas network is causing all kinds of problems."

 

You are kind of all over the map here. I think there is a big disconnect between what Tramel actually said and what your emotions make you think about the situation.