Dr. Mantis Toboggan Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I didn't know how many members on the board use e-cigs, but with many people throwing away the packs of Marlboros and switching over to the future of smoking I figured that the vaping connoisseurs can share what devices or flavors of juices they prefer. E-Cigs have been a hot topic in the news as well with some states looking to possibly banning the devices or having them strictly regulated. Post any news or studies that you find here. Quote Link to comment
Dr. Mantis Toboggan Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Device: itazte vv 4 Tank: I-Clear 30s Juice: Bettlejuice from Alohma (aka Plumes in Omaha) Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think they are the lamest things I have ever seen...with that being said...I wish I would have bought into one of the 3 E-cig places in the area that I live...They are making money hand over fist! Just another idea that I missed out on... I hate me! Quote Link to comment
Dr. Mantis Toboggan Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think they are the lamest things I have ever seen...with that being said...I wish I would have bought into one of the 3 E-cig places in the area that I live...They are making money hand over fist! Just another idea that I missed out on... I hate me! The guy that started Plumes in Omaha started selling them in his parents basement about 5 years ago. Now the guy is making millions. Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think they are the lamest things I have ever seen...with that being said...I wish I would have bought into one of the 3 E-cig places in the area that I live...They are making money hand over fist! Just another idea that I missed out on... I hate me! The guy that started Plumes in Omaha started selling them in his parents basement about 5 years ago. Now the guy is making millions. I believe it...I wish I would have rented a bay...dropped in 25K and took a chance on it... Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think they are the lamest things I have ever seen... Why? I don't smoke and I would never use one of these things, but they're brilliant. You get your nicotine fix without the tar & chemicals inherent in cigarettes. It's overall healthier, it takes money away from a bad lobby in Washington & it helps people. I think these things are among the best inventions in the past 25 years. 2 Quote Link to comment
Dr. Mantis Toboggan Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think they are the lamest things I have ever seen...with that being said...I wish I would have bought into one of the 3 E-cig places in the area that I live...They are making money hand over fist! Just another idea that I missed out on... I hate me! The guy that started Plumes in Omaha started selling them in his parents basement about 5 years ago. Now the guy is making millions. I believe it...I wish I would have rented a bay...dropped in 25K and took a chance on it... You would be a wealthier man today, that I am sure of Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 How much safer are they? I know very little, but it seems like it could be a case of marketing hype over (thus far poorly understood) reality. (ref: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/health-risks-e-cigarettes-emerge) Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think they are the lamest things I have ever seen... Why? I don't smoke and I would never use one of these things, but they're brilliant. You get your nicotine fix without the tar & chemicals inherent in cigarettes. It's overall healthier, it takes money away from a bad lobby in Washington & it helps people. I think these things are among the best inventions in the past 25 years. They're definitely a better alternative than cigarettes, but I've never seen a person smoke one without looking pretentious. It was really weird the first couple times you see plumes of smoke going up in the bar again, but you don't have the awful smell anymore. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 How much safer are they? I know very little, but it seems like it could be a case of marketing hype over (thus far poorly understood) reality. (ref: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/health-risks-e-cigarettes-emerge) There was an article in the paper the other day which said they may still release some harmful chemicals, similar to cigarettes, such as formaldehyde. Obviously with a young technology the research is just starting to come in, we'll see I guess. Quote Link to comment
GSG Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I tried a friend's e-cig once. Tasted like smoking a battery Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't think we can say e-cigarettes are safe. It's a near-certainty they are safer than cigarettes, the product they're intended to replace. LINK The AHA had avoided making any sort of statement until now. In a 20-page policy paper, the association cites research that suggests vaping is less dangerous than smoking and suggests it can be used as a smoking cessation aid. "E-cigarettes either do not contain or have lower levels of several tobacco-derived harmful and potentially harmful constituents compared with cigarettes and smokeless tobacco," it states. E-cigarettes also "present an opportunity for harm reduction if smokers use them as substitutes for cigarettes." That's not to say that the AHA wholeheartedly endorses the use of e-cigarettes. Like many other health organizations (and like some in the industry itself), the group suggests that e-cigs should be regulated much like tobacco products are now, and it also cites the oft-stated worry that e-cigs could "renormalize" tobacco use and serve as a gateway for children and teens to get into smoking. Nearly nothing we do is "safe." From drinking alcohol to eating red meat to boxed cereal to even sitting down, everything we do comes with inherent risks. E-cigarettes are a better option for smokers than an actual cigarette. That's their benefit. 1 Quote Link to comment
Dr. Mantis Toboggan Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 How much safer are they? I know very little, but it seems like it could be a case of marketing hype over (thus far poorly understood) reality. (ref: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/health-risks-e-cigarettes-emerge) There was an article in the paper the other day which said they may still release some harmful chemicals, similar to cigarettes, such as formaldehyde. Obviously with a young technology the research is just starting to come in, we'll see I guess. I read an article on that study. The Formaldehyde is released when the juice is heated at extremely high temperatures, most devices can't get that hot. Nicotine itself is harmful to the body and lethal at high dosages. I wouldn't call vaping a "healthy" habit but it is definitely healthier than the 7000+ cancer causing agents found in cigarettes. I also pulled this quote from the link you posted, Zoogies. “There’s no question that a puff on an e-cigarette is less toxic than a puff on a regular cigarette,” says Stanton Glantz of the University of California, San Francisco. Quote Link to comment
ZRod Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't think we can say e-cigarettes are safe. It's a near-certainty they are safer than cigarettes, the product they're intended to replace. LINK The AHA had avoided making any sort of statement until now. In a 20-page policy paper, the association cites research that suggests vaping is less dangerous than smoking and suggests it can be used as a smoking cessation aid. "E-cigarettes either do not contain or have lower levels of several tobacco-derived harmful and potentially harmful constituents compared with cigarettes and smokeless tobacco," it states. E-cigarettes also "present an opportunity for harm reduction if smokers use them as substitutes for cigarettes." That's not to say that the AHA wholeheartedly endorses the use of e-cigarettes. Like many other health organizations (and like some in the industry itself), the group suggests that e-cigs should be regulated much like tobacco products are now, and it also cites the oft-stated worry that e-cigs could "renormalize" tobacco use and serve as a gateway for children and teens to get into smoking. Nearly nothing we do is "safe." From drinking alcohol to eating red meat to boxed cereal to even sitting down, everything we do comes with inherent risks. E-cigarettes are a better option for smokers than an actual cigarette. That's their benefit. I see dieing from bliss as the only risk here. Quote Link to comment
Dr. Mantis Toboggan Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 At this point the studies are too early and conflicting to make an accurate judgement on vaping. For example, Knapp posted an article from the AHA, the World Health Organization posted a conflicting report while WebMD posted an article from a group of researchers from the UK who criticized the WHO with their claims. http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20140905/who-call-e-cigarette-ban-criticized My personal experience, I feel much better and have more energy when I vape compared to when I was smoking tobacco. Quote Link to comment
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