NM11046 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Link to comment
huKSer Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Too bad the mythic Greek Narcissus died before the selfie was invented. 3 Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... Link to comment
HuskerNation1 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... Well I think everything on huserboard is a matter of opinion, whether its this politics forum or the main football room. I'm just saying as I read through the list of bullets, many apply to Obama, Hillary, and Trump. Link to comment
NUinID Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... Well I think everything on huserboard is a matter of opinion, whether its this politics forum or the main football room. I'm just saying as I read through the list of bullets, many apply to Obama, Hillary, and Trump. I would definitely say it applies to most people that run fro highter public office. They want the power, they want to be remembered, they want to be well liked. It all fits. Trump, HRC, Obama, Bill Clinton, W, Reagen all had a lot of narssistic traits. . Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... Well I think everything on huserboard is a matter of opinion, whether its this politics forum or the main football room. I'm just saying as I read through the list of bullets, many apply to Obama, Hillary, and Trump. You're absolutely right - what I meant to say is I disagree with you. Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... Well I think everything on huserboard is a matter of opinion, whether its this politics forum or the main football room. I'm just saying as I read through the list of bullets, many apply to Obama, Hillary, and Trump. I would definitely say it applies to most people that run fro highter public office. They want the power, they want to be remembered, they want to be well liked. It all fits. Trump, HRC, Obama, Bill Clinton, W, Reagen all had a lot of narssistic traits. . Really? I think anybody who runs for office has the view that they can and want to do good for the greater population - that's not necessarily narcissism. If they have qualifications and the knowledge I think that's confidence. It's really a selfless job for the most part and it certainly doesn't pay well. I think the key in what you said is that past president may have narssistic traits. I'd have to do some research, typically in order to be diagnosed with a DSM disorder you have to meet a certain number of the traits .. so if you exhibit one of them or three of them you may be a narcissist, but not have the NPD. And shoot, if they want to be well-liked, nobody would run for office. Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... NM is at it again. Saving the world, one internet post at a time. The classic "you don't agree with me so it's just an opinion" You literally said that NPD is a "very real thing" and then someone says that the current president and 2 candidates have some of these characteristics and you're all of a sudden backtracking and calling it subjective. 1 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... NM is at it again. Saving the world, one internet post at a time. The classic "you don't agree with me so it's just an opinion" You literally said that NPD is a "very real thing" and then someone says that the current president and 2 candidates have some of these characteristics and you're all of a sudden backtracking and calling it subjective. Aw, I didn't realize my posts had such an impact on you Coach! Hopefully I cleared things up with my responses, I should have said I disagree with bnl, and there are some additional details on the disorder vs. just being narcissistic. Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... Well I think everything on huserboard is a matter of opinion, whether its this politics forum or the main football room. I'm just saying as I read through the list of bullets, many apply to Obama, Hillary, and Trump. I would definitely say it applies to most people that run fro highter public office. They want the power, they want to be remembered, they want to be well liked. It all fits. Trump, HRC, Obama, Bill Clinton, W, Reagen all had a lot of narssistic traits. . Really? I think anybody who runs for office has the view that they can and want to do good for the greater population - that's not necessarily narcissism. If they have qualifications and the knowledge I think that's confidence. It's really a selfless job for the most part Oh. My. Hell no it's not selfless. All presidents Executive order this and that to leave a legacy (whether good or bad), and whine and complain when they don't get their way. Thats the exact example of a selfish. Not selfless. Selfless would be resigning from office when an approval rating drops below a certain point. How many have done that? Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. You're dreaming. 2 Link to comment
NUinID Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I found this definition of a medical condition interesting - it's a very real thing, and one I think we're witnessing on a national level right now. DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner Interesting find. In looking at all the bullets, I think it could apply to our current POTUS as well as the 2 major party candidates running right now. That's a matter of opinion ... Well I think everything on huserboard is a matter of opinion, whether its this politics forum or the main football room. I'm just saying as I read through the list of bullets, many apply to Obama, Hillary, and Trump. I would definitely say it applies to most people that run fro highter public office. They want the power, they want to be remembered, they want to be well liked. It all fits. Trump, HRC, Obama, Bill Clinton, W, Reagen all had a lot of narssistic traits. . Really? I think anybody who runs for office has the view that they can and want to do good for the greater population - that's not necessarily narcissism. If they have qualifications and the knowledge I think that's confidence. It's really a selfless job for the most part and it certainly doesn't pay well. I think the key in what you said is that past president may have narssistic traits. I'd have to do some research, typically in order to be diagnosed with a DSM disorder you have to meet a certain number of the traits .. so if you exhibit one of them or three of them you may be a narcissist, but not have the NPD. And shoot, if they want to be well-liked, nobody would run for office. Sure they want to do good. Having sime narcissim in your personality is not nessisarily a bad thing. I don't think any of our past presidents have all of the traits on your list but most have some of them. Unfortunately our 2 candidates both have too many of the traits on the list. I know you are pointing it at Trump, but HRC is just as bad. She just doesn't say it out loud most of the time. Being POTUS is not a selfless job. It is the most powerful job in the world. People ruin for POTUS because they want to do good, or what they think is good, but they also want the power and prestidge that goes with the job. The only POTUS of recent memory that had very few of these traits was Carter and IMO he was a terrible president. Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 If some if you are implying that Obama is not narcissistic, you're just plain wrong. Of course Trump is too, in a more obnoxious sort of way, but I think the word was invented for Obama. Hillary? *shrugs* A lot of other descriptors apply before narcissistic. Link to comment
Landlord Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 If some if you are implying that Obama is not narcissistic, you're just plain wrong. Of course Trump is too, in a more obnoxious sort of way, but I think the word was invented for Obama. Hillary? *shrugs* A lot of other descriptors apply before narcissistic. The thread is about NPD, which is very, very different. We also suffer from narcissism. 3 Link to comment
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