drew95 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 What are early thoughts on predictions for season? I seem to waver on 8-4, or 9-3. Going to say 9-3. Losses to Northwestern, Ohio St and Iowa. Northwestern always plays us tough and will be on road following a surprising, emotional and tough win over Oregon. I see us going to Ohio St with one loss. Could be flat in Chicago the next week. Ohio St is probably even beatable given all the players they will be replacing. If TA can make a big jump and eliminate the costly turnovers I can see a 1 loss regular season. Not likely though Quote Link to comment
dvdcrr Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 IF stay healthy, 10-2 (loss to tOSU and a random team like Indiana or Minnesota) If injuries hamper us, per normal season anymore, 8-4 (tOSU, Wiscy, NW and Iowa) Quote Link to comment
drew95 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. I agree. Hoping for the best Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. This is probably an example of "common knowledge" not actually reflecting reality. HEre's an article on point, though it does only discuss OL. http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=does-an-experience-offensive-line-lead-to-more-success What does this mean for 2013? The Crimson Tide return just 39 starts, which is No. 106 in the nation. Alabama has some of the most-skilled players in the country, and the Tide are rightfully being put at the top of most preseason rankings, but there are some questions on the offensive line that haven't been there for a few years. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. The past three national champions had at least 90 returning starts on the line, but the three teams that finished No. 2 each had fewer than 80. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. Does more returning offensive line starts equal more success? Not always. There are many factors that help contribute to success or failure, and a low number of returning starts doesn't guatantee failure. Just look at Oklahoma in 2010 (42 starts) USC in 2011 (27) and Georgia last year (31). A 7-win season would be massively disappointing and would indicate to me that this staff doesn't have what it takes to maintain the Husker standard. 1 Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. This is probably an example of "common knowledge" not actually reflecting reality. HEre's an article on point, though it does only discuss OL. http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=does-an-experience-offensive-line-lead-to-more-success What does this mean for 2013? The Crimson Tide return just 39 starts, which is No. 106 in the nation. Alabama has some of the most-skilled players in the country, and the Tide are rightfully being put at the top of most preseason rankings, but there are some questions on the offensive line that haven't been there for a few years. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. The past three national champions had at least 90 returning starts on the line, but the three teams that finished No. 2 each had fewer than 80. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. Does more returning offensive line starts equal more success? Not always. There are many factors that help contribute to success or failure, and a low number of returning starts doesn't guatantee failure. Just look at Oklahoma in 2010 (42 starts) USC in 2011 (27) and Georgia last year (31). A 7-win season would be massively disappointing and would indicate to me that this staff doesn't have what it takes to maintain the Husker standard. Good point except NU has no where near that talent that those teams did. Quote Link to comment
NUinID Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. I coached HS football for 21 years, the last 15 at the class A level. Turning over an entire starting 5 on the offensive line was not unheard of and turning over at least 3 every year wa pretty much the norm. Experience is nice and always preferred, but more times than not I have seen Jr's that never played a down of varsity move in and play quite well as Sr's. If the guys are talented, and these guys are, they can step in and surprise you. Nick Gates was arguably the best OL on the starting 5 last year, and he was a RSfreshman. He wasn't good because the right guard was telling him the plays in the huddle. He was good because he was athetic and knew what he was doing. Give them a chance they might surprise you. As far as the Dline goes. Freedom, Dzurius, and Maurice played a lot last year. Starting on the Dline is kinda overrated. It would be wonderful to have all 4 of the guys back that left, but then everyone would be talking undefeated. Stoltenberg, the Davis tripletts, and D. Neal are going to play well IMO. You can throw Newell in the group also. 2 Quote Link to comment
drew95 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. I coached HS football for 21 years, the last 15 at the class A level. Turning over an entire starting 5 on the offensive line was not unheard of and turning over at least 3 every year wa pretty much the norm. Experience is nice and always preferred, but more times than not I have seen Jr's that never played a down of varsity move in and play quite well as Sr's. If the guys are talented, and these guys are, they can step in and surprise you. Nick Gates was arguably the best OL on the starting 5 last year, and he was a RSfreshman. He wasn't good because the right guard was telling him the plays in the huddle. He was good because he was athetic and knew what he was doing. Give them a chance they might surprise you. As far as the Dline goes. Freedom, Dzurius, and Maurice played a lot last year. Starting on the Dline is kinda overrated. It would be wonderful to have all 4 of the guys back that left, but then everyone would be talking undefeated. Stoltenberg, the Davis tripletts, and D. Neal are going to play well IMO. You can throw Newell in the group also. Exactly. Nicely put. Quote Link to comment
RunMickeyRun02 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 We'll beat someone we shouldn't, lose to someone we shouldn't (this year Maryland or Indiana) and they'll be a point in the season where things will look pretty dark and a part of the season where things will be looking up. In the end everything will average itself out and we'll end up 9-3 or 8-4. I foresee Tommy getting hurt towards the end of the season proving fodder for offseason QB talk to keep the fan base interested. Quote Link to comment
Making Chimichangas Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 What are early thoughts on predictions for season? I seem to waver on 8-4, or 9-3. Going to say 9-3. Losses to Northwestern, Ohio St and Iowa. Northwestern always plays us tough and will be on road following a surprising, emotional and tough win over Oregon. I see us going to Ohio St with one loss. Could be flat in Chicago the next week. Ohio St is probably even beatable given all the players they will be replacing. If TA can make a big jump and eliminate the costly turnovers I can see a 1 loss regular season. Not likely though That's the biggest problem, 11-1 regular season is possible if the coaches call plays which take advantage of what Tommy Armstrong does well. Conversely, I could also see NU going 7-5 with losses to: Oregon, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Indiana. Not to mention we could also do worse than 7-5. The Huskers could also lose to Iowa, Purdue, or anyone else on our schedule. But we could also beat everyone except for probably Ohio State. In summary, I have no idea. Quote Link to comment
drew95 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 What are early thoughts on predictions for season? I seem to waver on 8-4, or 9-3. Going to say 9-3. Losses to Northwestern, Ohio St and Iowa. Northwestern always plays us tough and will be on road following a surprising, emotional and tough win over Oregon. I see us going to Ohio St with one loss. Could be flat in Chicago the next week. Ohio St is probably even beatable given all the players they will be replacing. If TA can make a big jump and eliminate the costly turnovers I can see a 1 loss regular season. Not likely though That's the biggest problem, 11-1 regular season is possible if the coaches call plays which take advantage of what Tommy Armstrong does well. Conversely, I could also see NU going 7-5 with losses to: Oregon, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Indiana. Not to mention we could also do worse than 7-5. The Huskers could also lose to Iowa, Purdue, or anyone else on our schedule. But we could also beat everyone except for probably Ohio State. In summary, I have no idea. No one does. All just supposition and hope. Wrapped up in some hopeful pragmatism Quote Link to comment
cm husker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. This is probably an example of "common knowledge" not actually reflecting reality. HEre's an article on point, though it does only discuss OL. http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=does-an-experience-offensive-line-lead-to-more-success What does this mean for 2013? The Crimson Tide return just 39 starts, which is No. 106 in the nation. Alabama has some of the most-skilled players in the country, and the Tide are rightfully being put at the top of most preseason rankings, but there are some questions on the offensive line that haven't been there for a few years. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. The past three national champions had at least 90 returning starts on the line, but the three teams that finished No. 2 each had fewer than 80. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. Does more returning offensive line starts equal more success? Not always. There are many factors that help contribute to success or failure, and a low number of returning starts doesn't guatantee failure. Just look at Oklahoma in 2010 (42 starts) USC in 2011 (27) and Georgia last year (31). A 7-win season would be massively disappointing and would indicate to me that this staff doesn't have what it takes to maintain the Husker standard. Good point except NU has no where near that talent that those teams did.NU has arguably the most talented roster in the B10, except for OSU. No one is expecting an NC, or even a playoff berth. But a 7-win season with the talent on this team would be a shameful waste. Less than 7 wins, and I'll be nodding along to the fire them sooner than later train of thought. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I know NU's talent isn't amazing, but it still should be good enough to easily win 8 or 9 games this season. If that doesn't happen, it's because of a coaching deficiency, not a talent deficiency. I just don't like lowering my standards and expectations as a fan to accept anything less. 2 Quote Link to comment
admo Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyone who has ever been a coach can attest that it is hard to win a bunch of games with new OL and DL. 7 wins. This is probably an example of "common knowledge" not actually reflecting reality. HEre's an article on point, though it does only discuss OL. http://coachingsearch.com/article?a=does-an-experience-offensive-line-lead-to-more-success What does this mean for 2013? The Crimson Tide return just 39 starts, which is No. 106 in the nation. Alabama has some of the most-skilled players in the country, and the Tide are rightfully being put at the top of most preseason rankings, but there are some questions on the offensive line that haven't been there for a few years. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. The past three national champions had at least 90 returning starts on the line, but the three teams that finished No. 2 each had fewer than 80. It's worth noting Alabama had 52 returning starts in 2009, their first national championship season under Saban. Does more returning offensive line starts equal more success? Not always. There are many factors that help contribute to success or failure, and a low number of returning starts doesn't guatantee failure. Just look at Oklahoma in 2010 (42 starts) USC in 2011 (27) and Georgia last year (31). A 7-win season would be massively disappointing and would indicate to me that this staff doesn't have what it takes to maintain the Husker standard. Good point except NU has no where near that talent that those teams did.NU has arguably the most talented roster in the B10, except for OSU. No one is expecting an NC, or even a playoff berth. But a 7-win season with the talent on this team would be a shameful waste. Less than 7 wins, and I'll be nodding along to the fire them sooner than later train of thought. You can be the most talented team in the country. But if you don't have discipline, intelligence, attitude, motivation and teamwork you can lose plenty of games. Great players make great plays because of this, just as smart players make smart plays and so on. It all has to be there; not just slinging around the term talent so loosely. 2 Quote Link to comment
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