OU to B1G? Media Friend Says There Are Talks

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The Big 12 could, and should, add BYU ColoradoSt. Houston and Boise State.

 

They should be doing that RIGHT NOW though. Not as a reactive move after more teams leave the conference.

[Swiv3D]

The Big 12 could, and should, add BYU ColoradoSt. Houston and Boise State.

 

They should be doing that RIGHT NOW though. Not as a reactive move after more teams leave the conference.

agree with all of that except for boise state. I think adding cincinnati would be a better move.

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As long as the Big 12 sits idly by and watches team leave they are doomed to crumble. Obviously there is some smoke to this OU thing, if a flame starts I would expect the Big 12 to finally get proactive.

[NUinID]

 

The Big 12 could, and should, add BYU ColoradoSt. Houston and Boise State.

 

They should be doing that RIGHT NOW though. Not as a reactive move after more teams leave the conference.

agree with all of that except for boise state. I think adding cincinnati would be a better move.

 

 

Why? I guess if you are thinking market share or getting into Ohio as the reason that is a consideration. The problem is that in Ohio no one cares about Cincinnati it is OSU all the way. In Idaho it is all about Boise St. you also have a budding built in rivalry with BYU.

[Swiv3D]

 

 

 

The Big 12 could, and should, add BYU ColoradoSt. Houston and Boise State.

 

They should be doing that RIGHT NOW though. Not as a reactive move after more teams leave the conference.

agree with all of that except for boise state. I think adding cincinnati would be a better move.

Why? I guess if you are thinking market share or getting into Ohio as the reason that is a consideration. The problem is that in Ohio no one cares about Cincinnati it is OSU all the way. In Idaho it is all about Boise St. you also have a budding built in rivalry with BYU.

yes but Cincinnati is like Houston in the way that it's market is like it's own separate world. If Cincinnati can continue to be good in basketball and get back to the way they were under Brian Kelly in football (yeah I know, it's a long shot) then more Cincinnatians will in theory become more interested in Cincinnati like they used to be.

 

I know that Ohio state will never be overcome as the favorite school in Ohio and the B1G will always rule there, but Cincinnati's metro of roughly 2,140,000 is a lot more appealing than idaho's entire population (roughly 1.63 million). Plus it gives the b12 another school nearby west Virginia.

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The Big 12 could, and should, add BYU ColoradoSt. Houston and Boise State.

 

They should be doing that RIGHT NOW though. Not as a reactive move after more teams leave the conference.

agree with all of that except for boise state. I think adding cincinnati would be a better move.

Why? I guess if you are thinking market share or getting into Ohio as the reason that is a consideration. The problem is that in Ohio no one cares about Cincinnati it is OSU all the way. In Idaho it is all about Boise St. you also have a budding built in rivalry with BYU.

yes but Cincinnati is like Houston in the way that it's market is like it's own separate world. If Cincinnati can continue to be good in basketball and get back to the way they were under Brian Kelly in football (yeah I know, it's a long shot) then more Cincinnatians will in theory become more interested in Cincinnati like they used to be.

 

I know that Ohio state will never be overcome as the favorite school in Ohio and the B1G will always rule there, but Cincinnati's metro of roughly 2,140,000 is a lot more appealing than idaho's entire population (roughly 1.63 million). Plus it gives the b12 another school nearby west Virginia.

 

 

That is fine then I would leave out CSU and add Cinci, BSU and BYU. The big problem with BYU is that it won't play Sunday games, but I don't think that is anything to hard to work out.

[Swiv3D]

 

 

 

 

 

The Big 12 could, and should, add BYU ColoradoSt. Houston and Boise State.

 

They should be doing that RIGHT NOW though. Not as a reactive move after more teams leave the conference.

agree with all of that except for boise state. I think adding cincinnati would be a better move.

Why? I guess if you are thinking market share or getting into Ohio as the reason that is a consideration. The problem is that in Ohio no one cares about Cincinnati it is OSU all the way. In Idaho it is all about Boise St. you also have a budding built in rivalry with BYU.

yes but Cincinnati is like Houston in the way that it's market is like it's own separate world. If Cincinnati can continue to be good in basketball and get back to the way they were under Brian Kelly in football (yeah I know, it's a long shot) then more Cincinnatians will in theory become more interested in Cincinnati like they used to be.

 

I know that Ohio state will never be overcome as the favorite school in Ohio and the B1G will always rule there, but Cincinnati's metro of roughly 2,140,000 is a lot more appealing than idaho's entire population (roughly 1.63 million). Plus it gives the b12 another school nearby west Virginia.

That is fine then I would leave out CSU and add Cinci, BSU and BYU. The big problem with BYU is that it won't play Sunday games, but I don't think that is anything to hard to work out.

true. Also doesn't BYU have its own network as well? If they do, I wonder how that would affect a future b12 network.

[RedDenver]

I think that if this domino falls it will be the last nail in the coffin for the Big 12. I mean how do they respond? They aren't keen on adding anyone.

 

Texas, Tech, Baylor and TCU to the Pac 12

 

Okie State I could see follow maybe, think an SEC offer is wishful thinking.

 

Kansas hopfefully would be OU's partner, if not they could end up in the ACC with KSU maybe.

 

ISU is screwed.

Pac12 schools are very unlikely to add religion-based institutions such as Baylor or TCU.

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I think that if this domino falls it will be the last nail in the coffin for the Big 12. I mean how do they respond? They aren't keen on adding anyone.Texas, Tech, Baylor and TCU to the Pac 12Okie State I could see follow maybe, think an SEC offer is wishful thinking.Kansas hopfefully would be OU's partner, if not they could end up in the ACC with KSU maybe.ISU is screwed.

Pac12 schools are very unlikely to add religion-based institutions such as Baylor or TCU.

That's why BYU is not in the Pac 12.

 

It boils down to: How tied to TCU and Baylor is Texas and how bad would the Pac 12 want Texas?

 

I could see Texas dumping them all for a Pac 12 invite. That would immediately kill the Big 12 and would put Texas in a nice position again as a premiere landing spot for in state recruits.

[Swiv3D]

 

 

I think that if this domino falls it will be the last nail in the coffin for the Big 12. I mean how do they respond? They aren't keen on adding anyone.Texas, Tech, Baylor and TCU to the Pac 12Okie State I could see follow maybe, think an SEC offer is wishful thinking.Kansas hopfefully would be OU's partner, if not they could end up in the ACC with KSU maybe.ISU is screwed.

Pac12 schools are very unlikely to add religion-based institutions such as Baylor or TCU.

That's why BYU is not in the Pac 12.

 

It boils down to: How tied to TCU and Baylor is Texas and how bad would the Pac 12 want Texas?

 

I could see Texas dumping them all for a Pac 12 invite. That would immediately kill the Big 12 and would put Texas in a nice position again as a premiere landing spot for in state recruits.

if that happened I would guess OU most likely follows them.

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I think that if this domino falls it will be the last nail in the coffin for the Big 12. I mean how do they respond? They aren't keen on adding anyone.Texas, Tech, Baylor and TCU to the Pac 12Okie State I could see follow maybe, think an SEC offer is wishful thinking.Kansas hopfefully would be OU's partner, if not they could end up in the ACC with KSU maybe.ISU is screwed.

Pac12 schools are very unlikely to add religion-based institutions such as Baylor or TCU.

That's why BYU is not in the Pac 12.

It boils down to: How tied to TCU and Baylor is Texas and how bad would the Pac 12 want Texas?

I could see Texas dumping them all for a Pac 12 invite. That would immediately kill the Big 12 and would put Texas in a nice position again as a premiere landing spot for in state recruits.

if that happened I would guess OU most likely follows them.

No, in this scenario OU leaves for the Big Ten so instead of rebuilding the conference Texas bails on them for the Pac 12.

[StPaulHusker]

Oklahoma and a Texas school is ideal for B1G expansion. More money there compared to OU and Kansas

[Stumpy1]

I would welcome OU and Texas to the B1G any day of the week.

[VectorVictor]

Oklahoma and a Texas school is ideal for B1G expansion. More money there compared to OU and Kansas

 

Except that Delaney is keen on making the B1G *THE* collegiate basketball conference of note, and adding Kansas would pretty much put an exclamation point on that. And unless you're talking Texass 'proper', then no...there's no Texas school that would overcome what Kansas can bring re: basketball.

 

And we know (as this has been covered in other threads on this board) that Kansas is willing to hop in bed with whomever provides a good deal and doesn't have to get state blessing (or K-State's blessing, for that matter). We know this from when Kansas almost went to the Big East back in 2010 when it looked like the Big XII was toast. Plus, the B1G has already done its homework on Kansas (per the OWH article), and likely isn't going to start from scratch if it doesn't have to.

 

As for Okie Lite, their legislature is going to be presented with a scenario of either Oklahoma being tethered to Okie Lite and being drug down in a flailing Big XII, or they can cut the cord and let Okie Lite sink or swim on its own, and allow Oklahoma follow its goal of improving its academic cache substantially--something the school President has stated as a goal for the University and one that a move to the B1G would help facilitate.

 

As for the GOR that is likely preventing this from happening already, a media friend of mine pointed out if there's no Big XII, then there's no GOR. If Oklahoma, Texas (Pac-12), and Kansas all have homes, and they help find homes in the AAC or Mountain West for enough schools to get a majority (e.g. Iowa State, K-State, Tech), then there will be enough votes there to dissolve the conference, and the GOR is gone.

 

Kinda underhanded, I know...but then again, the Big XII was nothing but the SWC II--Electric Boogaloo from its inception and how the conference handled itself.

 

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Someone just forwarded me a tweet where FrankTheTank also said that OU to the B1G is very likely, but suggests that FSU to the B1G would be a welcome grab. Don't know how realistic that is with the ACC's moves of late...but if they legally break the GOR (instead of dissolving the conference), then it's a moot point.

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^well said