CornHunka Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Did I really hear him say that he has Tommie Armstrong the third best QB between him, Wisconsin's Tanner McElvoy and Georgia's Huston Mason? That guy must have played too many games without his helment. Test him for post concussion syndrome NOW. 1 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I didn't watch the show, but that does seem uninformed. Tommy (not -ie) has a lot of growing to do. Quote Link to comment
hskrfan4life Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Are they all three underclassmen? Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I don't remember Mason being good or bad from what I've watched. He's just sort of there. McElvoy is turrble. Quote Link to comment
cg_8 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Are you guys serious? You do know Tanny McEvoy is almost the sole reason Wisconsin lost. Here's his line for that game: 8/24 50 yds 0 TDs 2 Ints Rating of 34.2 He only has one game of 300 total yards. He has 604 passing yards and 5/4 TD/Int. Hutson Mason is better than him. His line from this last week: 16/25 147 yds 1 TD 2 Ints Rating of 110.6 He has 0 games of 300 total yards. Heck, he's never produced more than 200 yards. Has 566 passing yards and a 5/2 TD/Int. Oh, and a total of 25 yards rushing on the season. Tommy's worst game last week vs. Illinois: 10/21 166 yds 1 TD 1 Int Rating of 120.2 Tommy has 3 games of +300 total yards. He has 1052 pass yards and 10/3 TD/Int. He also has 420 Rushing Yards, 2 Rushing TD's, and about 8 ypc. Tell me how Tommy isn't better than those guys? 1 Quote Link to comment
2ndNnine Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 with most of our receivers injured/out Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Are you guys serious? You do know Tanny McEvoy is almost the sole reason Wisconsin lost. Here's his line for that game: 8/24 50 yds 0 TDs 2 Ints Rating of 34.2 He only has one game of 300 total yards. He has 604 passing yards and 5/4 TD/Int. Hutson Mason is better than him. His line from this last week: 16/25 147 yds 1 TD 2 Ints Rating of 110.6 He has 0 games of 300 total yards. Heck, he's never produced more than 200 yards. Has 566 passing yards and a 5/2 TD/Int. Oh, and a total of 25 yards rushing on the season. Tommy's worst game last week vs. Illinois: 10/21 166 yds 1 TD 1 Int Rating of 120.2 Tommy has 3 games of +300 total yards. He has 1052 pass yards and 10/3 TD/Int. He also has 420 Rushing Yards, 2 Rushing TD's, and about 8 ypc. Tell me how Tommy isn't better than those guys? Good post. I personally think that Tommy is playing at a very high level right now. Yes, we can pick apart a play here or there. But, in general, he is running this offense very well and I think we would see a huge drop off if he were to get injured. I am extremely excited about the next two years with him. Also, I have seen glimpses of very good running from Newby that makes me excited about what he can do next year. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Why were the Nebraska, Wisconsin and Georgia QBs grouped together in the first place? Quote Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Why were the Nebraska, Wisconsin and Georgia QBs grouped together in the first place? This is good question. Based solely on stats alone, you'd have to be certifiably insane to not see Tommy as the clear cut top QB among these three. Even if you take opponent strength into account, Tommy has had good games against Illinois and Miami whereas Mason has been below average against Clemson and Tennessee and McEvoy was an unmitigated dumpster fire playing LSU. Quote Link to comment
tmfr15 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I am trying to care about this... and I can't. Who cares what people are saying about Tommy as far as how he rates compared to ANY quarterback? Results on the field show that he is effective moving this team with his feet, with good reads and ball fakes and with occasional dagger sprinkled in. If you look at the numbers... then you might get a bunch of different competing ideas about the guy. From a throw percentage standpoint, most would not be impressed with Tommy, but he is fourth on the list of FBS ball carriers in terms of per carry average and he has 50 totes, so that's doing some work. And he does a great job with the read and is crafty with ball fakes as well. Those skills set up the run for him, the run for some other guy or the throw game. I can't lie, there are sometimes that I am concerned about him because of pre determination in his throw progression. At the same time, I have seen him create some chances in the throw game by "throwing open" his receivers. And sometimes when a guy throws to a spot and not the man, it gets picked. On the throw against McNeese that was returned for a score, it might be a bad read alight, but it could be that he was thinking Westy was gonna get there a few steps sooner than what he did. It's been written that this guy is a youngster. And that's true. It may be the case that he adds four or five completions to his usual numbers as the season goes on. And it's not like he's throwing three interceptions a game, so he is taking care of the ball fairly well. I can't think of a footall universe where 14-of-21 would not be considered good ball. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Why were the Nebraska, Wisconsin and Georgia QBs grouped together in the first place? Im guessing because of Ameer, Gordon and Gurleys Heisman chances based on their QB situation 1 Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Are you guys serious? You do know Tanny McEvoy is almost the sole reason Wisconsin lost. Here's his line for that game: 8/24 50 yds 0 TDs 2 Ints Rating of 34.2 He only has one game of 300 total yards. He has 604 passing yards and 5/4 TD/Int. Hutson Mason is better than him. His line from this last week: 16/25 147 yds 1 TD 2 Ints Rating of 110.6 He has 0 games of 300 total yards. Heck, he's never produced more than 200 yards. Has 566 passing yards and a 5/2 TD/Int. Oh, and a total of 25 yards rushing on the season. Tommy's worst game last week vs. Illinois: 10/21 166 yds 1 TD 1 Int Rating of 120.2 Tommy has 3 games of +300 total yards. He has 1052 pass yards and 10/3 TD/Int. He also has 420 Rushing Yards, 2 Rushing TD's, and about 8 ypc. Tell me how Tommy isn't better than those guys? Good post. I personally think that Tommy is playing at a very high level right now. Yes, we can pick apart a play here or there. But, in general, he is running this offense very well and I think we would see a huge drop off if he were to get injured. I am extremely excited about the next two years with him. Also, I have seen glimpses of very good running from Newby that makes me excited about what he can do next year. I agree that TA is playing at a high level. Remember Frazier only had one year with a completion percentage better than 50%. In what many consider his best game ever , NCG against Florida, he was 6-14 with two interceptions and zero TDs. And a lot of us believe Frazier was the best college QB of all time. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I am trying to care about this... and I can't. Who cares what people are saying about Tommy as far as how he rates compared to ANY quarterback? Results on the field show that he is effective moving this team with his feet, with good reads and ball fakes and with occasional dagger sprinkled in. If you look at the numbers... then you might get a bunch of different competing ideas about the guy. From a throw percentage standpoint, most would not be impressed with Tommy, but he is fourth on the list of FBS ball carriers in terms of per carry average and he has 50 totes, so that's doing some work. And he does a great job with the read and is crafty with ball fakes as well. Those skills set up the run for him, the run for some other guy or the throw game. I can't lie, there are sometimes that I am concerned about him because of pre determination in his throw progression. At the same time, I have seen him create some chances in the throw game by "throwing open" his receivers. And sometimes when a guy throws to a spot and not the man, it gets picked. On the throw against McNeese that was returned for a score, it might be a bad read alight, but it could be that he was thinking Westy was gonna get there a few steps sooner than what he did. It's been written that this guy is a youngster. And that's true. It may be the case that he adds four or five completions to his usual numbers as the season goes on. And it's not like he's throwing three interceptions a game, so he is taking care of the ball fairly well. I can't think of a footall universe where 14-of-21 would not be considered good ball. It was shown in the week after that game, Westy signaled that he was changing his route but when he gave the signal, TA was looking in the opposite direction. On that point, I actually blame Westy. If you're giving a signal to your QB, at least make sure he is looking your way. 1 Quote Link to comment
Joe_5700 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Are you guys serious? You do know Tanny McEvoy is almost the sole reason Wisconsin lost. Here's his line for that game: 8/24 50 yds 0 TDs 2 Ints Rating of 34.2 He only has one game of 300 total yards. He has 604 passing yards and 5/4 TD/Int. Hutson Mason is better than him. His line from this last week: 16/25 147 yds 1 TD 2 Ints Rating of 110.6 He has 0 games of 300 total yards. Heck, he's never produced more than 200 yards. Has 566 passing yards and a 5/2 TD/Int. Oh, and a total of 25 yards rushing on the season. Tommy's worst game last week vs. Illinois: 10/21 166 yds 1 TD 1 Int Rating of 120.2 Tommy has 3 games of +300 total yards. He has 1052 pass yards and 10/3 TD/Int. He also has 420 Rushing Yards, 2 Rushing TD's, and about 8 ypc. Tell me how Tommy isn't better than those guys? Good post. I personally think that Tommy is playing at a very high level right now. Yes, we can pick apart a play here or there. But, in general, he is running this offense very well and I think we would see a huge drop off if he were to get injured. I am extremely excited about the next two years with him. Also, I have seen glimpses of very good running from Newby that makes me excited about what he can do next year. I agree that TA is playing at a high level. Remember Frazier only had one year with a completion percentage better than 50%. In what many consider his best game ever , NCG against Florida, he was 6-14 with two interceptions and zero TDs. And a lot of us believe Frazier was the best college QB of all time. I thought Frazier tossed a TD to Phillips on our first scoring drive in that game? Quote Link to comment
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