zoogs Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better.That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. Mavric Edit: Sorry. I was afraid I was going to derail the thread and I did. Cleaning up my mess - split posts to separate thread. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Sounds like we might be looking for a Juco QB. Would have to be perfect fit, including mid year enrollee. Hopefully if this happens, POB understand that we do need some depth to the position and it's not a shot to unseat him. Quote Link to comment
eightlaces Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. Quote Link to comment
C N Red Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. Source? Link? Quote Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. Source? Link? Turns out Johnny is now a Saddleback College Gaucho. Here are his stat from this year. Not bad, but still just a smidgen below a 2:1 TD:INT ratio. http://www.saddlebackgauchos.com/sports/fball/2015-16/bios/stanton_johnny_sn7s?view=gamelog&pos=qb Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. At the risk of derailing this thread, his stats don't exactly look sub par. He's completing 62.6% of his passes. Accounting for almost 300 yards of total offense per game. Threw 3 picks the first game. Since then his TD/INT is 17/5. And they've won their last 8 games. Quote Link to comment
eightlaces Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. At the risk of derailing this thread, his stats don't exactly look sub par. He's completing 62.6% of his passes. Accounting for almost 300 yards of total offense per game. Threw 3 picks the first game. Since then his TD/INT is 17/5. And they've won their last 8 games. Saddleback isn't exactly in the realm of, for example, Butler Community College. It wouldn't be a JUCO that coaches would say, "Man, we've gotta get a pipeline to that place going!" if that makes sense. POB can complete every pass on the tree. Johnny's a great guy, but he's far too erratic, second guesses himself too much and that snowballs into panic. POB knows what he can do, does it extremely well and doesn't let the little stuff get to him. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. At the risk of derailing this thread, his stats don't exactly look sub par. He's completing 62.6% of his passes. Accounting for almost 300 yards of total offense per game. Threw 3 picks the first game. Since then his TD/INT is 17/5. And they've won their last 8 games. Saddleback isn't exactly in the realm of, for example, Butler Community College. It wouldn't be a JUCO that coaches would say, "Man, we've gotta get a pipeline to that place going!" if that makes sense. POB can complete every pass on the tree. Johnny's a great guy, but he's far too erratic, second guesses himself too much and that snowballs into panic. POB knows what he can do, does it extremely well and doesn't let the little stuff get to him. You've watched a bunch of his games this year? Quote Link to comment
FrankWheeler Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Stanton had almost exactly the same recruitment as O'Brien. Go back through and read his profile and tell me people weren't just as excited about this under the radar recruit that did great at the Elite 11. Posters were gushing about how fundamentally sound he was and he was the second coming of Tebow. Quote Link to comment
eightlaces Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. At the risk of derailing this thread, his stats don't exactly look sub par. He's completing 62.6% of his passes. Accounting for almost 300 yards of total offense per game. Threw 3 picks the first game. Since then his TD/INT is 17/5. And they've won their last 8 games. Saddleback isn't exactly in the realm of, for example, Butler Community College. It wouldn't be a JUCO that coaches would say, "Man, we've gotta get a pipeline to that place going!" if that makes sense. POB can complete every pass on the tree. Johnny's a great guy, but he's far too erratic, second guesses himself too much and that snowballs into panic. POB knows what he can do, does it extremely well and doesn't let the little stuff get to him. You've watched a bunch of his games this year? Actually, yes. Quote Link to comment
eightlaces Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Stanton had almost exactly the same recruitment as O'Brien. Go back through and read his profile and tell me people weren't just as excited about this under the radar recruit that did great at the Elite 11. Posters were gushing about how fundamentally sound he was and he was the second coming of Tebow. Mike Riley doesn't want Tebow. Bo Pelini shouldn't have wanted Tebow. Stanton hated being referred to as Tebow II. Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yep. Would be extremely surprising if a true freshman can grab the starting job. However, the #2 is wide open. And he can push Tommy enough to make him better. That was the hope with Johnny Stanton, too, just to be fair. POB is vastly superior to Stanton. Even at the JUCO level Stanton is subpar. At the risk of derailing this thread, his stats don't exactly look sub par. He's completing 62.6% of his passes. Accounting for almost 300 yards of total offense per game. Threw 3 picks the first game. Since then his TD/INT is 17/5. And they've won their last 8 games. Saddleback isn't exactly in the realm of, for example, Butler Community College. It wouldn't be a JUCO that coaches would say, "Man, we've gotta get a pipeline to that place going!" if that makes sense. POB can complete every pass on the tree. Johnny's a great guy, but he's far too erratic, second guesses himself too much and that snowballs into panic. POB knows what he can do, does it extremely well and doesn't let the little stuff get to him. You've watched a bunch of his games this year? Actually, yes. Which games has he looked that bad? Quote Link to comment
FrankWheeler Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Stanton had almost exactly the same recruitment as O'Brien. Go back through and read his profile and tell me people weren't just as excited about this under the radar recruit that did great at the Elite 11. Posters were gushing about how fundamentally sound he was and he was the second coming of Tebow. Mike Riley doesn't want Tebow. Bo Pelini shouldn't have wanted Tebow. Stanton hated being referred to as Tebow II. You are missing the point. And if you wouldn't take one of the best college players ever on your team you are out of your mind. Quote Link to comment
zeWilbur Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Stanton had almost exactly the same recruitment as O'Brien. Go back through and read his profile and tell me people weren't just as excited about this under the radar recruit that did great at the Elite 11. Posters were gushing about how fundamentally sound he was and he was the second coming of Tebow. Mike Riley doesn't want Tebow. Bo Pelini shouldn't have wanted Tebow. Stanton hated being referred to as Tebow II. You are missing the point. And if you wouldn't take one of the best college players ever on your team you are out of your mind. So you would take Tommy Frazier if you were running an 'air raid' offense? Quote Link to comment
FrankWheeler Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Bo Pelini wasn't running an 'air raid' offense. Tebow would have fit perfectly into the system that Beck was running. And actually yes I would take Tommy Frazier in any offense but in the one offense that you picked out, I wouldn't play him at QB. Quote Link to comment
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