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grandpasknee    675

Go ahead and pile on if I'm just being an idiot, but what happened to Tommy Armstrong? Did he redshirt? Is he injured? Is he in jail somewhere? Is Bo angry with him? I thought it was a neck and neck tie for him and Kellogg III to be the number 2 and that he was pushing Taylor Martinez for the start?

 

Did someone put a mickey in my Kool-aide? What am I missing here?

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krc1995    484

IMO redshirting is the only option unless Tmart gets hurt. Even pulling it then might depend on where we are at in the season and our record

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knapplc    17,788

My guess is Armstrong's redshirt possibilities were directly affected by Stanton's knee injury last night. Our ace in the hole just turned into a wildcard.

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HuskerThor    148

My guess is Armstrong's redshirt possibilities were directly affected by Stanton's knee injury last night. Our ace in the hole just turned into a wildcard.

Torn ACL and out for the season.

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Count 'Bility    4,782

My guess is Armstrong's redshirt possibilities were directly affected by Stanton's knee injury last night. Our ace in the hole just turned into a wildcard.

My guess is Armstrong's redshirt possibilities were directly affected by Stanton's knee injury last night. Our ace in the hole just turned into a wildcard.

Torn ACL and out for the season.

 

:facepalm:

 

What the hell is going on? I give up on life. I'm dun.

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grandpasknee    675

Thanks gang..I hadn't seen anything about it and was wondering. I agree..if we can carry the load without him, good idea to keep him in the cupboard. Was really good to see so many guys on the field today. Kind of had that old school feeling. You just can't beat getting quality playing time for 2nd and 3rd team and younger players, even if it is against weaker opponents. Practice snaps against our 2nd or 3rds might be tougher than snaps against Idaho State, but you can't replicate game snaps in practice. THAT builds championship teams, IMHO.

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The Dude    6,469

My guess is Armstrong's redshirt possibilities were directly affected by Stanton's knee injury last night. Our ace in the hole just turned into a wildcard.

Certainly agree.

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T_O_Bull    394

Redshirt, please.

Redshirt, please.

Redshirt, please.

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Redshirt, please.

Redshirt, please.

Redshirt, please.

Redshirt, please.

T_O_B

G>B>R

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BIG ERN    857

I like Martinez, but I love Armstrong. Can't miss baller...Stanton doesn't hang with this kid.

Probably not with one leg, no.

 

Ha either way Armstrong will be our best QB since Crouch (bold I know).

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thats very bold to say since T-Mart has turned into a legit dual threat qb who is probably going to own just about every Nebraska Qb record when he leaves, I think Armstrong will be good, but I also think when we look back in 10 years and compare him to T-Mart we will see that Armstrong will have had a better more talented team around him at the start then T-Mart had.

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irieboy8    251

i feel carnes has a lot of talent and definetly needs to be out there more once he gets his feet wet at WR.... a lot of talent to waste.....

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Fuzzy    104

Armstrong wears #4. I've seen him almost every game signaling in plays with a headset on. He is always suited up. But pretty sure he is redshirted.

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Peoriahusker    63
Go ahead and pile on if I'm just being an idiot, but what happened to Tommy Armstrong? Did he redshirt? Is he injured? Is he in jail somewhere? Is Bo angry with him? I thought it was a neck and neck tie for him and Kellogg III to be the number 2 and that he was pushing Taylor Martinez for the start?

 

Did someone put a mickey in my Kool-aide? What am I missing here?

 

He was never pushing Martinez for the start.

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akita    59

I like Martinez, but I love Armstrong. Can't miss baller...Stanton doesn't hang with this kid.

Probably not with one leg, no.

 

Ha either way Armstrong will be our best QB since Crouch (bold I know).

I hope you are right big ern. I watched the kid live last year a few games and Yes I know he threw only one interception, but I am still holding back on Tony Armstrong.

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tmfr15    262

No worries about Mr. Stanton. If he comes in and competes hard in rehab and the weight room, he will be right where he needs to be going into the fall of 2012, and then another year of work before battling against Mr. Armstrong for the starting nod.

 

Competition is good. And ACLs heal a lot better/faster than they used to heal.

 

Also not ruling the possibility that we recruit some absolute STUD in the 2014 recruiting class that ends up beating out both those guys.

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Minnesota_husker    1,172

He will redshirt.

 

 

In other news: Taylor Martinez>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy Armstrong.

 

Seems like some people were hinting Tommy might be a better option next year....

 

 

Taylor is a 4 year starter.. and will finish with some excellent stats.

 

 

I am a T-magic supporter....

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BIGREDIOWAN    1,881

Armstrong will be a good one, but I'm enjoying the ride that we're on with T-Magic right now. He's getting better and better and come his Senior year it might be scary if he continues to put the work in on his throwing motion.

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Undone    396

Here's my take on Tommy: He needs to look at the sheer amount of work Taylor has put into getting to where he's at now. A three year starter can only improve, that much is obvious. But he has worked really, really hard to improve his game.

 

If Tommy works that hard, combining that with what we've seen of his high school film could add up to him being a star.

 

In the meantime, it's going to be an awesome build up for us offensively with a senior Taylor next year. With Abdullah, Heard, Cross, Bell, Enumwa, Westerkamp...if our line holds up and just improves bit by bit, no doubt the best offense in the B1G.

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Comish    362

Not to pick nits...............And I am a big supporter of TMart..............but am just a little concerned about some signs of reverting under pressure (UCLA for sure), but a couple of footwork flaws since. The only reason I mention this is because it looks like he is better when he has time, but it's not muscle memory yet. Hopefully, he continues to improve until it is second nature.

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bshirt    232

Go ahead and pile on if I'm just being an idiot, but what happened to Tommy Armstrong? Did he redshirt? Is he injured? Is he in jail somewhere? Is Bo angry with him? I thought it was a neck and neck tie for him and Kellogg III to be the number 2 and that he was pushing Taylor Martinez for the start?

 

Did someone put a mickey in my Kool-aide? What am I missing here?

 

Pushing Tmart to start? Really?

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Not to pick nits...............And I am a big supporter of TMart..............but am just a little concerned about some signs of reverting under pressure (UCLA for sure), but a couple of footwork flaws since. The only reason I mention this is because it looks like he is better when he has time, but it's not muscle memory yet. Hopefully, he continues to improve until it is second nature.

Beck can't get brain lock either! When it gets tense, our OC needs to stay the course and not turn every play into a hail Mary! Beck needs to get on the phone with Taylor and give some reassurance. Say "we got this" and then call some manageable throws or your best QB run to let Taylor get his mind off the situation!

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I love that Carnes got some PT. Love that kids dedication to the team.

I've heard that he is not all that your making him out to be. Sure, he has dedication, but from the quips I've heard from players, not many teams would want him. He cant catch the ball, he cant play QB, and basically stands around at practice.

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dubsker    62

I don't mean to hijack, but what's the deal with Carnes then? I didn't expect to see RK3 over Carnes but I missed a lot of Husker news over the summer, and I'm hearing that Armstrong is co #2 and Brion is playing WR.

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B.B. Hemingway    1,463

My guess is Armstrong's redshirt possibilities were directly affected by Stanton's knee injury last night. Our ace in the hole just turned into a wildcard.

Certainly agree.

 

Was Stanton an ace in the hole?

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HuskerShark    867

I don't mean to hijack, but what's the deal with Carnes then? I didn't expect to see RK3 over Carnes but I missed a lot of Husker news over the summer, and I'm hearing that Armstrong is co #2 and Brion is playing WR.

 

You would be correct. Armstrong is co #2 with Kellogg but we all think that they will redshirt Armstrong barring something catastrophic happening.

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Mavric    9,128

But you have to admit that if a major injury happens to Tmart I seriously doubt Kellogg will be the starter

Disagree! I think our staff has alot of confidence in RK3!

As someone else said, depends on the situation.

 

If it's next game, would be a tough choice.

 

If it's the third quarter against Iowa and we're 8-3, RK3 without a doubt.

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HuskerShark    867

But you have to admit that if a major injury happens to Tmart I seriously doubt Kellogg will be the starter

Disagree! I think our staff has alot of confidence in RK3!

As someone else said, depends on the situation.

 

If it's next game, would be a tough choice.

 

If it's the third quarter against Iowa and we're 8-3, RK3 without a doubt.

 

I don't have any idea what they would actually do, but I really hope if that situation comes along, that they give RK3 every chance in the world to be the starter the rest of the season. No need to burn Armstrong's redshirt unless RK3 can't get it done.

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The Maudfather    956

He will redshirt.

 

 

In other news: Taylor Martinez>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tommy Armstrong.

 

Seems like some people were hinting Tommy might be a better option next year....

 

 

Taylor is a 4 year starter.. and will finish with some excellent stats.

 

 

I am a T-magic supporter....

Isn't that normally how it goes through the non-conference schedule? Normally, it's right around conference play that the Taylor hating begins. (Not that it hasn't been warranted in the past)

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Count 'Bility    4,782

I'm sure it's all situational. If Martinez twists an ankle in the 3rd qtr of a 35-14 lead, then obviously we save the shirt. Now, if we're down 3 with 8 minutes left and Martinez goes down-regardless of the severity-then we go with Armstrong. DISCLAIMER-> Assuming Armstrong is for certain the better of the 2.

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Shockley03    19

Finally get my say. Carnes should be sharing snaps with Kellogg III bottom line. This is poor effort on the coaching staff with managing the QBs.

 

I have two favorite teams -- Georgia (my alma mater) and the Cornhuskers obviously.

 

I am a huge Mark Richt fan. He obviously knows what he's doing----and he's not going to kill the will of his talented players. He has a starter (Aaron Murray). His top backup (Hutson Mason) is redshirting for classification issue reasons. He allows the top two backups (Christian LeMay and Parker Welch) to compete for playing time all week long even though LeMay is listed as 2nd string. Actually in the last game (48-3 win over Vanderbilt), Welch got the nod to get in the game replacing Murray because he had a better week of practice. Coach Richt said it today during his live press conference that he lets the QBs compete during the week.

 

Carnes has got a nice upside----in case no one has paid any attention to that. He's got nice mobility. He deserves the chance to play where his heart is at---quarterback. He came to Nebraska to play QB. At my Georgia, he would be a QB as we allowed D.J. Shockley (my favorite UGA player and mokiner on this website) to stay at his natural position even though we had a 4-year starter who was ahead of him. Shockley still started his senior year at QB and has an SEC Championship ring from that season!

 

It's crazy that only one player comes in to replace T-Mart after a game for Nebraska. The coaches should allow these kids to compete at practice even while the season is still going. They are killing the will of Brion Carnes. It makes me sick. Coach Richt would never do that to a key player----Not ever!

 

It's poor managenment of talent. At worst, Carnes should still be given reps at QB in case of a 73-7 score as in the Idaho State game. I know he is working some at receiver, but he should still be working at his natural position QB----which is where his heart is. He's got enough talent to be there.

 

I don't see UGA 4th stringer Parker Welch being some just-out-of-this-world playmaker, but the coaching staff rewards his hard working effort by getting him on the field based upon his effort at practice each outing.

 

Carnes deserves some reps after Ron Kellogg III has seen the field. It's the least they can do for the time he's been in the system some 2-plus seasons.

 

We would never do D.J. Shockley this way.

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zoogs    6,003

The thing with Carnes is, he was once extremely promising and had an exciting player. It sounds like his development at the QB position has fallen short of those initial expectations - perhaps steeply.

 

We're left with a situation where RK3 isn't the same kind of QB as Taylor, but is talented in a more traditional way and can run a mean offense if Taylor should go down. Tommy is on redshirt - and I guess we don't really have anybody else. But that's just a case of not having the bodies.

 

You could point to issues with how Carnes has been handled. I was very critical of the staff during the offseason prior to '11, because normal programs have open competitions in the spring, particularly after a season of disappointment. But the bottom line is it was always up to Carnes to step up at the position and force a competition. I wish he would have gotten his feet wet more last year and was allowed to develop some confidence and poise on the field. Nonetheless, it was still just his redshirt freshman season. If that experience ultimately derailed his progress at QB, that's on him in the end.

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Shockley03    19

I see, I get you. Thanks, Zoogies.

 

I am just one of these that wants to see a person continue to try and make better of themselves. I really want Carnes to reverse his decision by seeking out coach Beck and make the decision himself to return to QB. I really think his decision came as the result of a knee-jerk reaction from not making the travel bus to the UCLA game.

 

Carnes needs to recant on his decision to move the WR himself, especially with wide receiver depth not being an issue for Nebraska. I felt the stress of it all the moment I saw where Carnes had made the choice to move to wideout in updates on the internet.

 

What he should do---if it's his heart on the matter---is go back to QB just by simply stating it so to the coaches---coach Beck & coach Ganz.

 

Just based on what you said, it sounds like Carnes is a late bloomer instead of some instant contributor like his 2nd cousin Tommie Frazier. However, that shouldn't defeat him. Keithen McCant was a late bloomer---and he was Big Eight Player of the Year in 1991.

 

Brion just needs to speak up then and make the matter known---if that is how he feels. I know I'd like to see him behind center again. I just want the chance to see him run around in the pocket. I bet he can move around all over the place, but he's got to make the final decision there.

 

I know what you mean. I was so hopeful that Anthony Alford would sign a letter of intent with the University of Nebraska---as he seems to really have the dual threat QB skillset down.

 

Recall that Anthony Alford came very close to signing with Nebraska back in January but ended up signing with Southern Miss----as everyone may recall Nebraska's opening game this year against Alford.

 

Man, he has skills.

 

Well, thanks for your input. Thanks for clearing me up on all of this.

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zoogs    6,003

Me too, I'm with ya there. I'm a huge Carnes fan and I only know as much as the next fan following the program, so who knows what has happened. I'm disappointed that he has given up on the QB thing and hope it's not the last we see of him there. It just hasn't looked good for a while.

 

I think we need to bring in Tommie to give him that "Be a Man, man" speech again :P

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Count 'Bility    4,782

What's with all this "we need to have competitions in practice" la la. They do. Ever think that Martinez is actually that much better? And that Kellog is actually better than Carnes?. Nope, cant use that logic, it would make too much sense and give nothing to complain about. But I also see the point of allowing some PT in a game like Idaho St had he not already switched positions. This is not Georgia by the way, and Bo Pelini is not Mark Richt-thank god.

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WhatDoIKnow    144

I don't know more than anyone else, but the issue with Carnes could be more mental than physical. If you can't grasp the system, not much chance of moving up the depth chart. Again, I emphasize "could be", as I have no inside info.

 

I was a big Carnes proponent. Isn't the backup QB always the best, especially after a loss?

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I see, I get you. Thanks, Zoogies.

 

I am just one of these that wants to see a person continue to try and make better of themselves. I really want Carnes to reverse his decision by seeking out coach Beck and make the decision himself to return to QB. I really think his decision came as the result of a knee-jerk reaction from not making the travel bus to the UCLA game.

 

Carnes needs to recant on his decision to move the WR himself, especially with wide receiver depth not being an issue for Nebraska. I felt the stress of it all the moment I saw where Carnes had made the choice to move to wideout in updates on the internet.

 

What he should do---if it's his heart on the matter---is go back to QB just by simply stating it so to the coaches---coach Beck & coach Ganz.

 

Just based on what you said, it sounds like Carnes is a late bloomer instead of some instant contributor like his 2nd cousin Tommie Frazier. However, that shouldn't defeat him. Keithen McCant was a late bloomer---and he was Big Eight Player of the Year in 1991.

 

Brion just needs to speak up then and make the matter known---if that is how he feels. I know I'd like to see him behind center again. I just want the chance to see him run around in the pocket. I bet he can move around all over the place, but he's got to make the final decision there.

 

I know what you mean. I was so hopeful that Anthony Alford would sign a letter of intent with the University of Nebraska---as he seems to really have the dual threat QB skillset down.

 

Recall that Anthony Alford came very close to signing with Nebraska back in January but ended up signing with Southern Miss----as everyone may recall Nebraska's opening game this year against Alford.

 

Man, he has skills.

 

Well, thanks for your input. Thanks for clearing me up on all of this.

Carnes already hit his bloom. He is on the regressing path. Putting him back at QB will do nothing but take reps from guys who may have a legit shot at the position in the future. And from what I have heard, Carnes doesn't apply himself anyways.

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