ScottyIce Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Starting to look more and more legit. Source told ESPN that Big 12 "could be close to the end" Man... How sweet would that be. Adds: B1G: Texas & OU SEC: Baylor, TCU ACC: Kansas, WV PAC: Texas Tech? I don't know about those others, just that I'd want OU and Texas. 1 Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 MattyIce, I presume you're referring to these articles?: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17612297/where-do-things-stand-big-12-expansion-talks http://247sports.com/Bolt/Source-tells-ESPN-Big-12-could-be-close-to-the-end-47692920 Yeah, that's been the rub with Big XII expansion, that they need to get eight or more votes out of 10, and we already know that Oklahoma is most likely to vote no for the whole bunch, and Texass is going to turn their nose up at just about all of the candidates as well. Also, as I mentioned before, the GOR isn't going to be extended. So even if they invited all 11 candidates, it doesn't matter, because the two principal actors in this whole thing (Oklahoma and Texass) aren't signing the GOR because they've got plans to leave as soon as it expires (or sooner, if they can get out of the GOR for cheap). So far, neither Texas nor Oklahoma has indicated it would agree to a grant of rights extension under any scenario. Without the extension, the clock will continue to tick on the Big 12, regardless of whether it expands or not, as the Longhorns and Sooners will be free to leave for greener pastures when the rights expire. "If the two parents don't commit [to signing the extension]," said one industry source, "what does that tell you?" It tells us a lot, actually. ----- As for conference additions, I'd say you could see the following realistically happen (with my personal percentage of likelihood they would be picked up by that conference): B1G: Texass (75%), Oklahoma (85%), Kansas (25%) Pac-12: Texass (25%), Oklahoma (15%), Texas Tech (15%), Okie Lite (10%) SEC: TCU (65%), Kansas State (60%), Okie Lite (35%), Oklahoma (15%), Kansas (15%) ACC: West Virginia (75%) Mountain West: Baylor (75%), Texas Tech (75%), Okie Lite (75%), TCU (50%), Kansas State (50%), Iowa State (50%), Kansas (40%) AAC: Iowa State (75%), Baylor (50%), Kansas State (50%), Okie Lite (25%), Texas Tech (25%), Kansas (15%), TCU (10%) B1G: We know that if either Texass and/or Oklahoma show up, they're getting in. But if one of them decides to go elsewhere (Texass to Pac-12, Oklahoma to Pac-12/SEC), then Kansas would be next in the pecking order because of Basketball (it's what matters next after football is exhausted, and Delaney is a former NCAA Basketball player, has aspirations for B1G BBall dominance, etc.) Pac-12: We know they've vetted Oklahoma, Okie Lite, Texas Tech, and Texass when they were going to go west all those years ago. Realistically, Texass may choose them over the B1G, which means they need a moving buddy (likely Tech) unless the Pac-12 decides to pick up one of their own (e.g. Nevada). Okie Lite really doesn't move the meter for anyone since they're a small school, small viewership, no pedigree, and no one gives a **** about them except when they're beating Texass and Oklahoma. SEC: Oklahoma fans want to go to the SEC (mainly because their fans are morons), but this runs against what their administration wants to do (read: improve OU's academic cache with a conference move), and the SEC is known more for groundbreaking paper mills than groundbreaking research papers. TCU would be welcome, though, as it gives aTm a rival, gives the SEC the DFW market, and they've been stable and competent. Okie Lite is only on there if Oklahoma goes to the SEC (read: moving buddy), and Kansas State/Kansas will both get looks because the SEC needs to throw Mizzery a bone at some point. ACC: West Virginia is the only school they'll realistically look at unless they get some grand Napoleonic idea to poach SEC schools and move west, which won't happen. WVU could be paired up with a moving buddy (UConn, for example) that would work well. Mountain West, AAC, C-USA, Sun Belt: The MWC will get first crack at the top teams, as they're the conference most likely to get the former Big XII's seat at the P5 table. Whatever they don't take (e.g. Baylor, who is more scandal-ridden than a bible-thumping Republican in Texas), will likely fall into the AAC's lap, then the C-USA, then the Sun Belt will pick up the rest. I really don't see the MAC coming into play here, to be honest, but stranger things have happened. Of note: Iowa State will be the last picked, and will likely be a C-USA or Sun Belt team that we'll be able to schedule during non-con for a sure win. Okie Lite will probably be second-to-last picked if they aren't given a lifeline by another school, then Texas Tech. I doubt we'll see any of the other seven schools fall this far down and be available. 2 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Gonna be so nice having Oklahoma in the Big Ten. The stupid part about it, even if UT ends up in the Big Ten they will still blame us for leaving the Big 12 and killing it because they are stupid. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 With 16 teams I doubt that we stick with only two divisions. Pods make way more sense. A west pod with NU, OU, TX, and IA would be crazy. Crazy bad for IowaWrong. With the 9 game conf schedule it actually makes more sense to have 2 divisions because you get 7 game in division and 2 rotational games from the other side. Pods are cool but don't make as much sense. Wrong. With two 8-team divisions it takes four seasons to play everyone. With 4-team pods you can play everyone in two seasons. Yes, but it doesn't need to be that way. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Legends Pod Nebraska Oklahoma Texas Iowa Leaders Pod Ohio State Michigan Michigan State Illinois Pod C Northwestern Minnesota Wisconsin Indiana Pod D Purdue Maryland Rutgers Penn State Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Legends Pod Nebraska Oklahoma Texas Iowa Leaders Pod Ohio State Michigan Michigan State Illinois Pod C Northwestern Minnesota Wisconsin Indiana Pod D Purdue Maryland Rutgers Penn State The imbalance among pods is ridiculous. Can't have it that way. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 How do you decide who goes to the championship game? Quote Link to comment
Swiv3D Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 How do you decide who goes to the championship game? 2 pods match up with each other to form a division. Then every 2 or so years the pods rotate so different divisions are formed, but your core 4 are still together. Or at least that's how I understand it. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I actually hate the pods idea. Nebraska Oklahoma Texas Iowa Wisconsin Illinois Minnesota Purdue Ohio State Michigan Penn State Michigan State Maryland Rutgers Indiana Northwestern Every 4 years you play everyone. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I actually hate the pods idea. Nebraska Oklahoma Texas Iowa Wisconsin Illinois Minnesota Purdue Ohio State Michigan Penn State Michigan State Maryland Rutgers Indiana Northwestern Every 4 years you play everyone. It wouldn't be every 4 would it? You have to play 2 from the other side twice (home and away), so I think it would be 8 years? Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Well, couldn't you formulate it so you went through everyone and then back through again? Switching home and away every 4. Years? Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I actually hate the pods idea. Nebraska Oklahoma Texas Iowa Wisconsin Illinois Minnesota Purdue Ohio State Michigan Penn State Michigan State Maryland Rutgers Indiana Northwestern Every 4 years you play everyone. It wouldn't be every 4 would it? You have to play 2 from the other side twice (home and away), so I think it would be 8 years? You could either set it up to run through the other schools in four years (best option), with Home-and-home completed in eight years, or set it up for four schools to get home-and-home over four years, then the next four schools the next four years, so on and so forth. Also, if you want a laugh, go read the zombie-like thread on Shaggy Bevo about realignment, and how Texass fans are trying to justify away not signing the GOR. Quote Link to comment
ColoradoHusk Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I actually hate the pods idea. Nebraska Oklahoma Texas Iowa Wisconsin Illinois Minnesota Purdue Ohio State Michigan Penn State Michigan State Maryland Rutgers Indiana Northwestern Every 4 years you play everyone. It wouldn't be every 4 would it? You have to play 2 from the other side twice (home and away), so I think it would be 8 years? You could set it up like the NFL, where the teams rotate through the opposite conference divisions. They don't do the home and home thing for 2 straight years, they will play an opposite conference team at home in year 1, and then play that team on the road in year 5. So, you rotate through the entire conference once every 4 years, but only see them at home every 8 years. Quote Link to comment
Scratchtown Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Well, couldn't you formulate it so you went through everyone and then back through again? Switching home and away every 4. Years? Yea. You could just make sure each team has a home and away within the 8 year window without being in back to back years. Would take some time getting used to but I'm sure not a problem. Quote Link to comment
austinhusker Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Texas to the Big 10 would be awful. Their lust for total control of their conference and its members makes it all the more unlikely. Let them waste away in the terrible Big12. Quote Link to comment
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