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#1 NUance

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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:07 AM

I've been bitten by the golf bug lately.  I'd really like to step my game up to the point where I can count on playing a respectable round, say, in the mid 80s on the course where I regularly play (par 70 with a 70.7 course rating and a slope of 123).  That means I'll need to get to a handicap of around 14.  Right now I'm probly around 20.  (There, I said it.  My golf game is in the shitter right now.  Oh the shame!  LOL)  The best I've ever been is around 16.5, and that was several years ago.

 

Anyway, this thread is for discussion of your own endeavors with the small ball.  Golf talk.  Bragging, lamenting, tips and soliciting advice about your own golf game.  I know there are guys on this board that I (and maybe others) could glean advice from.  QMany is quite an accomplished golfer.  And I suspect there are other ball strikers on this board who could help to straighten out us poor, struggling duffers.     

 

 


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:19 AM

I actually became a member at the local course this year.  Now I can tell my wife that I have a financial investment in me playing more.  The more I play, the less each round costs.

 

My goal is to actually go out and play over my noon hour some some days.  Yesterday I actually played 9 holes in about 50 minutes.  Hopefully just being out there and having a club in my hand will help me improve in certain parts of my game.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:26 AM

I always enjoy our golf discussions, NUance. 

 

I've been bitten by the golf bug lately.  I'd really like to step my game up to the point where I can count on playing a respectable round, say, in the mid 80s on the course where I regularly play (par 70 with a 70.7 course rating and a slope of 123).  That means I'll need to get to a handicap of around 14.  Right now I'm probly around 20.  (There, I said it.  My golf game is in the shitter right now.  Oh the shame!  LOL)  The best I've ever been is around 16.5, and that was several years ago.

 

How much do you get to practice? More than any other sport, golf takes a good amount of time and discipline. A lot of people complain about lack of time, but I think it is more lack of discipline when it comes to practicing. Everyone wants to hit the driver. From my time at the range, I would guess most bogey golfers spend 75% of their time with driver in hand when they go to "practice." I would tell them to spend 75% of the time on the putting/chipping green. The best part, it is free! 

 

I am certainly not implying that is your issue, NUance. I don't mean for it to come off that way. I think you would need to play a few rounds and take an honest assessment of your game. Don't only keep track of your score. Keep track of whether your hit the FW, had a "good miss," or had to take a penalty/punch out; keep track of putts, including how far your first one was; keep track of how many balls were hit in the hazards. That quick exercise, which can be easily tracked on the normal scorecard, will give you a ton of information that will help focus your practice.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:28 AM

I actually became a member at the local course this year.  Now I can tell my wife that I have a financial investment in me playing more.  The more I play, the less each round costs.

 

My goal is to actually go out and play over my noon hour some some days.  Yesterday I actually played 9 holes in about 50 minutes.  Hopefully just being out there and having a club in my hand will help me improve in certain parts of my game.

 

Joining a golf club helped my game immensely. I love being able to go hit a small-medium bucket over my lunch out. Usually, I will just take a LW, PW, and 8i. It has really refined my game with a "scoring club" in hand. I also try to make it out after work as much as possible. It is great to be able to get to the course around 6:00, hit a few balls, and go play 6-9-12 holes before dark. Usually no one is out there!


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:36 AM

I always enjoy our golf discussions, NUance. 

 

I've been bitten by the golf bug lately.  I'd really like to step my game up to the point where I can count on playing a respectable round, say, in the mid 80s on the course where I regularly play (par 70 with a 70.7 course rating and a slope of 123).  That means I'll need to get to a handicap of around 14.  Right now I'm probly around 20.  (There, I said it.  My golf game is in the shitter right now.  Oh the shame!  LOL)  The best I've ever been is around 16.5, and that was several years ago.

 

How much do you get to practice? More than any other sport, golf takes a good amount of time and discipline. A lot of people complain about lack of time, but I think it is more lack of discipline when it comes to practicing. Everyone wants to hit the driver. From my time at the range, I would guess most bogey golfers spend 75% of their time with driver in hand when they go to "practice." I would tell them to spend 75% of the time on the putting/chipping green. The best part, it is free! 

 

I am certainly not implying that is your issue, NUance. I don't mean for it to come off that way. I think you would need to play a few rounds and take an honest assessment of your game. Don't only keep track of your score. Keep track of whether your hit the FW, had a "good miss," or had to take a penalty/punch out; keep track of putts, including how far your first one was; keep track of how many balls were hit in the hazards. That quick exercise, which can be easily tracked on the normal scorecard, will give you a ton of information that will help focus your practice.

 

Joining a golf club helped my game immensely. I love being able to go hit a small-medium bucket over my lunch out. Usually, I will just take a LW, PW, and 8i. It has really refined my game with a "scoring club" in hand. I also try to make it out after work as much as possible. It is great to be able to get to the course around 6:00, hit a few balls, and go play 6-9-12 holes before dark. Usually no one is out there!

 

 

Yeah, I'd say you hit the nail on the head.  I've been a member of a golf club for 6 years now.  But up to this point I've only played five or six rounds per year.  Last summer I joined a weekly scramble league.  But I injured my foot in July and missed the second half of league play.  That, and playing in a scramble isn't really like playing a round of golf for score.  

 

That foot injury last summer may have actually helped my golf game out.  I couldn't take a full swing for about six weeks, so I spent much of that time messing around the practice greens.  I've actually developed an interest in my short game, and I spend a lot more time chipping, putting and practicing short pitch shots than I used to.  Really I have no excuse for not practicing.  The course is four blocks from my house.  It has two practice greens, and a free driving range with unlimited balls.  (Irons only.  The range is only about 200 yards long.)   :lol:


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:41 AM

I actually became a member at the local course this year.  Now I can tell my wife that I have a financial investment in me playing more.  The more I play, the less each round costs.

 

My goal is to actually go out and play over my noon hour some some days.  Yesterday I actually played 9 holes in about 50 minutes.  Hopefully just being out there and having a club in my hand will help me improve in certain parts of my game.

 

I love that idea!  I could probly pull that off toothe occasional noon nineif I was a bit more disciplined with my time.  


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:44 AM

Solid advice Q. I'm not even close to a good golfer, but my game has improved tremendously over the past year with increased play and self assessment. I started with my drive, and have been able to eliminate my slice the majority of the time. Now I need to focus on not dipping my shoulder from time to time. My intermediate game is pretty good, it just needs consistency and better accuracy. But like you said the short game is the most critical part of any game. Last time out it cost me about 3 or 4 pars. Of course my excuse was it's hard to get a feel for putting when the grass is all dried out from winter.

Any advice on chipping? That seems to be where I struggle the most.
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Posted 31 March 2015 - 09:47 AM

If you guys have an open course and are playing by yourself, play two balls for every approach and play them out. Say you have a par four, hit one drive. If you have 150 yards left, hit a full 9i and a knock-down 8i, and finish those out for a score. You're game will improve drastically, it takes little extra time, and you might find you strike the ball better with an abbreviated swing. 

 

An even more sadistic game is a "worst ball scramble" by yourself. Hit two from every location, but play the worst one. Basically, the opposite of your charity scramble, by yourself. Even if you hit a 30 footer for birdie, you have to make it again! Tiger would play that against Hank Haney when they would play together. Tiger would routinely beat Hank, who said we was at or just over par. That is insane! I don't recommend that for everyone!  :ahhhhhhhh


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 12:13 PM

Last time I played, last season, with my back issues the torque from my swing really caused me some serious back pain. By the time I finished the 18 holes I couldn't swing like I'd like to so I have some perspective where Tiger is coming from and his torque and club head speed are way more than mine. And it'll sound like I'm talking myself up and that's not my intention, but as I've gotten into more serious weight lifting the muscle mass I've put on through my chest, shoulders and arms has caused my golf game to go the wrong way. It's damn near impossible for me to keep my arms in the position I want them to stay in due to muscle mass. Another problem that some of the experts have said that Tiger should've never gotten into weight lifting as heavy as he has and this has caused issues with his swings. I use to be a low 80's to mid 70's player, now I'm more in the 90's with an occasional mid to high 80's round. But, I'll admit I don't play/practice as much as I should so that could very well be my problem as well.  


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 12:29 PM

If you guys have an open course and are playing by yourself, play two balls for every approach and play them out. Say you have a par four, hit one drive. If you have 150 yards left, hit a full 9i and a knock-down 8i, and finish those out for a score. You're game will improve drastically, it takes little extra time, and you might find you strike the ball better with an abbreviated swing. 

 

An even more sadistic game is a "worst ball scramble" by yourself. Hit two from every location, but play the worst one. Basically, the opposite of your charity scramble, by yourself. Even if you hit a 30 footer for birdie, you have to make it again! Tiger would play that against Hank Haney when they would play together. Tiger would routinely beat Hank, who said we was at or just over par. That is insane! I don't recommend that for everyone!  :ahhhhhhhh

Thats a great idea.  Problem is, if I hit a 9 iron from 150 out, I would then still need a wedge into the green from 20 yards out.   :facepalm:

 

It's a great idea if you have time.  When I go out at noon I do what I call speed golf.  I'm the only one on the course, when I hit I put one club in and take one out.  I know the course well enough to pretty much know what I will need.  Usually I don't need to change when I find my ball.  Then, if it's within 5 feet it's a pick.  Doing that, I can play a par 4 in about 5 minutes.  I don't keep score other than just think in my head of what I got on that hole.

 

What I do find by doing that every once in a while is it actually helps my game.  Sometimes I find that I over think shots.  If I get in a tempo like I described, I don't over think and just step up and hit the shot.

 

Then, when I actually play a normal game, I think about that and try to use that tempo and sometimes it helps me score better.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 12:47 PM

Solid advice Q. I'm not even close to a good golfer, but my game has improved tremendously over the past year with increased play and self assessment. I started with my drive, and have been able to eliminate my slice the majority of the time. Now I need to focus on not dipping my shoulder from time to time. My intermediate game is pretty good, it just needs consistency and better accuracy. But like you said the short game is the most critical part of any game. Last time out it cost me about 3 or 4 pars. Of course my excuse was it's hard to get a feel for putting when the grass is all dried out from winter.

Any advice on chipping? That seems to be where I struggle the most.

There are many theories on how to become a chipper.  Some say to use the same club for every chip, and you just develop the touch needed with that club.  Others say to take a lofted enough club to just get the ball on the green, and let the ball roll like a put the rest of the way.  Also, a great way to become a better "chipper" is to become a better "putter".  If you can start making more putts in the 5-10 foot range, it will put less pressure on yourself to get the chip within tap-in range.

 

I guess I am lucky in that I actually have a decent short game.  I don't play enough rounds per year, so my ball-striking is is pretty inconsistent.  This causes me to scramble quite a bit around the greens.

 

Also, an very key part of having a good short game is the type of ball you play.  If you play cheap balls like Top-Flites or Pinnacles, those balls are like rocks and you aren't going to have good touch around the greens.  The more expensive golf balls generally spin more in the short game and are easier to control with chips and pitches.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:10 PM

My game has been very interesting for me the last couple years. Had shoulder surgery in Nov. 2013 and when I was recovered from that found that I had lost about a half club of distance from each iron in my bag. That doesn't bother me at all. But I did find that my short game was way out of tune when I came back. I didn't  get to make it to the course as much as I would have liked to last summer.

 

This year had shoulder surgery (same shoulder) in January and I'm really wanting to get to the practice greens to help myself out. Always been a pretty strong putter just have never been good from 20-50 yds out. Course I grew up on you were able to hit a regular lofted chip into every green because they were so slow. I've had a hard time picking up how to hit the bump and run or the low pitch shots that take 1-2 bounces and stop. 

 

Always had a classic "baseball" player swing too. So while things may look ugly from the tee/mid iron shots that's one area that I usually don't struggle with.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:12 PM

I use a 56 degree sand wedge up to 90 yards out for all my chips. Why? Because it seems when I use a pitching wedge I have a tendency to top it and scorch across the green. I may not get as close with the sand wedge as I'd like, but with the height I get with my shot I can get a little riskier with things and know I'll probably be okay because I'm not going to have much travel. This is where I make up my shots that I'm screwing up in the fairway. Don't ask me to hit a fairway wood anywhere, but off the tee. I'm so inconsistent with those damn things it's irritating. If I'm not hitting my driver well in the first few holes I put it away and grab my 3 or 5 wood and I usually hit dead straight with those. 3 or 4 iron in the fairway, I'll usually hit those 200 + yards without much problem and usually hit those pretty straight. It's hard not to take risks out on the course, but I'm trying to get smarter as I age and play. 


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:34 PM

My game has been very interesting for me the last couple years. Had shoulder surgery in Nov. 2013 and when I was recovered from that found that I had lost about a half club of distance from each iron in my bag. That doesn't bother me at all. But I did find that my short game was way out of tune when I came back. I didn't  get to make it to the course as much as I would have liked to last summer.

 

This year had shoulder surgery (same shoulder) in January and I'm really wanting to get to the practice greens to help myself out. Always been a pretty strong putter just have never been good from 20-50 yds out. Course I grew up on you were able to hit a regular lofted chip into every green because they were so slow. I've had a hard time picking up how to hit the bump and run or the low pitch shots that take 1-2 bounces and stop. 

 

Always had a classic "baseball" player swing too. So while things may look ugly from the tee/mid iron shots that's one area that I usually don't struggle with.

It doesn't matter how you take a backswing.  It only matters if the club is square at impact, and whether you can repeat that well enough with your swing.

 

I have never had a lesson in my life, other than a golf pro fixed my grip while I was in college.  Other than that, I would call myself a "feel" player.  I pick up things from TV shows and magazines and may try to incorporate it, but I really just swing the golf club how I like to swing it and how it feels good to me.  I am not great, but I am not terrible.  I am generally happy with the way I play, considering I don't play all that often any more.

 

I think so many golfers try to be too "technical" with their swing and they don't own their individual swing.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:37 PM

 

My game has been very interesting for me the last couple years. Had shoulder surgery in Nov. 2013 and when I was recovered from that found that I had lost about a half club of distance from each iron in my bag. That doesn't bother me at all. But I did find that my short game was way out of tune when I came back. I didn't  get to make it to the course as much as I would have liked to last summer.

 

This year had shoulder surgery (same shoulder) in January and I'm really wanting to get to the practice greens to help myself out. Always been a pretty strong putter just have never been good from 20-50 yds out. Course I grew up on you were able to hit a regular lofted chip into every green because they were so slow. I've had a hard time picking up how to hit the bump and run or the low pitch shots that take 1-2 bounces and stop. 

 

Always had a classic "baseball" player swing too. So while things may look ugly from the tee/mid iron shots that's one area that I usually don't struggle with.

It doesn't matter how you take a backswing.  It only matters if the club is square at impact, and whether you can repeat that well enough with your swing.

 

I have never had a lesson in my life, other than a golf pro fixed my grip while I was in college.  Other than that, I would call myself a "feel" player.  I pick up things from TV shows and magazines and may try to incorporate it, but I really just swing the golf club how I like to swing it and how it feels good to me.  I am not great, but I am not terrible.  I am generally happy with the way I play, considering I don't play all that often any more.

 

I have always had a problem with keeping the club head square at impact. I really have to focus on keeping my hips more still and almost over exaggerating getting my hands through impact. When my game is on I have a cut that I can pretty much hit anywhere and can control real nice. Never been able to hit a draw in my life. 


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:40 PM

 

 

My game has been very interesting for me the last couple years. Had shoulder surgery in Nov. 2013 and when I was recovered from that found that I had lost about a half club of distance from each iron in my bag. That doesn't bother me at all. But I did find that my short game was way out of tune when I came back. I didn't  get to make it to the course as much as I would have liked to last summer.

 

This year had shoulder surgery (same shoulder) in January and I'm really wanting to get to the practice greens to help myself out. Always been a pretty strong putter just have never been good from 20-50 yds out. Course I grew up on you were able to hit a regular lofted chip into every green because they were so slow. I've had a hard time picking up how to hit the bump and run or the low pitch shots that take 1-2 bounces and stop. 

 

Always had a classic "baseball" player swing too. So while things may look ugly from the tee/mid iron shots that's one area that I usually don't struggle with.

It doesn't matter how you take a backswing.  It only matters if the club is square at impact, and whether you can repeat that well enough with your swing.

 

I have never had a lesson in my life, other than a golf pro fixed my grip while I was in college.  Other than that, I would call myself a "feel" player.  I pick up things from TV shows and magazines and may try to incorporate it, but I really just swing the golf club how I like to swing it and how it feels good to me.  I am not great, but I am not terrible.  I am generally happy with the way I play, considering I don't play all that often any more.

 

I have always had a problem with keeping the club head square at impact. I really have to focus on keeping my hips more still and almost over exaggerating getting my hands through impact. When my game is on I have a cut that I can pretty much hit anywhere and can control real nice. Never been able to hit a draw in my life. 

 

A slight fade is the easiest shot to control on a consistent basis.  I get annoyed with guys like Hank Haney who abhor the fade.  Jack Nicklaus preferred playing a fade, and Tiger was at his best when he played a fade under Butch Harmon.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 01:47 PM

 

 

 

My game has been very interesting for me the last couple years. Had shoulder surgery in Nov. 2013 and when I was recovered from that found that I had lost about a half club of distance from each iron in my bag. That doesn't bother me at all. But I did find that my short game was way out of tune when I came back. I didn't  get to make it to the course as much as I would have liked to last summer.

 

This year had shoulder surgery (same shoulder) in January and I'm really wanting to get to the practice greens to help myself out. Always been a pretty strong putter just have never been good from 20-50 yds out. Course I grew up on you were able to hit a regular lofted chip into every green because they were so slow. I've had a hard time picking up how to hit the bump and run or the low pitch shots that take 1-2 bounces and stop. 

 

Always had a classic "baseball" player swing too. So while things may look ugly from the tee/mid iron shots that's one area that I usually don't struggle with.

It doesn't matter how you take a backswing.  It only matters if the club is square at impact, and whether you can repeat that well enough with your swing.

 

I have never had a lesson in my life, other than a golf pro fixed my grip while I was in college.  Other than that, I would call myself a "feel" player.  I pick up things from TV shows and magazines and may try to incorporate it, but I really just swing the golf club how I like to swing it and how it feels good to me.  I am not great, but I am not terrible.  I am generally happy with the way I play, considering I don't play all that often any more.

 

I have always had a problem with keeping the club head square at impact. I really have to focus on keeping my hips more still and almost over exaggerating getting my hands through impact. When my game is on I have a cut that I can pretty much hit anywhere and can control real nice. Never been able to hit a draw in my life. 

 

A slight fade is the easiest shot to control on a consistent basis.  I get annoyed with guys like Hank Haney who abhor the fade.  Jack Nicklaus preferred playing a fade, and Tiger was at his best when he played a fade under Butch Harmon.

 

Yea never understood why people don't like hitting a fade. Just doesn't make sense. Even if I could chose to hit a draw every shot I would stick with the fade. Fits my eye more so than a draw would and I've found that hitting a cut lands softer on approach shots from 130-170 yds out. 


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 02:25 PM

It doesn't matter how you take a backswing.  It only matters if the club is square at impact, and whether you can repeat that well enough with your swing.

I don't necessarily agree with that. If your club is square (to the target) at impact, unless your path is perfect, it will be curving away from your target. To hit a fade that finishes at your target, your clubface actually has to be closed to the target at impact. 


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 02:45 PM

If you guys have an open course and are playing by yourself, play two balls for every approach and play them out. Say you have a par four, hit one drive. If you have 150 yards left, hit a full 9i and a knock-down 8i, and finish those out for a score. You're game will improve drastically, it takes little extra time, and you might find you strike the ball better with an abbreviated swing. 

 

An even more sadistic game is a "worst ball scramble" by yourself. Hit two from every location, but play the worst one. Basically, the opposite of your charity scramble, by yourself. Even if you hit a 30 footer for birdie, you have to make it again! Tiger would play that against Hank Haney when they would play together. Tiger would routinely beat Hank, who said we was at or just over par. That is insane! I don't recommend that for everyone!  :ahhhhhhhh

 

Great idea.  When I am out by myself, I usually play one ball from the blue (back) tees and one ball from the white tees all the way around.  If I don't have to wait on anyone, I can play "18 holes" in about an hour and 15 minutes.  Depending on how many times I have to hop back and forth across the fairway.   :wacko:

 

Haven't tried the worst ball scramble yet but it's on my list.  Read somewhere last year that you should play a "regular" scramble with yourself then play a worst ball scramble.  Would be interesting to see how good you can play if you hit better shots more consistently and then see how much those bad shots are costing you.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 02:49 PM

 

It doesn't matter how you take a backswing.  It only matters if the club is square at impact, and whether you can repeat that well enough with your swing.

I don't necessarily agree with that. If your club is square (to the target) at impact, unless your path is perfect, it will be curving away from your target. To hit a fade that finishes at your target, your clubface actually has to be closed to the target at impact. 

 

I guess my term of "square at impact" is a relative term.  Yes, the club will be slightly open or closed depending what type of swing path you are taking.  The most important part of the golf swing is getting a repeatable swing path that you can consistently play with.  The "square at impact" term is that the face of the club is square to the path you want the ball to start off with.  A "square club face" enables the most consistent contact with the ball.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 03:17 PM

Bill Murray improvised every one of his lines in Caddyshack.
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Posted 31 March 2015 - 03:21 PM

Bill Murray improvised every one of his lines in Caddyshack.

 
 

What an incredible Cinderella story, this unknown comes outta no where to lead the pack, at Augusta. He's on his final hole, he's about 455 yards away - he's gonna hit about a two-iron I think. Oh he got all of that one! The crowd is standing on its feet here, the normally reserved Augusta crowd - going wild - for this young Cinderella, he's come outta no where, he's got about 350 yards left, he's gonna hit about a five-iron, don't you think? He's got a beautiful backswing - that's - Oh he got all of that one! He's gotta be pleased with that, the crowd is just on its feet here, uh - He's the Cinderella boy, uh - tears in his eyes I guess as he lines up this last shot, he's got about 195 yards left, he's got about a - its looks like he's got about an eight-iron. This crowd has gone deathly silent, the Cinderella story, outta no where, a former greenskeeper now - about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac - It's in the Hole! 

You ever notice the yardages that Cinderella Boy is hitting those irons? Funny stuff. :lol:
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Posted 31 March 2015 - 03:22 PM

Have you guys played Wild Horse in Gothenburg? I have played a few PGA Tour and major championship venues, and Wild Horse is one of my top-five favorite courses.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 03:36 PM

Have you guys played Wild Horse in Gothenburg? I have played a few PGA Tour and major championship venues, and Wild Horse is one of my top-five favorite courses.

I met a few friends from Omaha, and we "Played the West".  We only played the courses at Ogalalla/McConaughy and Wild Horse.  We played 36 at Wild Horse on Sunday, and another 18 on Monday.

 

I LOVED Wild Horse.  It is such a fun course to play, and it was in amazing shape.  I think some of my friends have gone back there and played again, but I haven't.  I would love to go back there and play.  Too bad there isn't really anything to do in Gothenburg after the golf is done.

 

Wild Horse was designed by Bill Coore, who is Ben Crenshaw's design partner.  They are more well-known for the Sand Hills Club and the renovation at Pinehurst #2 for last year's US Open. 


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 04:44 PM

 

Bill Murray improvised every one of his lines in Caddyshack.

 
 

What an incredible Cinderella story, this unknown comes outta no where to lead the pack, at Augusta. He's on his final hole, he's about 455 yards away - he's gonna hit about a two-iron I think. Oh he got all of that one! The crowd is standing on its feet here, the normally reserved Augusta crowd - going wild - for this young Cinderella, he's come outta no where, he's got about 350 yards left, he's gonna hit about a five-iron, don't you think? He's got a beautiful backswing - that's - Oh he got all of that one! He's gotta be pleased with that, the crowd is just on its feet here, uh - He's the Cinderella boy, uh - tears in his eyes I guess as he lines up this last shot, he's got about 195 yards left, he's got about a - its looks like he's got about an eight-iron. This crowd has gone deathly silent, the Cinderella story, outta no where, a former greenskeeper now - about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac - It's in the Hole! 

You ever notice the yardages that Cinderella Boy is hitting those irons? Funny stuff. :lol:

 

Poor first shot.


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Posted 31 March 2015 - 06:18 PM

Bill Murray improvised every one of his lines in Caddyshack.

 
 

What an incredible Cinderella story, this unknown comes outta no where to lead the pack, at Augusta. He's on his final hole, he's about 455 yards away - he's gonna hit about a two-iron I think. Oh he got all of that one! The crowd is standing on its feet here, the normally reserved Augusta crowd - going wild - for this young Cinderella, he's come outta no where, he's got about 350 yards left, he's gonna hit about a five-iron, don't you think? He's got a beautiful backswing - that's - Oh he got all of that one! He's gotta be pleased with that, the crowd is just on its feet here, uh - He's the Cinderella boy, uh - tears in his eyes I guess as he lines up this last shot, he's got about 195 yards left, he's got about a - its looks like he's got about an eight-iron. This crowd has gone deathly silent, the Cinderella story, outta no where, a former greenskeeper now - about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac - It's in the Hole! 

You ever notice the yardages that Cinderella Boy is hitting those irons? Funny stuff. :lol:

Poor first shot.

And that 155 yard five iron wasn't anything to brag about. But, boy can he hit that eight iron! :lol:
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Posted 31 March 2015 - 06:38 PM

I feel like my problem changes daily with golf.over the past year I have developed a nasty snap hook off the tees and even some of my irons. I think it might be that the ball is to far forward in my stance, but I'm not sure.

I also hit the ball way to hard. I don't know how to use my irons effectively for their proper distance. If I'm 150 out, it's a 54 degree wedge. But if I'm 200 out, I'll use a 5 iron. I have some serious inconsistencies.
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Posted 01 April 2015 - 08:32 AM

I was just talking about Tiger's "game" yesterday. From Rosaforte's Golf Channel report today:

 

"The best example of the progress Tiger made over the last two-to-three weeks is the worst-ball 66 he shot at Medalist Golf Club. That's where he takes the worst of two drives, the worst of the two approach shots, the putt that's either furthest away from the hole or the chip that's furthest away from the hole. And then if he makes birdie he has to validate. So if he makes a 10-footer for birdie he has to make another 10-footer for birdie. To go around that golf course, shoot six under in those conditions where you can't hide, obviously, you can't hide a weakness, and you think about the course record he shot there — 62 in 2011 — this round could conceivably be considered better."

 

66. SIXTY-SIX! Worst ball. That is mind-boggling. 


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 08:49 AM

I feel like my problem changes daily with golf.over the past year I have developed a nasty snap hook off the tees and even some of my irons. I think it might be that the ball is to far forward in my stance, but I'm not sure.

I also hit the ball way to hard. I don't know how to use my irons effectively for their proper distance. If I'm 150 out, it's a 54 degree wedge. But if I'm 200 out, I'll use a 5 iron. I have some serious inconsistencies.

I am not a golf pro, but it sounds like you really de-loft your club at impact.  I am not sure if that's a result of you swinging too hard or playing the ball too forward in your stance.  Hitting a 54-degree wedge 150 yards is hitting it a long way, and when your club impacts the ball, the club may actually be at a 44 degree impact.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 08:56 AM

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Tour PW average loft is probably 47 degrees. 


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:05 AM

 

Have you guys played Wild Horse in Gothenburg? I have played a few PGA Tour and major championship venues, and Wild Horse is one of my top-five favorite courses.

I met a few friends from Omaha, and we "Played the West".  We only played the courses at Ogalalla/McConaughy and Wild Horse.  We played 36 at Wild Horse on Sunday, and another 18 on Monday.

 

I LOVED Wild Horse.  It is such a fun course to play, and it was in amazing shape.  I think some of my friends have gone back there and played again, but I haven't.  I would love to go back there and play.  Too bad there isn't really anything to do in Gothenburg after the golf is done.

 

Wild Horse was designed by Bill Coore, who is Ben Crenshaw's design partner.  They are more well-known for the Sand Hills Club and the renovation at Pinehurst #2 for last year's US Open. 

 

I live close enough that I play it at least a couple times a year.

 

Love that course.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:09 AM

I was just talking about Tiger's "game" yesterday. From Rosaforte's Golf Channel report today:

 

"The best example of the progress Tiger made over the last two-to-three weeks is the worst-ball 66 he shot at Medalist Golf Club. That's where he takes the worst of two drives, the worst of the two approach shots, the putt that's either furthest away from the hole or the chip that's furthest away from the hole. And then if he makes birdie he has to validate. So if he makes a 10-footer for birdie he has to make another 10-footer for birdie. To go around that golf course, shoot six under in those conditions where you can't hide, obviously, you can't hide a weakness, and you think about the course record he shot there — 62 in 2011 — this round could conceivably be considered better."

 

66. SIXTY-SIX! Worst ball. That is mind-boggling. 

Wow...that's interesting.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:27 AM

Re: Wild Horse GC

 

The last two years, I have played in a two-man tournament in Central Nebraska. It is one of my favorite weekends of the year, and I can't wait for it again this fall. It has been scheduled during a Nebraska away or creampuff non-conference game. It is hosted by Awarii Dunes (Kearney) and Wild Horse (Gothenburg). First day is a two-man scramble, and the second day is two-man best ball. There are prizes for gross and net with 2-3 flights. They serve lunch/dinner at each venue. It is a blast! I will try to remember to post again when the date is released. I heavily recommend it to all golfers. We usually stay in Kearney and go out at night to watch the Huskers game. Two years ago, I ran into Brett Maher.

 

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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:28 AM

 

I was just talking about Tiger's "game" yesterday. From Rosaforte's Golf Channel report today:
 

"The best example of the progress Tiger made over the last two-to-three weeks is the worst-ball 66 he shot at Medalist Golf Club. That's where he takes the worst of two drives, the worst of the two approach shots, the putt that's either furthest away from the hole or the chip that's furthest away from the hole. And then if he makes birdie he has to validate. So if he makes a 10-footer for birdie he has to make another 10-footer for birdie. To go around that golf course, shoot six under in those conditions where you can't hide, obviously, you can't hide a weakness, and you think about the course record he shot there — 62 in 2011 — this round could conceivably be considered better."


 
66. SIXTY-SIX! Worst ball. That is mind-boggling.

 

Wow...that's interesting.

 


I'm still a bit skeptical that Tiger is back. Maybe. But I'll need to see the Thursday scorecard from the Masters first.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:30 AM

Re: Wild Horse GC

 

The last two years, I have played in a two-man tournament in Central Nebraska. It is one of my favorite weekends of the year, and I can't wait for it again this fall. It has been scheduled during a Nebraska away or creampuff non-conference game. It is hosted by Awarii Dunes (Kearney) and Wild Horse (Gothenburg). First day is a two-man scramble, and the second day is two-man best ball. There are prizes for gross and net with 2-3 flights. They serve lunch/dinner at each venue. It is a blast! I will try to remember to post again when the date is released. I heavily recommend it to all golfers. We usually stay in Kearney and go out at night to watch the Huskers game. Two years ago, I ran into Brett Maher.

I've thought about playing in this but the schedule just doesn't work out.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:38 AM

Re: Wild Horse GC

 

A few of the courses I have been fortunate enough to play:

  • Sand Hills 
  • Kiawah - Ocean Course 
  • Oak Tree National 
  • Bandon Dunes
  • Pacific Dunes
  • Bandon Trails
  • Old Macdonald
  • Prairie Dunes
  • Doral - Blue Monster
  • TPC Deere Run

Wild Horse is in my Top Five best/favorite courses I have played.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:47 AM

Re: Wild Horse GC

 

A few of the courses I have been fortunate enough to play:

  • Sand Hills 
  • Kiawah - Ocean Course 
  • Oak Tree National 
  • Bandon Dunes
  • Pacific Dunes
  • Bandon Trails
  • Old Macdonald
  • Prairie Dunes
  • Doral - Blue Monster
  • TPC Deere Run

Wild Horse is in my Top Five best/favorite courses I have played.

 

Oh yeah, well at the other end of the spectrum, have you ever played a course with sand greens?  Sand greens you ask?  Yes, "greens" that have sand instead of grass.  They even play a sand greens high school championship in Kansas.  LINK   There probly are some, but not many, left in Nebraska too.  :lol:


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then winter came and the grasshopper died. And the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?
 

 


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:52 AM

Oh yeah, well at the other end of the spectrum, have you ever played a course with sand greens?  

Hell yeah, I have! Baldwin City "Country Club" in Baldwin City, Kansas. During college, we would take 3-4 clubs and a backpack full of ice/beer and go play shirtless. Some people take sand greens really serious, they will rake them and actually putt. We would just call it a one-putt for anything within the flagstick and a two-putt for anything on sand. That reminds me, take me back to college! 

 

Picture from actual course:

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That barn houses the carts of locals. It also has the "register," where you insert $5 on the honor system. Don't worry, all students got free "memberships!"  :lol:


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 09:56 AM

 

Oh yeah, well at the other end of the spectrum, have you ever played a course with sand greens?  

Hell yeah, I have! Baldwin City "Country Club" in Baldwin City, Kansas. During college, we would take 3-4 clubs and a backpack full of ice/beer and go play shirtless. Some people take sand greens really serious, they will rake them and actually putt. We would just call it a one-putt for anything within the flagstick and a two-putt for anything on sand. That reminds me, take me back to college! 

 

Picture from actual course:

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That barn houses the carts of locals. It also has the "register," where you insert $5 on the honor system. Don't worry, all students got free "memberships!"  :lol:

 

 

" 3-4 clubs and a backpack full of ice/beer and go play shirtless ...  insert $5 on the honor system"  yep, THAT is how you play sand greens alright.   chuckleshuffle


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 10:33 AM

I used to play an honor system course luke that in alda, NE. It was nice to be able to work on the tan and swing some sticks.
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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:06 PM

Re: Wild Horse GC

 

A few of the courses I have been fortunate enough to play:

  • Sand Hills 
  • Kiawah - Ocean Course 
  • Oak Tree National 
  • Bandon Dunes
  • Pacific Dunes
  • Bandon Trails
  • Old Macdonald
  • Prairie Dunes
  • Doral - Blue Monster
  • TPC Deere Run

Wild Horse is in my Top Five best/favorite courses I have played.

Headed out to San Diego at the end of May and there is no way I'm leaving that place without playing Torrey Pines. Can't remember if it's the north or the south course that the US Open was played on but I will find a way to play that while I'm there. 


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:12 PM

 

Re: Wild Horse GC

 

A few of the courses I have been fortunate enough to play:

  • Sand Hills 
  • Kiawah - Ocean Course 
  • Oak Tree National 
  • Bandon Dunes
  • Pacific Dunes
  • Bandon Trails
  • Old Macdonald
  • Prairie Dunes
  • Doral - Blue Monster
  • TPC Deere Run

Wild Horse is in my Top Five best/favorite courses I have played.

Headed out to San Diego at the end of May and there is no way I'm leaving that place without playing Torrey Pines. Can't remember if it's the north or the south course that the US Open was played on but I will find a way to play that while I'm there. 

 

The South Course at TP is where they had the US Open, and I think they are going back in a few years.  It can be pretty hard to get on though.  The North Course is basically on the same property, and is easier to get on and less expensive to play.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:17 PM

 

 

Re: Wild Horse GC

 

A few of the courses I have been fortunate enough to play:

  • Sand Hills 
  • Kiawah - Ocean Course 
  • Oak Tree National 
  • Bandon Dunes
  • Pacific Dunes
  • Bandon Trails
  • Old Macdonald
  • Prairie Dunes
  • Doral - Blue Monster
  • TPC Deere Run
  • Wild Horse is in my Top Five best/favorite courses I have played.

Headed out to San Diego at the end of May and there is no way I'm leaving that place without playing Torrey Pines. Can't remember if it's the north or the south course that the US Open was played on but I will find a way to play that while I'm there. 

 

The South Course at TP is where they had the US Open, and I think they are going back in a few years.  It can be pretty hard to get on though.  The North Course is basically on the same property, and is easier to get on and less expensive to play.

 

That's what I was thinking it was. Im basically going to call this weekend and see what they have available while we're out there. I wouldn't mind paying what it costs to play that as I'm sure I won't be out there anytime soon. 


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:19 PM

 

Oh yeah, well at the other end of the spectrum, have you ever played a course with sand greens?  

Hell yeah, I have! Baldwin City "Country Club" in Baldwin City, Kansas. During college, we would take 3-4 clubs and a backpack full of ice/beer and go play shirtless. Some people take sand greens really serious, they will rake them and actually putt. We would just call it a one-putt for anything within the flagstick and a two-putt for anything on sand. That reminds me, take me back to college! 

 

Picture from actual course:

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That barn houses the carts of locals. It also has the "register," where you insert $5 on the honor system. Don't worry, all students got free "memberships!"  :lol:

 

Mullen Country Club....oh....long before Sandhills was built.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:20 PM

I played Grand Cypress in Orlando this winter.  Very very very nice.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 12:47 PM

I don't get out as much as I would like, and there are plenty of decent courses in the Denver area.  My favorite course in the area is called Riverdale Dunes.  It's a Pete Dye designed course on Adams County property, so the greens fees are very reasonable.  It's a links style course, with high grassy areas off the fairway.  It's a fun course, and a really easy walk.


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 04:38 PM

I actually became a member at the local course this year.  Now I can tell my wife that I have a financial investment in me playing more.  The more I play, the less each round costs.

 

My goal is to actually go out and play over my noon hour some some days.  Yesterday I actually played 9 holes in about 50 minutes.  Hopefully just being out there and having a club in my hand will help me improve in certain parts of my game.

 

Your noon golf post motivated me to head to the practice green these past two days!  I have two putters that I've liked at different times over the past several years.  So I've been trying out both of these putters to see which one I like the best right now.  Also, since I haven't been playing for the past six months I'm just now trying out several different clubs to see which ones I like in different situations around the green for chipping and short pitch shots.  

 

At present I use my 8-iron for chipping.  If the situation permits, I nearly always try a chip-and-run shot as my first choice for a ball sitting within a few yards of the green.  This little chip-and-run also seems to work well for me for balls sitting a ways back, but with a smooth collar of fairway leading up to the green that has a somewhat predictable roll.  At different times in the past I've used a 7-iron for chipping.  Also a 9-iron sometimes. 

 

For pitch shots that I need to stop fairly quickly I have a Vokey 56 degree wedge.  It has 14 degrees of bounce, so I plan on using it out of the sand as well.  (I just bought this club, so admittedly I'm not sure how well I can hit it yet.)

 

For other shots that I can't chip with an 8-iron I have a 52 degree Vokey wedge that I like.  It's useful for short chip shots where the green slopes away from me, since the ball tends not to roll quite as far.  I also like this 52 Vokey for anything between about 10 yards to 70 yards from the green, assuming I have a little bit of green to work with.   I've spent a fair amount of time in the past working on a little half swing shot with this 52 Vokey that flies about 45 yards in the air.  The practice facility where I play is perfect for practicing this shot.   

 

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The problem is, these past couple of days around the practice green I'm only getting up and down about one-fourth to one-third of the time.  And that's hitting five or six balls from about the same spot.  (/facepalm)  This percentage needs to get a LOT higher before I can card a decent round.  


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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then winter came and the grasshopper died. And the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?
 

 


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Posted 01 April 2015 - 06:20 PM

I played 9 today and it was really windy so I just tried to hit all irons as knock gown shots and actually did well.

The guy that instructs me the most tells me I should be hitting like that most of the time.
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Posted 01 April 2015 - 06:50 PM

Most people should, as their normal swing is often far too long.
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Posted 01 April 2015 - 10:36 PM

I had a fitting with a Titleist Tour Fitting Professional this afternoon. There is likely a 915H 21* hybrid in my near future. 


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