BigRedBuster Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Interesting. LINK LINK Link to comment
strigori Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Shocking. A pair conservative, big business and Wall Street leaning publications go after the turn around in California. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hmmmm... So no comments about the points they made? I guess kill the messenger. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Im actually starting to gain more respect for Brown. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/us/with-surplus-in-hand-california-eyes-debt.html?referrer=&_r=0 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-retiree-health-liabilities-20141231-story.html Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Im actually starting to gain more respect for Brown. CA does seem to be in a much better place . . . but the reality is that they were hit unusually hard by the recession and this bounce back in large part just reflects the broader economic recovery. This is why it's such a contrast with the situation in Kansas. Kansas was not hit nearly as hard by the recession . . . but they've chosen to give benefits to their wealthiest residents at the expense of everyone else. In other words, a large part of the problem in California was underlying economic factors while the problems in Kansas were conscious choices by the Republican party. 5 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It appears to me that the California financial change has appeared to take place by making tough decisions to cut expenses along with pushing financial responsibilities down the road that probably is going to smack them in the face at some point along with the economic recovery. Brown is actually being the financial responsible one with Dems upset about it and wanting to go spend a bunch more money. Those cuts weren't what people would call cutting benefits to rich. They were cutting education and other things that would normally benefit low to middle income people. It's tough decisions that needed to be made and he did it. Link to comment
QMany Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 As a Kansas resident, I cannot believe he was reelected. Now, there is also an inquiry into Brownback and multiple $500,000 cash loans. Link to comment
carlfense Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Brown is actually being the financial responsible one with Dems upset about it and wanting to go spend a bunch more money.Some of them, sure. But the one that you refer to as being financially responsible is also a Dem. Those cuts weren't what people would call cutting benefits to rich.Exactly. It's quite the opposite, actually as CA has quite high taxes on the rich. Link to comment
It'sNotAFakeID Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Brown is actually being the financial responsible one with Dems upset about it and wanting to go spend a bunch more money.Some of them, sure. But the one that you refer to as being financially responsible is also a Dem. Those cuts weren't what people would call cutting benefits to rich.Exactly. It's quite the opposite, actually as CA has quite high taxes on the rich. Socialists! Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Brown is actually being the financial responsible one with Dems upset about it and wanting to go spend a bunch more money.Some of them, sure. But the one that you refer to as being financially responsible is also a Dem. Those cuts weren't what people would call cutting benefits to rich.Exactly. It's quite the opposite, actually as CA has quite high taxes on the rich. I fully understand the party that elected Brown. Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Brown is actually being the financial responsible one with Dems upset about it and wanting to go spend a bunch more money.Some of them, sure. But the one that you refer to as being financially responsible is also a Dem. Those cuts weren't what people would call cutting benefits to rich.Exactly. It's quite the opposite, actually as CA has quite high taxes on the rich. They have relatively high taxes on the rich (some temporary) and at the same time have cut programs (education) that more benefits the low and middle class. BUT, at the same time, they have pushed down the road debt that needs to be paid which includes (but is not limited to) retirement health care, pensions and debt owed to the federal government and bond holders. Link to comment
QMany Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 jason taylor @WIBWjasontaylor 8m8 minutes ago Had a sit down with Rep. Ward of Wichita-D. He says Republicans want to starve education to the point of privatizing it. #ksleg Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Do any states have a privatized education system? If so, any idea how their performance ranks amongst publicly-funded education systems? Link to comment
Abdullah the Butcher Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Do any states have a privatized education system? If so, any idea how their performance ranks amongst publicly-funded education systems?New Orleans after Katrina went to a lot of private schools and they were doing better supposedly. http://time.com/money/3105112/private-school-enrollment-cities-highest/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-new-orleans-traditional-public-schools-close-for-good/2014/05/28/ae4f5724-e5de-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html The Washington Post Before the storm, the citys high school graduation rate was 54.4 percent. In 2013, the rate for the Recovery School District was 77.6 percent. On average, 57 percent of students performed at grade level in math and reading in 2013, up from 23 percent in 2007, according to the state. Opinion surveys show support for charter schools but unease about the shuttering of all traditional schools, with just 41 percent of New Orleans residents backing the idea in a poll commissioned by the Cowen Institute for Public Education Initiatives at Tulane University in New Orleans. The changes also have been stirred racial tensions and claims of disenfranchisement. Link to comment
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