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Mavric    9,164

 

 

Isn't Bubak our only decommit so far, or am I forgetting someone else?

We also lost a couple guys from the Class of 2015.

 

They weren't from Nebraska, though, were they?

 

 

No. I don't think anyone said they were. Bussey and Reuben Jones are the two I remember decommitting.

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jsneb83    1,279

 

 

 

Isn't Bubak our only decommit so far, or am I forgetting someone else?

We also lost a couple guys from the Class of 2015.

 

They weren't from Nebraska, though, were they?

 

 

No. I don't think anyone said they were. Bussey and Reuben Jones are the two I remember decommitting.

 

I guess when I read this:

 

Also, they waited until the finished there cross-country recruiting tour before recruiting in Nebraska. That strategy worked to land some of our 2015 signees out of state, but it lead to some decommits, which includes Bubak.

 

It sounded like he was talking about other Nebraska recruits decommitting, not just all the decommits in general. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

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theknife    220

When they announced the 500 mile radius goal, I didn't take it to mean day 1 and on we would dominate the area. Rather, they are beginning to lay the ground work in establishing themselves with high schools, coaches, and players(2017+) within said radius in an effort to achieve this goal over the long term. Check back next year and the following for a year for a true measure of our success here.

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fire mike    433

 

 

 

 

Isn't Bubak our only decommit so far, or am I forgetting someone else?

We also lost a couple guys from the Class of 2015.

 

They weren't from Nebraska, though, were they?

 

 

No. I don't think anyone said they were. Bussey and Reuben Jones are the two I remember decommitting.

 

I guess when I read this:

 

Also, they waited until the finished there cross-country recruiting tour before recruiting in Nebraska. That strategy worked to land some of our 2015 signees out of state, but it lead to some decommits, which includes Bubak.

 

It sounded like he was talking about other Nebraska recruits decommitting, not just all the decommits in general. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

 

 

I was reading it the same way, my mistake.

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kchusker_chris    1,402

 

 

 

 

Isn't Bubak our only decommit so far, or am I forgetting someone else?

We also lost a couple guys from the Class of 2015.

 

They weren't from Nebraska, though, were they?

 

 

No. I don't think anyone said they were. Bussey and Reuben Jones are the two I remember decommitting.

 

I guess when I read this:

 

Also, they waited until the finished there cross-country recruiting tour before recruiting in Nebraska. That strategy worked to land some of our 2015 signees out of state, but it lead to some decommits, which includes Bubak.

 

It sounded like he was talking about other Nebraska recruits decommitting, not just all the decommits in general. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

 

 

I don't think Bo every had a Nebraska kid decommit. #RileySucks (sarcasm)

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Isn't Bubak our only decommit so far, or am I forgetting someone else?

We also lost a couple guys from the Class of 2015.

 

They weren't from Nebraska, though, were they?

 

 

No. I don't think anyone said they were. Bussey and Reuben Jones are the two I remember decommitting.

 

I guess when I read this:

 

Also, they waited until the finished there cross-country recruiting tour before recruiting in Nebraska. That strategy worked to land some of our 2015 signees out of state, but it lead to some decommits, which includes Bubak.

 

It sounded like he was talking about other Nebraska recruits decommitting, not just all the decommits in general. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

 

 

I don't think Bo every had a Nebraska kid decommit. #RileySucks (sarcasm)

 

Thats because he recruited very few of them

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Mavric    9,164

Interesting because it didn't seem like they really had specific regions last year.

 

I wonder if they did until they focused in on some guys or if they're changing it up this year.

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Mavric    9,164

Nebraska and every other program gets 168 evaluation days — to split up between nine coaches — in the spring. A given prospect can be "evaluated" by two coaches in the spring. Evaluations consist of many things, including, in the states that allow high school spring football practice, watching players in practice settings. But coaches, Gunderson said, look a lot of things about a player.

Each has 18 days or so to evaluate and has to try and see every potential prospect in their recruiting region and every prospect at their position who's not in their region. Gunderson said assistants do a good job of figuring out how they're going to accomplish their game plan.

 

OWH

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Red Five    3,008

Interesting because it didn't seem like they really had specific regions last year.

 

I wonder if they did until they focused in on some guys or if they're changing it up this year.

 

Maybe it didn't seem like they have regions because they also are in charge of visiting their position prospects? So Stewart will have to swoop through the SE, but then head to Cali for Holmes, Lenior, etc...

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BIG ERN    879

Here is a list of all the prospects above .88 who we didn't offer in the 500 mile radius (247 Composite Ratings). Not stating that any of these kids are better than who we offered etc. Was just curious and thought I'd share .88 - .89 is the cusp of being a 4* or above. Obviously a boat load of 3* not listed

 

(WR) Oliver Martin http://247sports.com/Player/Oliver-Martin-83423

(OT) Tristan Wirfs http://247sports.com/Player/Tristan-Wirfs-83665

(TE) Cole Kmet http://247sports.com/Player/Cole-Kmet-82570

(WR) Ricky Smalling http://247sports.com/Player/Ricky-Smalling-38099

(OG) Kevin Jarvis http://247sports.com/Player/Kevin-Jarvis-81337

(ATH) Isaiah Robertson http://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Robertson-57485

(OG) Kayden Lyles http://247sports.com/Player/Kayden-Lyles-36785

(OT) Tyler Beach http://247sports.com/Player/Tyler-Beach-86162

(OG) Creed Humphrey http://247sports.com/Player/Creed-Humphrey-81791

(ATH) DaRon Davis http://247sports.com/Player/Daron-Davis-83837

(OG) Marquis Hayes http://247sports.com/Player/Marquis-Hayes-83851

(DT) Akial Byers http://247sports.com/Player/Akial-Byers-60955

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84HuskerLaw    500

If we are only targeting guys who already 'want to be Huskers' we are really limiting our pool of potential talent. One needs to make contacts and "sell" or introduce the many features of Husker athletics to as many as possible.

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El Diaco    4,546

I've always wondered why people seem to be so obsessed with the 500 mile radius considering there are a helluva lot more, and better, players outside that radius. Sure, pickup a few gimmes in the radius but, other than a few easier recruiting jobs, wouldn't we be best served going after more and better wherever they may be?

 

Seems like concentrating on that radius is code for that's the best we can hope for.

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BIG ERN    879

I've always wondered why people seem to be so obsessed with the 500 mile radius considering there are a helluva lot more, and better, players outside that radius. Sure, pickup a few gimmes in the radius but, other than a few easier recruiting jobs, wouldn't we be best served going after more and better wherever they may be?

 

Seems like concentrating on that radius is code for that's the best we can hope for.

To me it builds a brand of Nebraska and that we are the dominant Midwest team. Within that radius you are also dealing with way less high level competition of teams, and kids who are more aware what Nebraska brings to the table. These kids know the cold weather, the scenery, etc etc. You don't build the whole roster around this, but you damn sure nab all the top players in these areas.

 

Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, South Dakota, Kansas

 

Now we are trying to bring kids from across the United States and competing with USC, UCLA, Oregon, Arizona St, Stanford, Washington

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Warrior10    1,784

I would say that we should be able to nab at least 5 solid scholly guys per year within the 500 mile radius.

I think that number could even average 8ish regularly.

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wiuhusker    124

I've always wondered why people seem to be so obsessed with the 500 mile radius considering there are a helluva lot more, and better, players outside that radius. Sure, pickup a few gimmes in the radius but, other than a few easier recruiting jobs, wouldn't we be best served going after more and better wherever they may be?

 

Seems like concentrating on that radius is code for that's the best we can hope for.

Nebraska will always have to recruit nationally. Just part of it. But if there are 5-8 kids each year who are legit prospects that can help Nebraska win football games then why not recruit them. KC and STL will routinely put out talent that can help us. IF those kids want to come to Nebraska then by all means.

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GBRFAN    394

 

I've always wondered why people seem to be so obsessed with the 500 mile radius considering there are a helluva lot more, and better, players outside that radius. Sure, pickup a few gimmes in the radius but, other than a few easier recruiting jobs, wouldn't we be best served going after more and better wherever they may be?

 

Seems like concentrating on that radius is code for that's the best we can hope for.

Nebraska will always have to recruit nationally. Just part of it. But if there are 5-8 kids each year who are legit prospects that can help Nebraska win football games then why not recruit them. KC and STL will routinely put out talent that can help us. IF those kids want to come to Nebraska then by all means.

 

 

This is a good point and should be a goal, however we have to remember that some of these kids aren't going to fit our system and some of these kids want to go see a different part of the country. I'm sure the staff sometimes gets an early indication from the kids that they are looking for something different.

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TonyStalloni    528

Flip side of the coin. Many of these kids would rather stay in the midwest but want to play for a winner. Missouri and Kansas aren't exactly on the upswing. Colorado and Iowa were pretty good. South Dakota doesn't have an FBS program. Illinois has a new coach who may generate some interest. If a kid has talent and wants his family to so most of his home games then by all means see if we can get them here. It may take a year or two in some cases to get them game ready but if our coaches are good enough they will get there.

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swmohusker    641

I feel like I say this in many other threads. But wherever Wisconsin goes to get their players, we need to go.

^^This, besides skill player. They don't have much at Qb or WR on offense and psu made that secondary look average. Something we weren't able to take advantage of.

 

But if we coild recruit the OL they have and the front 7 on defense we could win some conference titles.

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OMFG...so now we're looking to f'ing Wisconsin as the model? Pardon me whilst I vomit. Especially since Barry Alvarez fashioned Wisconsin AFTER Nebraska.

 

The "500 Mile Radius" was always meant to be the heart of the team.

 

Find the kids within 500 miles of Lincoln who would rather die than to see Nebraska lose...that's what the 500 mile radius represents.

 

Then, fill in the recruiting class with speed/skill position players from Texas, California, Florida, or where ever we find them.

 

The 500 mile radius is, and always has been, the heart of the team.

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Atbone95    1,150

 

Sounds like academics are an issue.

 

Well gahl darn it these coaches ought to sign him anyways so we can have more 4*'s and make sure we are locking down that radius! ARE THEY DUMB?!

 

This is direct proof of two things.

1) We don't care about our recruiting rankings, blatantly

2) We don't care about the radius

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Mavric    9,164

Interesting to read back through this. Seems like the plan changed quite a bit from what was originally thought.

 

And I merged the new with the old.

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Mavric    9,164

I was actually looking through the old thread because I thought I had numbers on how many 500 mile radius guys we'd taken over the years. Can't find it. Maybe I'll go counting when I have time.

 

Callahan said this morning that his preference would be 65% of a class from the 500 mile radius.

 

Currently 5 out of 15 are in the radius (I included Bando).

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HuskerNation1    883

Unless we land Lewis, Johnson, and Lenoir, it seems the Calibraska connection will not provide as much return on our investment as we had all hoped. Some of the guys we have lost out to (Porcher, Calvin) seem to be a result of the distance factor which typically is the case. I would like to see this staff take a more balanced approach with where they spend their time and energy and hit some targets within the 500 mile radius a bit harder. Here are some of the key areas I think Nebraska should focus on:

 

1. Chicago-We seem to spend very little time and energy here, and I can tell you there is a lot of talent here, and most of it is going out of state given how poorly Illinois is (and Northwestern is just average but has no great appeal from a tradition perspective)

2. St. Louis-Again, a lot of good talent, and while Missouri is now in the SEC, St. Louis still is part of the midwest and Big Ten country.

3. Kansas City-We have done well here and should continue efforts here.

4. Minneapolis

5. Denver

6. Oklahoma City

 

And just outside 500 miles, we should be hitting the DFW metroplex harder as well as Indianapolis. I think we are hitting some of these areas, but it seems we should push harder than we are. Also, we should dominate getting the best talent out of Nebraska, the Dakotas, Wyoming, and Kansas. If we can get 70% of our class from these areas with a star average of 3.75, that will set us up well to get the final 25% from the West coast and the Southeast.

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I was listening to analyst on the radio this morning and he was asked about why NE was not putting out the football players like in the past. He stated that the midwest was moving toward basketball. Basketball is played year round and football is not.

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MyBloodIsRed16    198

I was listening to analyst on the radio this morning and he was asked about why NE was not putting out the football players like in the past. He stated that the midwest was moving toward basketball. Basketball is played year round and football is not.

This is a big problem in Indiana. I've coached kids and had teammates that were damn good football players and very average basketball players. They would rather go to some low level D1 or D11 to play basketball than play football.

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Mavric    9,164

I was listening to analyst on the radio this morning and he was asked about why NE was not putting out the football players like in the past. He stated that the midwest was moving toward basketball. Basketball is played year round and football is not.

 

I would buy that more if we were cranking out basketball recruits but that's not really the case.

 

It might have some effect. But I would guess it's only about reason #3 at best. The first two being general not-as-much-interest/too-many-other-things-to-do that just generally depletes numbers and time put into football or basketball. And none of these kids being born the last time the Huskers won a conference title so they haven't grown up in the same winning culture.

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TonyStalloni    528

My son pointed out this player from Blue Valley High School in the KC area (500 mile radius). He is a 6'6" 185 WR named Harrison Van Dyne. He has offers from KU, Minn, Wyoming and W Mich. He is visiting Wisc this weekend. Sounds like our coaches have talked to him or he at least lists us as an interest on his ESPN profile. His Hudl video (which my pc won't open).

 

http://www.hudl.com/profile/3932790/harrison-van-dyne

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Huskerzoo    330

 

That is pretty telling.

 

 

I mean yes and no. That looks like a gerrymandered map. Radius is more telling or even a google maps drive for time. Look due south, the map cuts out and then in again. It's still telling, but they're inflating the numbers.

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ColoNoCoHusker    396

 

 

That is pretty telling.

 

 

I mean yes and no. That looks like a gerrymandered map. Radius is more telling or even a google maps drive for time. Look due south, the map cuts out and then in again. It's still telling, but they're inflating the numbers.

 

 

Well put, was about to mention similar.

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It may be irregular, but that was the point. I was getting at the people who are saying we should stop focusing in California and focus more here. I think this shows that line of thinking doesn't make sense. We have to do both well to be successful.

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ColoNoCoHusker    396

I don't disagree that if we want top talent, we have to focus on the population centers. One could illustrate the same point with a heat map highlighting the locations of 5-star talent though. It wouldn't seem as sensational but neither would it seem "rigged". Having to cut out sections on the East & South/Southeast seems a disingenuous way to illustrate a valid premise...

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spurs1990    561

500 mile radius is a good thought, however there aren't really any teams above us that have more of these players that I envy or think are better than us..

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GSG    5,521

 

I saw this tweet last night and it made me wonder a couple things:

 

1. What is a good number to have on that list?

 

2. Does the number actually matter, or is it a quality over quantity scenario?

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Mavric    9,164

I saw this tweet last night and it made me wonder a couple things:

 

1. What is a good number to have on that list?

 

2. Does the number actually matter, or is it a quality over quantity scenario?

Sean Callahan said a couple weeks ago that he thinks about 65% of the class should come from the 500 mile radius. That seems a bit high but I think we should probably be able to get most of both lines from that area - maybe a top-shelf guy for each from somewhere else. For a pro-style system, you're probably usually looking outside the radius for a QB just based on the limited numbers you have inside. WRs probably the same. RBs and LBs I would think there would be options inside.

 

I would think we could get 2-3 out of Nebraska, 2-3 out of Missouri, 1-2 out of Colorado, 1-2 out of Oklahoma, 1 out of Illinois, 1-2 out of Iowa/Minnesota/Wisconsin and maybe 1 wild card (Kansas, SD, ND). That would be 8-14 which would be close to 50% in most years. That seems doable.

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