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NU history of penalties & turnovers since Devaney (graphs included)


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EDIT: I included the 13 games from the 2012 season. Obviously the bowl game hasn't been played yet.

 

Interpret away at will. Keep in mind that penalties and rules have been modified since the Devaney era. Also factor in the amount of games played in a season among other things.

 

The yearly numerical breakdown with total averages can be seen after the graphs below. While fumbles and interceptions are mostly par for the course from Devaney to Pelini, it's the penalty stat that sticks out the most with Pelini posting the highest numbers on average than his predecessors.

 

Disclaimer: I have no agenda here other than to put these numbers into historical perspective. Interestingly enough, the back-to-back national titles won by Devaney were also the years he posted the highest number of penalties in his 11-year tenure.

 

Again, interpret away at will. ;)

 

 

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The first set of numbers separated by "/" = Number of Penalties/Number of Penalty Yds.

The second set of numbers separated by "/" = Number of Fumbles/Number of Fumbles Lost

The third standalone number = Interceptions Thrown

 

Devaney

49/428 - 32/15 - 10

50/480 - 31/15 - 7

56/532 - 26/10 - 13

55/496 - 30/13 - 12

45/429 - 29/18 - 9

42/475 - 46/25 - 15

46/428 - 33/20 - 11

50/377 - 33/17 - 15

80/750 - 33/21 - 12

64/684 - 24/17 - 6

50/510 - 27/21 - 15

 

Osborne

55/548 - 34/17 - 19

41/376 - 37/19 - 15

64/658 - 31/17 - 6

57/584 - 36/28 - 13

59/568 - 33/22 - 9

63/650 - 34/20 - 10

69/723 - 34/22 - 9

59/603 - 44/21 - 6

58/567 - 43/24 - 11

64/539 - 34/18 - 4

63/561 - 44/15 - 6

55/503 - 43/24 - 9

55/431 - 42/20 - 11

76/657 - 33/17 - 10

73/616 - 32/19 - 11

82/702 - 25/12 - 9

71/634 - 32/14 - 3

49/458 - 29/13 - 12

53/455 - 16/9 - 8

74/612 - 20/5 - 7

58/494 - 17/10 - 6

76/670 - 27/13 - 7

47/434 - 28/9 - 6

71/623 - 37/19 - 3

57/498 - 36/17 - 4

 

Solich

61/536 - 27/13 - 5

63/566 - 49/25 - 5

71/622 - 26/9 - 8

69/674 - 24/14 - 11

85/784 - 30/12 - 12

89/710 - 30/14 - 10

 

Callahan

75/561 - 25/10 - 23

89/693 - 27/11 - 13

74/614 - 25/17 - 8

77/589 - 19/11 - 17

 

Pelini

94/800 - 31/17 - 11

100/894 - 21/11 - 12

109/993 - 45/16 - 8

86/688 - 32/11 - 8

80/778 - 34/21 - 11

 

Devaney Avg. = 53/508 - 31/17 - 11

Osborne Avg. = 62/567 - 33/17 - 9

Solich Avg. = 73/649 - 31/15 - 9

Callahan Avg. = 79/614 - 24/12 - 15

Pelini Avg. = 94/831 - 33/15 - 10

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Comparing each year side by side is not accurate unless you also take into acocunt how many penalty yards on average refs were penalizing for each year...

i see what you are saying, but i bet it has been pretty steady throughout the years. regardless, it is comparing a team's discipline given the circumstances and ref's discretion.

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evaney Avg. = 53/508 - 31/17 - 11

Osborne Avg. = 62/567 - 33/17 - 9

Solich Avg. = 73/649 - 31/15 - 9

Callahan Avg. = 79/614 - 24/12 - 15

Pelini Avg. = 94/831 - 33/15 - 10

 

This right here shows me that putting the ball on the ground has always been an issue for us. For those who sit here and call out Bo for fumbles, when they also admire TO, should realize that its a reoccurring thing, and since TO was a great coach, there are somethings you can not teach obviously. On average, Pelini's term, we turn the ball over less on fumbles :)

 

Devaney: 54.8%

Osborne: 51.5%

Solich: 48.3%

Callahan: 50%

Pelini: 45.4%

 

In all seriousness, its not a great statistic. Something we need to get a grasp on, but coaching is not to blame, as we DO play our best players.

 

Penalties are a case of an undisciplined team. Some are not called for, as we have seen this year, and quite questionable, but that only accounts for 1/10 of the total penalties.

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evaney Avg. = 53/508 - 31/17 - 11

Osborne Avg. = 62/567 - 33/17 - 9

Solich Avg. = 73/649 - 31/15 - 9

Callahan Avg. = 79/614 - 24/12 - 15

Pelini Avg. = 94/831 - 33/15 - 10

 

This right here shows me that putting the ball on the ground has always been an issue for us. For those who sit here and call out Bo for fumbles, when they also admire TO, should realize that its a reoccurring thing, and since TO was a great coach, there are somethings you can not teach obviously. On average, Pelini's term, we turn the ball over less on fumbles :)

 

Devaney: 54.8%

Osborne: 51.5%

Solich: 48.3%

Callahan: 50%

Pelini: 45.4%

 

In all seriousness, its not a great statistic. Something we need to get a grasp on, but coaching is not to blame, as we DO play our best players.

 

Penalties are a case of an undisciplined team. Some are not called for, as we have seen this year, and quite questionable, but that only accounts for 1/10 of the total penalties.

the option lended itself to more fumbles IMO. when we are finishing almost dead least in fumbles every year then something is wrong. There are 100 teams that are better than us. However, we run the ball more than most of them, which obviously means we are going to fumble more.

 

I'd like to see fumbles per rush attempt. But that's likely a lot of work.

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Comparing each year side by side is not accurate unless you also take into acocunt how many penalty yards on average refs were penalizing for each year...

 

This is true.

 

When you compare penalty averages, Devaney and Osborne are quite similar. Solich and Callahan are also similar, yet noticeably higher than Devaney/Osborne. Then there's a noticeable change from Solich/Callahan to Pelini. Maybe those gaps are a general indicator that penalties are called more frequently? Obviously I didn't include the average penalties being called across Div. I in a season. But that'd also give us better interpretation to the numbers presented here.

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Comparing each year side by side is not accurate unless you also take into acocunt how many penalty yards on average refs were penalizing for each year...

i see what you are saying, but i bet it has been pretty steady throughout the years. regardless, it is comparing a team's discipline given the circumstances and ref's discretion.

The obvious dropoff in penalties since we hit the B1G can of course be attributed to the fact that B1G officials don't call holding... :)

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evaney Avg. = 53/508 - 31/17 - 11

Osborne Avg. = 62/567 - 33/17 - 9

Solich Avg. = 73/649 - 31/15 - 9

Callahan Avg. = 79/614 - 24/12 - 15

Pelini Avg. = 94/831 - 33/15 - 10

 

This right here shows me that putting the ball on the ground has always been an issue for us. For those who sit here and call out Bo for fumbles, when they also admire TO, should realize that its a reoccurring thing, and since TO was a great coach, there are somethings you can not teach obviously. On average, Pelini's term, we turn the ball over less on fumbles :)

 

Devaney: 54.8%

Osborne: 51.5%

Solich: 48.3%

Callahan: 50%

Pelini: 45.4%

 

In all seriousness, its not a great statistic. Something we need to get a grasp on, but coaching is not to blame, as we DO play our best players.

 

Penalties are a case of an undisciplined team. Some are not called for, as we have seen this year, and quite questionable, but that only accounts for 1/10 of the total penalties.

the option lended itself to more fumbles IMO. when we are finishing almost dead least in fumbles every year then something is wrong. There are 100 teams that are better than us. However, we run the ball more than most of them, which obviously means we are going to fumble more.

 

I'd like to see fumbles per rush attempt. But that's likely a lot of work.

 

A lot of our fumbles this year came from Special Teams, 5 or 6 I think it was. Two players come to mind when you say the word "fumble", Taylor Martinez and Niles Paul. Taylor has accounted for most of our fumbles in Bo's Tenure, and Paul had a lot as well. Taylor makes up for his mistakes though, especially this year.

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Good Stuff!!! Really things aren't alot different except for the penalties and penalty yards. Bo's teams are definitely leading in this. Even with the emphasis on safety and seeing more flags because of it now, his teams penalties and penalty yards are still WAY too high!

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