ZRod Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 In a world where science is based on facts and that is where truth comes from, how do we wrap our minds around the fact that space never ends? How does science go about providing us the facts-based truthful answer to "why did life begin?" as one example. If you looking for the "why" as in how that's a pretty good question. But if you watch the videos The Dude posted and think about the shear number of galaxies, stars, planets shown and the small fraction of the universe those images cover it was almost inevitable that life would happen and it seems just as inevitable that "we", life on earth, are not the only form. But that's a personal opinion. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 In a world where science is based on facts and that is where truth comes from, how do we wrap our minds around the fact that space never ends? That's an oversimplification of "science." Science doesn't claim to answer all things, or have the answer to all things that falls within its purview. It's a means to an end, and sometimes the end isn't known yet. I didn't say Science has all the answers. What I said was that is where we find facts and truth comes from facts. BUT......Scientifically, I have never seen anyone explain how space can never end. So, obviously, we don't have that answer. When I think of space, I feel like I'm from the 15th century and everyone thinks the world is flat until someone sailed a boat around the world and didn't fall off. What is space and what is beyond space? If nothing is beyond space, how is that possible? Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 In a world where science is based on facts and that is where truth comes from, how do we wrap our minds around the fact that space never ends? How does science go about providing us the facts-based truthful answer to "why did life begin?" as one example. If you looking for the "why" as in how that's a pretty good question. But if you watch the videos The Dude posted and think about the shear number of galaxies, stars, planets shown and the small fraction of the universe those images cover it was almost inevitable that life would happen and it seems just as inevitable that "we", life on earth, are not the only form. But that's a personal opinion. Not looking for the why as in 'how', looking for the why as in 'why' I didn't say Science has all the answers. What I said was that is where we find facts and truth comes from facts. Those are really the exact same statement with different semantics. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Not looking for the why as in 'how', looking for the why as in 'why' How did I know? That would be a branch of science or art, however you view it, called philosophy my friend! Quote Link to comment
NUance Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 In a world where science is based on facts and that is where truth comes from, how do we wrap our minds around the fact that space never ends? That's an oversimplification of "science." Science doesn't claim to answer all things, or have the answer to all things that falls within its purview. It's a means to an end, and sometimes the end isn't known yet. I didn't say Science has all the answers. What I said was that is where we find facts and truth comes from facts. BUT......Scientifically, I have never seen anyone explain how space can never end. So, obviously, we don't have that answer. When I think of space, I feel like I'm from the 15th century and everyone thinks the world is flat until someone sailed a boat around the world and didn't fall off. What is space and what is beyond space? If nothing is beyond space, how is that possible? Like most questions in life, the answer can be found in Futurama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbinE6bx8xM 1 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 In a world where science is based on facts and that is where truth comes from, how do we wrap our minds around the fact that space never ends? That's an oversimplification of "science." Science doesn't claim to answer all things, or have the answer to all things that falls within its purview. It's a means to an end, and sometimes the end isn't known yet. I didn't say Science has all the answers. What I said was that is where we find facts and truth comes from facts. BUT......Scientifically, I have never seen anyone explain how space can never end. So, obviously, we don't have that answer. When I think of space, I feel like I'm from the 15th century and everyone thinks the world is flat until someone sailed a boat around the world and didn't fall off. What is space and what is beyond space? If nothing is beyond space, how is that possible? I think technically there could be an end to the universe, and I think there are theories out there that the universe is something like a bubble and there may be more just like it. But we can only see 13.7 billion light years, or the age of the universe, so we have no way of truly knowing if there is a brick wall somewhere out there or not. I think scientists just assume it's infinite for ease of calculations and because of the fact that the rate of expansion is increasing. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Not looking for the why as in 'how', looking for the why as in 'why' How did I know? That would be a branch of science or art, however you view it, called philosophy my friend! Philosophy is not a branch of science - in fact, science could and would not exist without philosophical presuppositions with which to ground itself on. The point that I was making being that science is not the only and exhaustive source of truth, like BigRedBuster claims. 1 Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Like most questions in life, the answer can be found in Futurama. I'm going to miss that show. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Not looking for the why as in 'how', looking for the why as in 'why' How did I know? That would be a branch of science or art, however you view it, called philosophy my friend! Philosophy is not a branch of science - in fact, science could and would not exist without philosophical presuppositions with which to ground itself on. The point that I was making being that science is not the only and exhaustive source of truth, like BigRedBuster claims. I know exactly what your point was, it's been made before. Quote Link to comment
walksalone Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 I had no idea Uranus was that big Walksalone. my friend, you have no idea... Quote Link to comment
Bradr Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Largest Star VY Canis Majoris compared to our sun: Simply amazing. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 That's a future black hole, that's what that is. That much mass in that small of a space (relatively speaking), when that sucker goes nova it's gonna collapse like Mark Mangino dancing on a card table. Quote Link to comment
Junior Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 In a world where science is based on facts and that is where truth comes from, how do we wrap our minds around the fact that space never ends? Try to wrap your head around string theory. Or the theory that the energy that created the big bang was actually another universe bumping into ours. Eventually, I just quit because my head starts hurting. Quote Link to comment
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