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While valuable time was lost, there is still plenty of time to make up ground. A good showing on the field could do alot for us down the stretch. We started out on fire with the '18 cycle but lost pretty much all of those big time commits and we still ended up well. I have faith in this staffs closing ability. 

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19 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

The discussion in the new OT offer’s thread does bring me back to why I was a little hesitant about Frost coaching through the bowl game. The staff hit the ground running and obviously had plans and back-up plans as evidenced by the JUCO guys they targeted. They really did a dynamite job all things considered to close out the 2018 recruiting class. Only regret is that we didn’t sign that JUCO OLB who signed with Tennessee as I think he was an immediate impact player.

 

But those last couple months are vital to the 2019 recruiting class as well. It’s an important time to set up the board and figure out the plan for the next year, and I think our staff was a little bit behind the 8 ball because they had so much 2018 recruiting to still handle. Not trying to be pessimistic or say that the sky is falling or anything like that. We will see how this cycle goes, I figure some of it will be tied to how we look in the season.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with you.  It definitely wasn't ideal.

 

But it also helped us in recruiting as well.  There have been a ton of comments about "seeing what they did at UCF" and "impressed that they stuck around" so I still think it was an overall net gain but that doesn't mean it was perfect.

 

I think the biggest hurdle we're facing right now is the big guys want to play for conference championships and playoff appearances.  They don't want to play for 4-8 teams.  So it's going to take some on-field results to start really drawing the higher-rated guys our way.  Until then, I think the staff is doing what they can to give themselves options.  There's no doubt that a bunch of these offers are uncommittable at this point but they seems to be wanting to have fall-back options in case they don't get the bigger guys to come our way rather than hope we get the bigger guys and don't have a backup plan if we don't.

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26 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

The discussion in the new OT offer’s thread does bring me back to why I was a little hesitant about Frost coaching through the bowl game. The staff hit the ground running and obviously had plans and back-up plans as evidenced by the JUCO guys they targeted. They really did a dynamite job all things considered to close out the 2018 recruiting class. Only regret is that we didn’t sign that JUCO OLB who signed with Tennessee as I think he was an immediate impact player.

 

But those last couple months are vital to the 2019 recruiting class as well. It’s an important time to set up the board and figure out the plan for the next year, and I think our staff was a little bit behind the 8 ball because they had so much 2018 recruiting to still handle. Not trying to be pessimistic or say that the sky is falling or anything like that. We will see how this cycle goes, I figure some of it will be tied to how we look in the season.

Situations like this are why recruiting builds over time.  They did a great job in 2018 for what they had to work with and the time frame.  I think they will do a decent job in 2019.  But, moving forward, I think every year they will have better and more relationships with recruits and coaches.  They will also (hopefully) have good success on the field to help build the momentum.  

Every year you build off the last and continual improvement.

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I think this is a lot of why we're seeing all kinds of offers for the 2019 class - they're still playing catch-up.  It's not nearly the same case with the 2020 class.  But it's what they have to do for now.

 

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"I let those guys be them, and every situation is a little different," the Nebraska head coach told Husker 247 on Thursday. "Ideally we'd want it that we would identify kids, the position coach would watch the tape, then the coordinator, then I'd watch it, and if everybody's on the same page, we'd give them an offer. A little bit this year, since we're playing catch-up on this class, since we just got to Nebraska, we've had to wing it a little bit.


"But we're really on the same page as a coaching staff in what we're looking for at each position and what type of traits we value. I trust our coaches to make good decisions whenever I'm not available to help with it."

 

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According to 247, Nebraska has offered 338 players.  Only 5 Power 5 schools have offered more.  I have to believe they have caught up by now.

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6 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

According to 247, Nebraska has offered 338 players.  Only 5 Power 5 schools have offered more.  I have to believe they have caught up by now.

We might need to expand the locker rooms if/when all 338 say yes.

 

COMPETITION!

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3 minutes ago, Minnesota_husker said:

We might need to expand the locker rooms if/when all 338 say yes.

 

COMPETITION!

Sure won't need the walk on program

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15 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

According to 247, Nebraska has offered 338 players.  Only 5 Power 5 schools have offered more.  I have to believe they have caught up by now.

 

Yeah, that's not the same thing.

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3 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Yeah, that's not the same thing.

So you are saying we need to offer a thousand players.. sounds like a lot, but I believe this staff can do it!

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3 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Yeah, that's not the same thing.

How do you know?  Do you know what the coaches are thinking?

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1 minute ago, StPaulHusker said:

How do you know?  Do you know what the coaches are thinking?

 

Yep.  I always claim to know exactly what the coaches are thinking.  You can tell by the part where I said nothing about what the coaches are thinking.

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Just now, Mavric said:

 

Yep.  I always claim to know exactly what the coaches are thinking.  You can tell by the part where I said nothing about what the coaches are thinking.

You claim to know when they have or haven't "caught up" based on my comments about offers.  I'm not sure why you have to argue with me about my opinions on recruiting but I'm game.  It's evident you have it out for anyone that has even the slightest view different than total sunshine about the coaching staff.

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Just now, StPaulHusker said:

You claim to know when they have or haven't "caught up" based on my comments about offers.  I'm not sure why you have to argue with me about my opinions on recruiting but I'm game.  It's evident you have it out for anyone that has even the slightest view different than total sunshine about the coaching staff.

 

That's nothing like what the case is.  You seem to enjoy being adversarial.  Then when you're called on it you try to play it off like you're just asking but it took you all of one day to go back to being adversarial again.  


I have no issue with what anyone thinks about the staff.  I think it's pretty early to make any sort of absolutes either way but I think there are a lot of signs that point in the positive direction and relatively few that point the other way.  So I don't see much point in being negative right now but whatever works for you.

 

It's fairly easy to know what the staff is thinking when they COME OUT AND SAY WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.  Or are you going to try to argue that when Frost said "since we're playing catch-up on this class" he meant something other than they're playing catch-up?

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1 minute ago, Mavric said:

 

That's nothing like what the case is.  You seem to enjoy being adversarial.  Then when you're called on it you try to play it off like you're just asking but it took you all of one day to go back to being adversarial again.  


I have no issue with what anyone thinks about the staff.  I think it's pretty early to make any sort of absolutes either way but I think there are a lot of signs that point in the positive direction and relatively few that point the other way.  So I don't see much point in being negative right now but whatever works for you.

 

It's fairly easy to know what the staff is thinking when they COME OUT AND SAY WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.  Or are you going to try to argue that when Frost said "since we're playing catch-up on this class" he meant something other than they're playing catch-up?

My point is how can they still be playing catch up if they have offered 338 kids based on the evaluation process he mentioned?  He's just talking knowing people will buy whatever he's saying right now.

 

 

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Just now, StPaulHusker said:

My point is how can they still be playing catch up if they have offered 338 kids based on the evaluation process he mentioned?  He's just talking knowing people will buy whatever he's saying right now.

 

Because they've had three months to evaluate, recruit and build relationships with kids where a lot of other coaching staffs have had a couple years.

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3 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Because they've had three months to evaluate, recruit and build relationships with kids where a lot of other coaching staffs have had a couple years.

They are recruiting the same places they were at UCF.  Maybe a few newer places but mostly all the same.  Again, just another excuse

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2 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

They are recruiting the same places they were at UCF.  Maybe a few newer places but mostly all the same.  Again, just another excuse

 

No, they're not.  Try looking at how many of the guys they've offered have UCF offers.

 

Apparently you're the one who actually knows what the coaches are thinking because you can divine that they're not actually thinking what they say they're thinking.

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47 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

According to 247, Nebraska has offered 338 players.  Only 5 Power 5 schools have offered more.  I have to believe they have caught up by now.

I have no problem with this.  I'm not sure why people even pay attention to it.

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8 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Because they've had three months to evaluate, recruit and build relationships with kids where a lot of other coaching staffs have had a couple years.

I took Frost’s wing it comment to mean they haven’t been able to follow normal process for all that they’ve offered. If they want to go back and evaluate the players they’ve already offered, they are still trying to catch up.

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2 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

No, they're not.  Try looking at how many of the guys they've offered have UCF offers.

 

Apparently you're the one who actually knows what the coaches are thinking because you can divine that they're not actually thinking what they say they're thinking.

Sean Beckton has been recruiting Georgia for years

Ryan Held has been recruiting JUCO's for years

Dewitt and Fisher?  Florida for years.

 

These kids know who they are.  They have been in those schools many times and know the coaches.  

 

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7 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Sean Beckton has been recruiting Georgia for years

Ryan Held has been recruiting JUCO's for years

Dewitt and Fisher?  Florida for years.

 

These kids know who they are.  They have been in those schools many times and know the coaches.  

 

 

And they've only offered kids in Florida, Georgia and at JUCOs, right?

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Who cares if the staff has offered 50 or 1,000 - I don't see the issue if we end up getting good players and winning football games 

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3 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

Who cares if the staff has offered 50 or 1,000 - I don't see the issue if we end up getting good players and winning football games 

The number doesn't really matter.  I'm just curious how many offers there will be before the coaching staff feels they are caught up in 2019 recruiting.  338 sounded, to me,  like they should be there.  I guess not.

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47 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

The number doesn't really matter.  I'm just curious how many offers there will be before the coaching staff feels they are caught up in 2019 recruiting.  338 sounded, to me,  like they should be there.  I guess not.


Has THIS staff offered 338, or is that counting who Riley's staff also offered? I assume the latter 

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Would anyone else be a little disappointed if Luke McCaffrey ends up being our only QB for this class? The high school he plays for is where most of the top talent in the state goes if they can so they pretty much run the table. It leads to recruits looking better than they really are a lot of the time since Colorado isn’t (usually) exactly flush with talent in the first place. Their team looked much better when their mediocre senior 3-star QB was in the game last year which is a little disconcerting.

 

It’s the one position I think we can always trust Frost in evaluating for his offense so I guess I wouldn’t be too mad. Just seems like a weird QB for the class but maybe he is set to have a big senior year.

 

Also, Held has already done more recruiting for us than Reggie Davis ever did.

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40 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

Would anyone else be a little disappointed if Luke McCaffrey ends up being our only QB for this class? The high school he plays for is where most of the top talent in the state goes if they can so they pretty much run the table. It leads to recruits looking better than they really are a lot of the time since Colorado isn’t (usually) exactly flush with talent in the first place. Their team looked much better when their mediocre senior 3-star QB was in the game last year which is a little disconcerting.

 

It’s the one position I think we can always trust Frost in evaluating for his offense so I guess I wouldn’t be too mad. Just seems like a weird QB for the class but maybe he is set to have a big senior year.

 

Also, Held has already done more recruiting for us than Reggie Davis ever did.

 

I would be disappointed if the only QB that we took for 2019 was a kid that no one is sure if he would actually play QB in college.

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59 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

Would anyone else be a little disappointed if Luke McCaffrey ends up being our only QB for this class? The high school he plays for is where most of the top talent in the state goes if they can so they pretty much run the table. It leads to recruits looking better than they really are a lot of the time since Colorado isn’t (usually) exactly flush with talent in the first place. Their team looked much better when their mediocre senior 3-star QB was in the game last year which is a little disconcerting.

 

It’s the one position I think we can always trust Frost in evaluating for his offense so I guess I wouldn’t be too mad. Just seems like a weird QB for the class but maybe he is set to have a big senior year.

 

Also, Held has already done more recruiting for us than Reggie Davis ever did.

Oh, so his older brothers suck then?

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3 minutes ago, ScottyIce said:

Oh, so his older brothers suck then?

Haha well Christian obviously didn’t suck. I’m not sure we have much on Dylan at this point though? He certainly doesn’t suck based on the recruiting stars and most of his offers but I haven’t heard his name mentioned really and it’s got to be seen as a bit of a loss that he never pushed their terrible QBs last year. We might be relying on a true freshman QB who missed his senior year but Michigan desperately needed to add a start-right-away transfer QB when Dylan is a redshirt freshman seems like another indictment.

 

Anyway, my point wasn’t to say that anyone who plays for Valor Christian HS sucks, just that I think you have to put them all in context. The fact that Luke wasn’t able to put up #s like Dylan did passing the ball seems worrisome.

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2 hours ago, Caliborn72 said:

Haha well Christian obviously didn’t suck. I’m not sure we have much on Dylan at this point though? He certainly doesn’t suck based on the recruiting stars and most of his offers but I haven’t heard his name mentioned really and it’s got to be seen as a bit of a loss that he never pushed their terrible QBs last year. We might be relying on a true freshman QB who missed his senior year but Michigan desperately needed to add a start-right-away transfer QB when Dylan is a redshirt freshman seems like another indictment.

 

Anyway, my point wasn’t to say that anyone who plays for Valor Christian HS sucks, just that I think you have to put them all in context. The fact that Luke wasn’t able to put up #s like Dylan did passing the ball seems worrisome.

The QB in front of Luke is a FR at Colorado. So Luke’s SO and JR years in HS the QB’s in front of him both went to P5 schools and Luke started at other positions because he is that athletic and apparently wasn’t as accomplished as a passer as 2 guys who went to P5 schools as QB’s

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I definitely understand that, but the Colorado QB didn’t strike me as anything special. 247 graded him as an 84, which is on the low end of the 3-stars. It’s certainly possible that he’s much better than that. I also get that it can be hard for a coach to completely bench a senior QB like that for a younger one at the high school level.

 

Anyway, I’m not trying to say Luke would be a terrible take or anything, especially if he’s being recruited as an athlete who could potentially be our starting QB. He seems to have very good athleticism and can be a playmaker. If he has a big senior year, he could make it clear that he’s going to be a QB at the next level and then I’ll feel silly for having any doubts.

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17 hours ago, StPaulHusker said:

The number doesn't really matter.  I'm just curious how many offers there will be before the coaching staff feels they are caught up in 2019 recruiting.  338 sounded, to me,  like they should be there.  I guess not.

Sure the offers are out now, but they are still catching up on building relationships with their identified targets. Other teams locked in their board well before NU and could focus on the top recruits for a longer period of time. Yes there are a few targets I am sure the NU staff have been working on for awhile, but there are many more they had to evaluate first to determine which ones they should expend their human capital on. Those are the ones they are playing catch up on. Just look at how many recruits they offered already had multiple offers prior.

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16 seniors this year plus over-sign by 3 would be 19.  Several reports that the staff is planning on 23-25 again.

 

Priority:

QB - Frost says one every year but it might be two this year

OT - A continued trouble spot  but we'll see what the new guys can do

DT - Need to re-stock

CB - We'll have to see how the 2018 guys slot in but we don't have a lot of young ones

 

Current Scholarships/Commits

QB - 1-2 - Michael Johnson, John Rhys Plumlee, Terrance Gipson, Luke McCaffrey, Jayden Daniels
RB - 2-3 - THOMAS GRAYSONRAHMIR JOHNSON, Ronald Thompkins, Tyler Goodson
WR - 3-4 - Kyren Williams, Marcus Washington, Cameron Coleman, Bryce Childress, Mycah Pittman, Kyle Ford, Marlyn Johnson, Jameson Williams
TE - 1 - Chris Hickman
OT - 2-3 - Jayme Simmons, Jack Buford, Jaelin Humphries, Taylor Miterko
OG/C - 1-2 - McKade Mettauer, William Putnam, Danielson Ike

NT - 1-2 - JUCO Tony Fair, Ben Smiley, Gio Paez
DE - 2 - ETHAN PIPERTy Robinson, Mosai Newsom, Stephon Wright
LB - 3 - GARRETT NELSON, Nick Henrich, Makobe Dean, Spencer Lytle, Ge'mon Eaford, JUCO Jermaine Johnson, Maninoa Tufono, Peni Naulu
CB - 2-3 - Javin Wright, Isaiah Essissima, Tiawan Mullen
S - 1-2 - Jalani Williams, Jalyn Phillips, Quinton Newsome, Cornelius Nunn

 

ATH - GARRETT SNODGRASSMarquis Wilson

 

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On 5/16/2018 at 4:40 AM, spurs1990 said:

Who are our sure bets

Should be Javin Wright and Mosai Newsom...would be very surprised if we don't land both those guys.  I put high percentages also on Chris Hickman and Nick Henrich.  

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