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Still a chance? Rumors? Perfect fit in B1G conference. I bet ice hockey will be more attendees than basketball.

 

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113,411 attendance! Could be our Memorial Stadium someday!

 

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Upper deck was closed (ice hazard?) thus "only" 55,000 people :rolleyes:

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Probably no one this one. The one at TD Ameritrade was terrible. I had some of the best seats available and couldn't see a damn thing. Hockey isn't meant to be seen from that far away

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Probably no one this one. The one at TD Ameritrade was terrible. I had some of the best seats available and couldn't see a damn thing. Hockey isn't meant to be seen from that far away

Because baseball park? Football stadiums are different. Baseball field fit in Memorial Stadium? 200' homerun fence?

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As much as I'd like the Huskers to have a hockey team, it's going to be a bit tough. You've got a pretty good team in UNO, several established programs in the region, and I think recruiting would be difficult unless you had amazing facilities and a top tier coach.

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I would really like to see that little N on a hockey helmet. Considering the way BIG is trying to brand itself all over the place, I wouldn't be surprised if they created some incentives for schools to get their programs going.

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go ahead and give me hell, but if the Huskers got a hockey team, they'd still be playing second to my Fighin' Sioux...

You can't use the F word anymore. :D

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go ahead and give me hell, but if the Huskers got a hockey team, they'd still be playing second to my Fighin' Sioux...

You can't use the F word anymore. :D

 

thats ok, I can't spell...

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I don't think the U of N Regents would approve a hockey team for UNL, because it could really hurt the UNO hockey program. The UNO hockey program is the big revenue earner for their sports programs, so I don't see how the Regents would agree to something that would significantly damage UNO.

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I don't think the U of N Regents would approve a hockey team for UNL, because it could really hurt the UNO hockey program. The UNO hockey program is the big revenue earner for their sports programs, so I don't see how the Regents would agree to something that would significantly damage UNO.

 

excellent point...

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As much as I'd like the Huskers to have a hockey team, it's going to be a bit tough. You've got a pretty good team in UNO, several established programs in the region, and I think recruiting would be difficult unless you had amazing facilities and a top tier coach.

 

Couldn't be too hard. Husker football only has half of that.

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As much as I'd like the Huskers to have a hockey team, it's going to be a bit tough. You've got a pretty good team in UNO, several established programs in the region, and I think recruiting would be difficult unless you had amazing facilities and a top tier coach.

 

Couldn't be too hard. Husker football only has half of that.

 

I don't think facilities are going to be as hard to come as the coach is...

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I don't think the U of N Regents would approve a hockey team for UNL, because it could really hurt the UNO hockey program. The UNO hockey program is the big revenue earner for their sports programs, so I don't see how the Regents would agree to something that would significantly damage UNO.

 

excellent point...

 

There are concessions that could be made to help soothe UNO's eventual butthurt over this--promising a two-game home/home series in perpetuity between the programs would be a good bone.

 

But let's be honest--if UNL wants hockey, they'll have hockey. A lot of the pieces are already complete--we have a conference (B1G) to compete in, day one, we have excellent facilities (Pinnacle Starship), and with hockey, the nice thing is that Women's Hockey is available, which helps remove any real Title XI issues.

 

This isn't a slam dunk, but if (enough of) the boosters want it...it will happen. Wouldn't be shocked to see it in place by 2020 or so.

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I don't think the U of N Regents would approve a hockey team for UNL, because it could really hurt the UNO hockey program. The UNO hockey program is the big revenue earner for their sports programs, so I don't see how the Regents would agree to something that would significantly damage UNO.

 

excellent point...

 

There are concessions that could be made to help soothe UNO's eventual butthurt over this--promising a two-game home/home series in perpetuity between the programs would be a good bone.

 

But let's be honest--if UNL wants hockey, they'll have hockey. A lot of the pieces are already complete--we have a conference (B1G) to compete in, day one, we have excellent facilities (Pinnacle Starship), and with hockey, the nice thing is that Women's Hockey is available, which helps remove any real Title XI issues.

 

This isn't a slam dunk, but if (enough of) the boosters want it...it will happen. Wouldn't be shocked to see it in place by 2020 or so.

 

I don't get the animosity towards UNO. The schools are partners in the state, not competitors.

 

Also, Howard Hawks is probably the biggest booster out there, and he is a huge proponent of UNO hockey. I don't see UNL getting a hockey team.

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I don't think the U of N Regents would approve a hockey team for UNL, because it could really hurt the UNO hockey program. The UNO hockey program is the big revenue earner for their sports programs, so I don't see how the Regents would agree to something that would significantly damage UNO.

 

excellent point...

 

There are concessions that could be made to help soothe UNO's eventual butthurt over this--promising a two-game home/home series in perpetuity between the programs would be a good bone.

 

But let's be honest--if UNL wants hockey, they'll have hockey. A lot of the pieces are already complete--we have a conference (B1G) to compete in, day one, we have excellent facilities (Pinnacle Starship), and with hockey, the nice thing is that Women's Hockey is available, which helps remove any real Title XI issues.

 

This isn't a slam dunk, but if (enough of) the boosters want it...it will happen. Wouldn't be shocked to see it in place by 2020 or so.

 

I don't get the animosity towards UNO. The schools are partners in the state, not competitors.

 

Also, Howard Hawks is probably the biggest booster out there, and he is a huge proponent of UNO hockey. I don't see UNL getting a hockey team.

If there were a constant home and home between the two schools, would it not be a positive for UNO to play against a B1G hockey team?

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I don't get the animosity towards UNO. The schools are partners in the state, not competitors.

 

Also, Howard Hawks is probably the biggest booster out there, and he is a huge proponent of UNO hockey. I don't see UNL getting a hockey team.

If there were a constant home and home between the two schools, would it not be a positive for UNO to play against a B1G hockey team?

 

Yeah, I don't understand why a UNL hockey program would necessarily hurt UNO's, even if they didn't play each other. Do a lot of people in Lincoln drive to Omaha to watch UNO hockey? Would people in Omaha start driving to Lincoln to watch UNL hockey instead of UNO? I don't know, but I kind of doubt it. Unless UNO gets a lot of recruits out of Nebraska (also doubt), UNL's entrance won't decimate UNO recruiting base.

 

On an unrelated note, it sounds like the students on the current Husker Hockey squad have to pay a couple thousand dollars to play. That's some dedication. Too bad they play up in Fremont.

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I don't think the U of N Regents would approve a hockey team for UNL, because it could really hurt the UNO hockey program. The UNO hockey program is the big revenue earner for their sports programs, so I don't see how the Regents would agree to something that would significantly damage UNO.

 

excellent point...

 

There are concessions that could be made to help soothe UNO's eventual butthurt over this--promising a two-game home/home series in perpetuity between the programs would be a good bone.

 

But let's be honest--if UNL wants hockey, they'll have hockey. A lot of the pieces are already complete--we have a conference (B1G) to compete in, day one, we have excellent facilities (Pinnacle Starship), and with hockey, the nice thing is that Women's Hockey is available, which helps remove any real Title XI issues.

 

This isn't a slam dunk, but if (enough of) the boosters want it...it will happen. Wouldn't be shocked to see it in place by 2020 or so.

 

I don't get the animosity towards UNO. The schools are partners in the state, not competitors.

 

Also, Howard Hawks is probably the biggest booster out there, and he is a huge proponent of UNO hockey. I don't see UNL getting a hockey team.

If there were a constant home and home between the two schools, would it not be a positive for UNO to play against a B1G hockey team?

 

If UNL were to get a hockey program, it would most likely hurt UNO's attendance and donations from boosters. I live in Colorado, but if I lived in Omaha, I would probably support the UNO hockey program, although I am a UNL alum. I am sure there are a number of UNO hockey boosters that are alums from UNL. If UNL were to add a hockey team, that would probably have a big impact to the UNO hockey program. Yes, they are two different universities, but they are still governed by the same Board of Regents. That is why I don't see UNL adding a hockey program.

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I think UNL has to get hockey. It just makes too much sense now. And with title 9 and everything, women have way more sports than the men do right now. When I checked it was crazy. Women have like 5 more sports they can play at UNL compared to the men. Anyway, it's just too much money to turn down IMO.

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I think UNL has to get hockey. It just makes too much sense now. And with title 9 and everything, women have way more sports than the men do right now. When I checked it was crazy. Women have like 5 more sports they can play at UNL compared to the men. Anyway, it's just too much money to turn down IMO.

 

Right...because there aren't any single women's sports to counter the 85 scholarships that football provides men...hence the larger number of women's sports.

 

This is also why universities were recently exploring the idea of women's collegiate football--for the larger schools that can afford it, it's a way to even out the number of scholarships and use existing facilities to do so.

 

And this is also why if UNL gets Men's Hockey, they will likely get a women's hockey as well (to maintain balance to the number of scholarships). Problem is, there are a lot of costs involved in getting not one, but two programs off the ground.

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As much as I'd like the Huskers to have a hockey team, it's going to be a bit tough. You've got a pretty good team in UNO, several established programs in the region, and I think recruiting would be difficult unless you had amazing facilities and a top tier coach.

I heard Gordon Bombay is available.

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I don't think the U of N Regents would approve a hockey team for UNL, because it could really hurt the UNO hockey program. The UNO hockey program is the big revenue earner for their sports programs, so I don't see how the Regents would agree to something that would significantly damage UNO.

 

excellent point...

 

There are concessions that could be made to help soothe UNO's eventual butthurt over this--promising a two-game home/home series in perpetuity between the programs would be a good bone.

 

But let's be honest--if UNL wants hockey, they'll have hockey. A lot of the pieces are already complete--we have a conference (B1G) to compete in, day one, we have excellent facilities (Pinnacle Starship), and with hockey, the nice thing is that Women's Hockey is available, which helps remove any real Title XI issues.

 

This isn't a slam dunk, but if (enough of) the boosters want it...it will happen. Wouldn't be shocked to see it in place by 2020 or so.

 

I don't get the animosity towards UNO. The schools are partners in the state, not competitors.

 

Also, Howard Hawks is probably the biggest booster out there, and he is a huge proponent of UNO hockey. I don't see UNL getting a hockey team.

If there were a constant home and home between the two schools, would it not be a positive for UNO to play against a B1G hockey team?

 

UNO plays Michigan this year, and used to play Wisconsin, Minnesota, and MSU when they were part of the CCHA.

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As much as I'd like the Huskers to have a hockey team, it's going to be a bit tough. You've got a pretty good team in UNO, several established programs in the region, and I think recruiting would be difficult unless you had amazing facilities and a top tier coach.

I heard Gordon Bombay is available.

 

I was thinking we clone Herb Brooks...

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As much as I'd like the Huskers to have a hockey team, it's going to be a bit tough. You've got a pretty good team in UNO, several established programs in the region, and I think recruiting would be difficult unless you had amazing facilities and a top tier coach.

I heard Gordon Bombay is available.

 

The flying V and knucklepuck could be a real game changer in the NCAA.

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I think UNL has to get hockey. It just makes too much sense now. And with title 9 and everything, women have way more sports than the men do right now. When I checked it was crazy. Women have like 5 more sports they can play at UNL compared to the men. Anyway, it's just too much money to turn down IMO.

 

 

Title IX doesn't work like that. You have to have the same ratio of male/female student-athletes that you do of male/female student enrollment, and there are some insane standards for equality as far as facilities and such too (there was a Title IX investigation at my school a few years ago and the investigators were measuring out the inches in the locker rooms).

 

But basically, the point is that it's not 50/50, it's determined by the student body. If the school has 62% female students, then 62% of the athletes need to be female as well. And like matthew_m_g said, football is such a humongous sport that you need several women's sports to equal up to it.

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We'd love to have you join, guys.

 

I think you can have two hockey schools that close together. I know it isn't exactly the same, but up here in Minnesota we have Mankato State 70 miles to the south, St Cloud State 70 miles to the northwest, and Minnesota Duluth 140 miles north, all playing D1 hockey. You can pull it off down there, too.

 

*edit - I should mention Bemidji State 215 miles north-northwest, but it's hard to take the Bemidji Beavers seriously. Plus they're so far away.

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We'd love to have you join, guys.

 

I think you can have two hockey schools that close together. I know it isn't exactly the same, but up here in Minnesota we have Mankato State 70 miles to the south, St Cloud State 70 miles to the northwest, and Minnesota Duluth 140 miles north, all playing D1 hockey. You can pull it off down there, too.

 

*edit - I should mention Bemidji State 215 miles north-northwest, but it's hard to take the Bemidji Beavers seriously. Plus they're so far away.

 

Bemidji not as bad as you think, been to the tournament 4 times in the past 10 years, so not horrible...

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The Big Ten has some hockey tradition to it, but Eichorst said he's never been nudged by Jim Delany to add a hockey program nor are there any plans for such a move in the near horizon.

Eichorst was clear as clear could be about two things: There will be no beer sold at games anytime in the near future and there will no Husker hockey program anytime in the near future.
"From my perspective, we have 24 sports, and it's about staying focused on that group right now to make sure we can put them all in a situation to be successful," Eichorst said. "I think diverting our efforts from that group just isn't wise."

 

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And so that gets put to bed, so you guys can get your UNO Mav's jerseys...

 

BTW, thought I'd bump this thread with some words from Frank the Tank back in March 2015:

 

 

 

Instead, from what I’ve heard for at least the past year, Nebraska is by far the closest to jumping up to Division I hockey. The Cornhuskers’ new Pinnacle Bank Arena has icemaking capabilities and the school is also opening a new separate ice arena that can easily be used as a practice facility. Since Nebraska has the expensive physical facilities in place already, they’ve already fought the vast majority of the battle in starting a program. Nebraska has a top tier fundraising operation, as well, so they can get the money into place once they’re given the green light. There have been rumblings about Northwestern, Indiana and Iowa looking at hockey, but if you’re a betting person, you should wager heavily on Nebraska as the next existing Big Ten school to add the sport.

 

The reason the B1G would want another school to join their Ice Hockey conference is so they don't have odd numbers, as the article covers Arizona State's expansion into hockey and how they'll likely join the B1G (since the Pac-12 doesn't have an ice hockey conference), and that another B1G school will join them.

 

As for ASU joining the B1G Hockey conference, if the number of B1G alumni in Arizona is true, then it makes sense why they'd join instead of falling in with the Western Conference--in short, ASU would be able to prop up their fledgling program with B1G alum fan money until they get on their feet.

 

Plus, another thing to look at is that Pac-12 member Colorado has a hockey program as well. And while they're content in the Western conference...I'm sure having a brother Pac-12 school in the B1G Conference could entice them to look at a move if the money and TV appearances were right. Colorado would be a good B1G Hockey expansion target if the Pac-12 doesn't get a conference going and wants to provide a more local 'buddy' for ASU to play (relatively speaking).

 

Anyway, not saying this is a sure thing. Just saying FtT has been right a lot more than he's been wrong, and he does have a point about the groundwork already being in place for DoNU to have hockey. Plus, starting a hockey program is in Eichorst's wheelhouse...

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Eichorst is playing this close to the chest, but I'd feel pretty confident, through deduction and also through 'insider' talk, in saying that UNL will field a varsity hockey team within the next 3-4 years.

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Eichorst is playing this close to the chest, but I'd feel pretty confident, through deduction and also through 'insider' talk, in saying that UNL will field a varsity hockey team within the next 3-4 years.

 

Agreed. That, and all of the hard work (building facilities) has already been done. Makes little sense to not capitalize on that...especially when there are no Title IX issues as long as you field both a men's and women's ice hockey program.

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Uhm there is a hockey ice arena being built literally next to the baseball field. Don't know if it's big enough.

 

Edit: found a link http://facilities.unl.edu/projects/john-breslow-ice-hockey-arena

 

Only 700 spectators though.

 

Right--that's what the PBA and their ice-capabilities would be for...

 

And here's an article from the Michigan State SB Nation page re: B1G Hockey Expansion, and address the constant elephant in the room that is a supposed gentleman's agreement between UNL and UNO for the former to not add Ice Hockey:

 

There have been rumors for years (I couldn't find trusted news sources in a quick search to verify truth) that Nebraska, when led by AD Tom Osborne struck a deal with Nebraska-Omaha that when Omaha got rid of their wrestling and football programs to not pull from the Huskers, the Huskers would in turn never add hockey. Even if that is true, Osborne is no longer the AD so I am not sure that is a big concern for the folks in Lincoln. The Mavericks of Omaha have a great coach in Dean Blais, they are in a great conference the NCHC, and they would probably not be scared of the Huskers adding a hockey program. It is not like the teams would be stocked with local talent (like wrestling) so their is not much to lose and a lot to gain from the Huskers adding a program.

 

 

I still think that Ice Hockey is going to come rather soon. The John Breslow is complete and it's clear that DoNU has a vested interest in that building. Plus, the building was built with two college locker rooms (per their own site)--I guess why would you call that out if there's no intent to have college teams use the facility, even if Rec will be using it?

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Probably not supposed to share this? But I have buddies on the UNL Men's Hockey club team and they were specifically told by the athletic department that the only reason they built the Breslow was for a practice facility for the team. They said the team was still several years out, and that the club team could use the ice as their practice/home facility in the interim.

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Probably not supposed to share this? But I have buddies on the UNL Men's Hockey club team and they were specifically told by the athletic department that the only reason they built the Breslow was for a practice facility for the team. They said the team was still several years out, and that the club team could use the ice as their practice/home facility in the interim.

 

Makes sense. And honestly, they're going to have to get two teams up and going--a men's team and a women's team, so double the work, planning, etc.

 

Plus the talk of certain Pac-12 teams (namely Arizona State and Colorado) being interested in joining the B1G for hockey only...we would at least get a rival out of the gate with Colorado should that happen...though it would be nine teams. Wonder who would be #10 or if there would be a #10...

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I'd be all about hockey at Nebraska - I think it's one of the most underrated sports in America (comparatively). I like it waaaaay more than I do basketball and baseball.

 

And, in my humble opinion, sudden death OT in the Stanley Cup playoffs is the most exciting time of any sport you'll ever see. The highs and lows associated with hockey are greater than any other sport I believe.

 

I think it would take time, but Husker fans may flock to it.

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I'd be all about hockey at Nebraska - I think it's one of the most underrated sports in America (comparatively). I like it waaaaay more than I do basketball and baseball.

 

And, in my humble opinion, sudden death OT in the Stanley Cup playoffs is the most exciting time of any sport you'll ever see. The highs and lows associated with hockey are greater than any other sport I believe.

 

I think it would take time, but Husker fans may flock to it.

Football/Wrestling, Baseball, Volleyball, Hockey.

 

That would be the order of importance of sports for me at NU.

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I would be surprised if UNL was allowed by the regents to start a team, unless they are willing to give UNO the shaft again like when they were forced to cut their football program as part of going D1.

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I would be surprised if UNL was allowed by the regents to start a team, unless they are willing to give UNO the shaft again like when they were forced to cut their football program as part of going D1.

 

I guess I don't see why UNO and UNL Men's Hockey couldn't co-exist, especially since the UNO team is more seasoned and had more success--I doubt that DoNU getting a hockey team would suddenly upend their program's trajectory...

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I would be surprised if UNL was allowed by the regents to start a team, unless they are willing to give UNO the shaft again like when they were forced to cut their football program as part of going D1.

 

I guess I don't see why UNO and UNL Men's Hockey couldn't co-exist, especially since the UNO team is more seasoned and had more success--I doubt that DoNU getting a hockey team would suddenly upend their program's trajectory...

 

UNO and UNL hockey could compete for donors' dollars. I am sure there are people that contribute to NU football and UNO hockey. There have to be a lot of UNL almuni that live in Omaha and support Omaha hockey through tickets and donations. I am not sure how many of those live outside Omaha though. I have a feeling that people from Lincoln and the west don't care too much about Omaha.

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This is just a guess...but I don't think UNO hockey is really attended all that well by students. UNL hockey (assuming it was near campus) would be really well attended by students. UNO's crowd seems to be very much like the Creighton crowd...not tons of students but tons of people out for a good time.

 

So you would have a very nice built in base but ColoradoHusker is right...they would be fighting for donor dollars.

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This is just a guess...but I don't think UNO hockey is really attended all that well by students. UNL hockey (assuming it was near campus) would be really well attended by students. UNO's crowd seems to be very much like the Creighton crowd...not tons of students but tons of people out for a good time.

 

So you would have a very nice built in base but ColoradoHusker is right...they would be fighting for donor dollars.

Baxter Arena has 1 student section with 854 seats in it, which is just over 10% of the overall capacity for hockey. I have no idea if they are able to fill that section with students, but that seems like a decent sized "student section" for an arena of that size.

 

If NU hockey were to play in the PBA, they would most likely close off the top section of the arena. I think that is what Omaha would do with the Century Link Center when the Mavs played there before moving this year.

 

EDIT: I forgot the few years that Omaha played at the Ralston Arena after moving out of the C-Link Center.

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By comparison, there are 1,250 student seats at NU men's basketball games in the PBA. 850 of them are in the Red Zone area, with another 400 of standing room only area. So the thought of NU having a bigger student section than Omaha wouldn't be that accurate.

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The average attendance is around 6000+ And if you want a real thrill, come to town when the Fighting Souix visit. They travel like husker fans 17,000 packed fans at the Link. Doesn't get any better than that. Great fans, hockey fans, if you know what I mean, but win or lose they love to party. I just hope they move those games back to the Link. You all must come up and see. I don't agree with the fighting for donor dollars either. UNO won't lose any.

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