Landlord Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Offseason is boring as hell. A comment in the qb depth chart thread gave me the idea to start this. Obviously there is no science or equal ground to compare quarterbacks apples to apples, but I'm interested in how people would rank all of our starting quarterbacks over the last ten years. Feel free to do this with whatever criteria you want to in your head, and explain what that criteria is. Here's my list, which I'm mostly basing on my best guess at ultimate potential/ability, with no regards to injuries or situations that might have given certain guys legs up or kept them down from what they could have been in different scenarios: 1. Joe Ganz - wasn't perfect, a bit prone to turnovers at times, but his senior season was straight videogame-esque, and if it wasn't in the middle of the best year for quarterbacks ever in the best conference for quarterbacks ever, he would have been in contention for some serious hardware and recognition. He had the 3rd highest career passer rating among active quarterbacks when he was playing his senior season, behind only Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow. That's nuts. 2a. Zac Taylor - toughest kid I've ever seen play quarterback. Scary to think just how much uglier the Callahan era could have been without him - his progression from junior to senior years was tremendous, and while his numbers weren't all that elite, you don't become the Big XII Offensive Player of the Year by accident. 2b. Taylor Martinez - oh, what could have been. Taylor did absolutely everything he could within himself for this program, and broke his body in the process. Was voted the best offensive player in the conference, not by media, who don't know sh#t, but by the coaches that schemed against him. His freshman and junior seasons were filled with highs and lows, but the highs were really high, and a whole lot of fun. 4. Sam Keller - for some reason people have a sour taste in their mouth towards the guy, and it's not really warranted. What happened with that team was far from his fault, and despite the conspiracy theories (without any evidence) that he was handed the starting job over a supposedly more deserving Ganz, he was on pace to break Zac's numbers before going down with a broken collarbone (during a lights out performance against Texas). 5. Ron Kellogg III - kind of a Joe Ganz-lite. A guy that was just happy to be here, content being a career backup, when the football gods rewarded him with the spotlight for a little while. Played very surprisingly well considering his lack of physical attributes, and the reason we won two of our four closest games that season. 6. Zac Lee - if we're going on accomplishments Zac is lower, but if we're going on ability/potential he's probably higher in my opinion. Not quite sure where to put him, but he looked like he could have been the best pure passer we've ever had before having to struggle through a torn elbow for 75% of a season, and other undisclosed injuries the entirety of another. 7. Tommy Armstrong Jr - This is no intentional slight against Tommy at all, and while he's been fun to watch and is a fierce competitor, at the end of the day I just don't think he's shown anything great. Mediocre numbers, a good handful of ugly performances, another good handful of good ones, no great ones to my eyes. He's been decidedly average and hasn't improved much, but that can't all fall on his shoulders. He's a product of the staff that's been over him. 8. Cody Green - seems he ended up doing alright at Tulsa, but never gave any reason for true rational excitement here. Didn't have the best situation, but also was never going to be anything special. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Taylor Martinez Ganz Armstrong Lee Kellogg Keller Green 3 Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Taylor Martinez Ganz Armstrong Lee Kellogg Keller Green Same for me, except I'd put Martinez first and ZT second. Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't have a problem with your rankings other than with Tommy Armstrong. I say this simply because he has only finished his sophomore year of playing. You comparing him to players who have completed their careers and all 4-5 years of coaching and development. You even mention in Zac Taylor's case the big jump he made from Junior to Senior years. If Tommy keeps developing, he would be a very different player after his senior year than he is now. "IF" is a key word in that sentence and right now nobody knows if he will or won't develop. Quote Link to comment
DrunkOffPunch Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Martinez Ganz Taylor Armstrong Lee Kellogg Keller Green 2 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Taylor Martinez Ganz Armstrong Lee Kellogg Keller Green Same for me, except I'd put Martinez first and ZT second. I put Taylor ahead of Martinez because of Martinez's injuries. Would have been different otherwise. Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Taylor or Martinez - Different styles of QB, but both conference players of the year Ganz Lee Keller Kellogg Green I'll leave Tommy out for now as he still has time left. Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't have a problem with your rankings other than with Tommy Armstrong. I say this simply because he has only finished his sophomore year of playing. You comparing him to players who have completed their careers and all 4-5 years of coaching and development. You even mention in Zac Taylor's case the big jump he made from Junior to Senior years. If Tommy keeps developing, he would be a very different player after his senior year than he is now. "IF" is a key word in that sentence and right now nobody knows if he will or won't develop. In two years the list might look different. This is my list now. Quote Link to comment
Guy Chamberlin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 So many variables and considerations, but I'm looking at the list as if I'd have to pick a quarterback to play for Nebraska next season. So I'm pretty good with LOMS list in Post #1. But I'd still put the Work In Progress Tommy Armstrong above Ron Kellogg III and Zac Lee. Given those three guys, I think a majority of coaches would prefer to build an offense around Tommy. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Martinez2a Ganz2b TaylorKellerLee Armstrong6a Kellogg6b Green The top three were good for really different reasons. Martinez was the flashy big-play guy, Ganz was a jack-of-all-trades guy, while Taylor was the best pocket-passer we've had in 30 years. Keller has a bad name at Nebraska, but as a pocket passer he was fine, and I'd take another year of Keller before I'd take another year of Zac Lee. No offense to Zac - huge fan. Quote Link to comment
Joe_5700 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Only one of the QBs in the list was mentioned by national pundits for Heisman consideration. The others in the list never even came anywhere NEAR being mentioned in that list. Taylor Martinez by a wide, wide margin... 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't have a problem with your rankings other than with Tommy Armstrong. I say this simply because he has only finished his sophomore year of playing. You comparing him to players who have completed their careers and all 4-5 years of coaching and development. You even mention in Zac Taylor's case the big jump he made from Junior to Senior years. If Tommy keeps developing, he would be a very different player after his senior year than he is now. "IF" is a key word in that sentence and right now nobody knows if he will or won't develop. In two years the list might look different. This is my list now. And, I have no problem with that. Quote Link to comment
The Dude Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Taylor Ganz Martinez Armstrong Kellogg Lee Keller Green Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Frazier Crouch Frost Tagge oh nevermind. Quote Link to comment
True2tRA Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Taylor Ganz Martinez Armstrong Kellogg Keller Lee Green Quote Link to comment
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