Serious Q's To Trump Supporters (or those on the fence for Trump)

[NM11046]

I am sincere with these questions - no baiting.

 

It seems there have been a lot of respectable people from all walks of life (politics, public, etc) that have stood up and made passionate pleas against Trump as a candidate. Yet his supporters don't seem to value those opinions or take anything he says as a red flag for his competency.

 

Two questions:

1. Who do you respect enough, that if they took a strong public stance against Trump you would listen and reconsider?

2. Is there anything that he could say or do between now and election day to change your support of him?

As I said - not trolling, just really have a hard time believing that there haven't been shifts and changes of opinion and loyalties based on the folks who have come out against him (and all that he says).

[HuskerInLostWages]

Not a Trump supporter but I dont see that because anyone be it a celebrity or someone with that kind of status should be able to sway someones vote simply because of that status. Just like all the media touting who movie stars are for, in my mind who the F cares who they are voting for and if that is what sways your decision then you should be voting anyway.

 

Jusy my 2 cents

[NM11046]

Not a Trump supporter but I dont see that because anyone be it a celebrity or someone with that kind of status should be able to sway someones vote simply because of that status. Just like all the media touting who movie stars are for, in my mind who the F cares who they are voting for and if that is what sways your decision then you should be voting anyway.

 

Jusy my 2 cents

I was referring more to all the politicians, government officials and average Americans who have spoken up. Not celebrity.

[HuskerInLostWages]

 

Not a Trump supporter but I dont see that because anyone be it a celebrity or someone with that kind of status should be able to sway someones vote simply because of that status. Just like all the media touting who movie stars are for, in my mind who the F cares who they are voting for and if that is what sways your decision then you should be voting anyway.

Jusy my 2 cents

 

I was referring more to all the politicians, government officials and average Americans who have spoken up. Not celebrity.

I wouldnt trust a politician as far as I could throw one myself so those guys would be moot in most cases. As for the others i would say it would be how well does this person follow political candidates. Would i listen to them? Sure but would i base my vote of their beliefs? Not a chance. You would probably find the same answer by asking yourself your question when voting for Hillary. The same disgust you have for Trump is their same Disgust for her and how would those people you mention sway you crom voting that lady.

 

In my opinion they are both dumpster fires.

[admo]

I have a difficult time being thought of as a Trump supporter. So many flaws, but yes I am on the fence.

 

To answer your questions:

1. Who do you respect enough, that if they took a strong public stance against Trump you would listen and reconsider? Too many to list that I respect, but wouldn't change my stance.

2. Is there anything that he could say or do between now and election day to change your support of him? Short answer: No, not really. It's deeper than that.

 

And this is why I will eventually vote for him.

 

Trump is pro-life and supports the partial-birth abortion ban act. His list of conservative judges that he would consider for Supreme Court are all pro-life.

Hilary is for Roe vs Wade, and supports the partial-birth abortion procedure. She will only nominate judges for the Supreme Court that are not pro-life.

Trump's VP Pence is solid pro-life and votes for the partial-birth abortion ban act.

Hilary's VP Kaine votes against pro-life by supporting abortion, including late abortions.

　

The partial birth abortion procedure from the 5th month on pulls the living baby out of the womb by the feet, except for the head, puncturing the skull and suctioning out the brain.

Stats

Over One Million abortions are reported per year.

Roughly 17% of abortions are teenagers, 57% of women in their 20's, and 26% of women over 30 years of age through 44 years old. Which means, 83% of abortion procedures are being done by women between 20-44.

1% of all abortions performed have been reported as survivors of rape.

 

http://www.statisticbrain.com/abortion-statistics/

http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042

http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/2016POTUScomparison.pdf

So you see, it's not so much that I think he would be the best president ever!1, nor do I think anyone of remarkable influence that I respect could change my mind before voting. The older I get, hopefully the more wiser I become. I may not have made the best out of my life, but I was given a chance, just like y'all. And the best thing I can do is to stand up for the innocent, for the soon-to-be born, the one's who need our help (adults) - so that they get the opportunity to a life just like you and I - and not be snuffed out so quickly.

As hard as it may be to cast that vote for Donald, tell me, who is so wise to tell me I should reconsider and vote against what I stand for? I will at least listen.

 

[NM11046]

Thanks for taking the time to reply Admo - I appreciate your perspective.

 

So it's really a one issue vote for you - does his past stance on the subject concern you at all? His pro life opinions have only been brought to light since about a year ago, before that he was publicly pro choice.

[Fru]

I have a difficult time being thought of as a Trump supporter. So many flaws, but yes I am on the fence.

 

To answer your questions:

1. Who do you respect enough, that if they took a strong public stance against Trump you would listen and reconsider? Too many to list that I respect, but wouldn't change my stance.

2. Is there anything that he could say or do between now and election day to change your support of him? Short answer: No, not really. It's deeper than that.

 

And this is why I will eventually vote for him.

 

Trump is pro-life and supports the partial-birth abortion ban act. His list of conservative judges that he would consider for Supreme Court are all pro-life.

Hilary is for Roe vs Wade, and supports the partial-birth abortion procedure. She will only nominate judges for the Supreme Court that are not pro-life.

Trump's VP Pence is solid pro-life and votes for the partial-birth abortion ban act.

Hilary's VP Kaine votes against pro-life by supporting abortion, including late abortions.

　

The partial birth abortion procedure from the 5th month on pulls the living baby out of the womb by the feet, except for the head, puncturing the skull and suctioning out the brain.

Stats

Over One Million abortions are reported per year.

Roughly 17% of abortions are teenagers, 57% of women in their 20's, and 26% of women over 30 years of age through 44 years old. Which means, 83% of abortion procedures are being done by women between 20-44.

1% of all abortions performed have been reported as survivors of rape.

 

http://www.statisticbrain.com/abortion-statistics/

http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042

http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/2016POTUScomparison.pdf

So you see, it's not so much that I think he would be the best president ever!1, nor do I think anyone of remarkable influence that I respect could change my mind before voting. The older I get, hopefully the more wiser I become. I may not have made the best out of my life, but I was given a chance, just like y'all. And the best thing I can do is to stand up for the innocent, for the soon-to-be born, the one's who need our help (adults) - so that they get the opportunity to a life just like you and I - and not be snuffed out so quickly.

As hard as it may be to cast that vote for Donald, tell me, who is so wise to tell me I should reconsider and vote against what I stand for? I will at least listen.

 

See this is where I take issue with lots of Pro Lifers.

 

Many (not saying you specifically, but many) Pro Lifers profess to be all about caring for the "ones who can't protect themselves" and that "every life is sacred." That's all well and good for a zygote, however when it comes to other issues concerning life and well being, Pro Lifers are often times anti universal healthcare, anti common sense gun control laws, pro war, anti public assistance programs which largely benefit children, the disabled and the elderly, anti regulation, and against Environmental Protection laws.

 

You claim to be on the fence about this election because of your stance on abortion. Trump has often times questioned why other countries don't have and use nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. That is literally the most deadly force the world has ever seen. But your biggest concern is someone's private choice to take the Plan B pill? You're genuinely considering someone who encourages use of the deadliest weapons on earth, but might vote for him because he is against abortion? That does not compute with me.

 

I can very much appreciate someone's stance against abortion. Don't get me wrong. It's certainly not a fun topic. But abortion isn't going to matter a whole lot when Nukes are being launched across the globe.

[TGHusker]

As you know I'm not a Trump supporter. But I understand admo's position 100% being prolife myself. For this election, anyone on the pro-life side aren't given much of a choice. Vote for a dufus and hope he follows through wt his supreme court nominees and pro-life agenda, abstain from voting for the top of the ticket, or vote Gary Johnson, who while is personally pro-choice, he led NM in a more moderate way, allowing pro-life legislature to pass. The problem wt Gary, is he won't get elected and he had another 'Rick Perry' moment - not able to name his favorite foreign leader.

 

I also would turn the same questions around and ask any Hillary supporter, how, can you vote for such a corrupt, untruthful, untrustworthy person as she has demonstrate to be over an entire career and who has accomplished very little in her career other than gathering Titles after hanging onto Bill's coattails.

[Fru]

 

I also would turn the same questions around and ask any Hillary supporter, how, can you vote for such a corrupt, untruthful, untrustworthy person as she has demonstrate to be over an entire career and who has accomplished very little in her career other than gathering Titles after hanging onto Bill's coattails.

 

In an election like this, I'll take someone who's already been in the White House for 8 years, been a Senator and been Secretary of State. That experience matters.

 

I think Ted Cruz is one of the most repugnant humans alive, but I would not hesitate in picking him over Trump as well. I am not a fan of Hillary at all. But when you only have 2 choices... I'd begrudgingly go with her for 4 years, and hope for a much better choice in 2020.

[BigRedBuster]

If anyone is unsure of my stance on Trump, let me know and I will tell you.

 

That said, to answer the question, I wouldn't take any one person's opinion as so weighted that it would completely change my mind. Usually, I don't pay any attention to endorsements. However, this year is extremely interesting. This is just one example but it's an example of what has happened so often this year as far as endorsements.

 

Ariz. paper faces threats, loses subscribers after Clinton endorsement

 

The Arizona Republic is suffering some major blowback for its decision to back a Democrat over a Republican in a presidential campaign for the first time since its founding in 1890.

Since the paper published its endorsement of Hillary Clinton for president, it has faced asteady stream of subscription cancellations and even a death threat, according to a senior editor.

 

If this were an isolated situation, it would mean nothing to me. But, it's not.

[HuskermanMike]

 

I have a difficult time being thought of as a Trump supporter. So many flaws, but yes I am on the fence.

 

To answer your questions:

1. Who do you respect enough, that if they took a strong public stance against Trump you would listen and reconsider? Too many to list that I respect, but wouldn't change my stance.

2. Is there anything that he could say or do between now and election day to change your support of him? Short answer: No, not really. It's deeper than that.

 

And this is why I will eventually vote for him.

 

Trump is pro-life and supports the partial-birth abortion ban act. His list of conservative judges that he would consider for Supreme Court are all pro-life.

Hilary is for Roe vs Wade, and supports the partial-birth abortion procedure. She will only nominate judges for the Supreme Court that are not pro-life.

Trump's VP Pence is solid pro-life and votes for the partial-birth abortion ban act.

Hilary's VP Kaine votes against pro-life by supporting abortion, including late abortions.

　

The partial birth abortion procedure from the 5th month on pulls the living baby out of the womb by the feet, except for the head, puncturing the skull and suctioning out the brain.

Stats

Over One Million abortions are reported per year.

Roughly 17% of abortions are teenagers, 57% of women in their 20's, and 26% of women over 30 years of age through 44 years old. Which means, 83% of abortion procedures are being done by women between 20-44.

1% of all abortions performed have been reported as survivors of rape.

 

http://www.statisticbrain.com/abortion-statistics/

http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042

http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/2016POTUScomparison.pdf

So you see, it's not so much that I think he would be the best president ever!1, nor do I think anyone of remarkable influence that I respect could change my mind before voting. The older I get, hopefully the more wiser I become. I may not have made the best out of my life, but I was given a chance, just like y'all. And the best thing I can do is to stand up for the innocent, for the soon-to-be born, the one's who need our help (adults) - so that they get the opportunity to a life just like you and I - and not be snuffed out so quickly.

As hard as it may be to cast that vote for Donald, tell me, who is so wise to tell me I should reconsider and vote against what I stand for? I will at least listen.

 

See this is where I take issue with lots of Pro Lifers.

 

Many (not saying you specifically, but many) Pro Lifers profess to be all about caring for the "ones who can't protect themselves" and that "every life is sacred." That's all well and good for a zygote, however when it comes to other issues concerning life and well being, Pro Lifers are often times anti universal healthcare, anti common sense gun control laws, pro war, anti public assistance programs which largely benefit children, the disabled and the elderly, anti regulation, and against Environmental Protection laws.

 

You claim to be on the fence about this election because of your stance on abortion. Trump has often times questioned why other countries don't have and use nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. That is literally the most deadly force the world has ever seen. But your biggest concern is someone's private choice to take the Plan B pill? You're genuinely considering someone who encourages use of the deadliest weapons on earth, but might vote for him because he is against abortion? That does not compute with me.

 

I can very much appreciate someone's stance against abortion. Don't get me wrong. It's certainly not a fun topic. But abortion isn't going to matter a whole lot when Nukes are being launched across the globe.

 

That is a big generalization, I don't think gun control has anything to do with abortion or killing. Take em away, people will still find ways to get them and kill people, its just how it is. Also, where are these "pro war" claims you get, was it President Bush's decision that all of a sudden speaks for every pro life person? Only congress can declared war not Trump, that is also something a lot of people forget about. Bush declared war with the approval of Congress, if Trump wanted to just attack some country because he has the power, congress has to approve it. The last thing before I get back on topic is abortion is taking away someones chance of life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

 

I am voting Trump because he is pro-life, pro America, he isn't a globalist which is really good. The UN has tried to pass laws to limit our freedom actually, can't remember what they are called exactly but it limits how much water or electricity one can use, not a bad idea but that is an example of taking away a little bit of freedom. I think his trade deals will help us get money back and force other countries to pay tariffs like the US does. Also make companies that leave the country pay a fine is a good idea or a leaving fee can't remember exactly. Regardless that's a good way to keep companies and jobs in the US. Only way I don't vote for him is if he changes his stances on immigration, abortion or he says he won't fight for the people- so basically it would be hard for me to change my mind.

[Fru]

 

 

I have a difficult time being thought of as a Trump supporter. So many flaws, but yes I am on the fence.

 

To answer your questions:

1. Who do you respect enough, that if they took a strong public stance against Trump you would listen and reconsider? Too many to list that I respect, but wouldn't change my stance.

2. Is there anything that he could say or do between now and election day to change your support of him? Short answer: No, not really. It's deeper than that.

 

And this is why I will eventually vote for him.

 

Trump is pro-life and supports the partial-birth abortion ban act. His list of conservative judges that he would consider for Supreme Court are all pro-life.

Hilary is for Roe vs Wade, and supports the partial-birth abortion procedure. She will only nominate judges for the Supreme Court that are not pro-life.

Trump's VP Pence is solid pro-life and votes for the partial-birth abortion ban act.

Hilary's VP Kaine votes against pro-life by supporting abortion, including late abortions.

　

The partial birth abortion procedure from the 5th month on pulls the living baby out of the womb by the feet, except for the head, puncturing the skull and suctioning out the brain.

Stats

Over One Million abortions are reported per year.

Roughly 17% of abortions are teenagers, 57% of women in their 20's, and 26% of women over 30 years of age through 44 years old. Which means, 83% of abortion procedures are being done by women between 20-44.

1% of all abortions performed have been reported as survivors of rape.

 

http://www.statisticbrain.com/abortion-statistics/

http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042

http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/2016POTUScomparison.pdf

So you see, it's not so much that I think he would be the best president ever!1, nor do I think anyone of remarkable influence that I respect could change my mind before voting. The older I get, hopefully the more wiser I become. I may not have made the best out of my life, but I was given a chance, just like y'all. And the best thing I can do is to stand up for the innocent, for the soon-to-be born, the one's who need our help (adults) - so that they get the opportunity to a life just like you and I - and not be snuffed out so quickly.

As hard as it may be to cast that vote for Donald, tell me, who is so wise to tell me I should reconsider and vote against what I stand for? I will at least listen.

 

See this is where I take issue with lots of Pro Lifers.

 

Many (not saying you specifically, but many) Pro Lifers profess to be all about caring for the "ones who can't protect themselves" and that "every life is sacred." That's all well and good for a zygote, however when it comes to other issues concerning life and well being, Pro Lifers are often times anti universal healthcare, anti common sense gun control laws, pro war, anti public assistance programs which largely benefit children, the disabled and the elderly, anti regulation, and against Environmental Protection laws.

 

You claim to be on the fence about this election because of your stance on abortion. Trump has often times questioned why other countries don't have and use nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. That is literally the most deadly force the world has ever seen. But your biggest concern is someone's private choice to take the Plan B pill? You're genuinely considering someone who encourages use of the deadliest weapons on earth, but might vote for him because he is against abortion? That does not compute with me.

 

I can very much appreciate someone's stance against abortion. Don't get me wrong. It's certainly not a fun topic. But abortion isn't going to matter a whole lot when Nukes are being launched across the globe.

 

That is a big generalization, I don't think gun control has anything to do with abortion or killing. Take em away, people will still find ways to get them and kill people, its just how it is. Also, where are these "pro war" claims you get, was it President Bush's decision that all of a sudden speaks for every pro life person? Only congress can declared war not Trump, that is also something a lot of people forget about. Bush declared war with the approval of Congress, if Trump wanted to just attack some country because he has the power, congress has to approve it. The last thing before I get back on topic is abortion is taking away someones chance of life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

 

I am voting Trump because he is pro-life, pro America, he isn't a globalist which is really good. The UN has tried to pass laws to limit our freedom actually, can't remember what they are called exactly but it limits how much water or electricity one can use, not a bad idea but that is an example of taking away a little bit of freedom. I think his trade deals will help us get money back and force other countries to pay tariffs like the US does. Also make companies that leave the country pay a fine is a good idea or a leaving fee can't remember exactly. Regardless that's a good way to keep companies and jobs in the US. Only way I don't vote for him is if he changes his stances on immigration, abortion or he says he won't fight for the people- so basically it would be hard for me to change my mind.

 

Gun control has nothing to do with killing? 30,000 deaths a year from guns. If it were anything else causing that amount of deaths per year, it would certainly be addressed. But using your logic of "take guns away, people will still get them" one could argue that "making abortion illegal won't matter because people will still do it"

 

Many Pro Lifers tend to be Republican, and many Republicans are very pro war. Cheney, Kristol, McCain, Graham etc. I was talking about having Pro War attitudes, not necessarily declaring war.

 

You say Trump is Pro Life? Wanting to use nuclear weapons more often does not sound Pro Life to me.

 

Also, this is how Trump treated family members health care coverage. I wonder how much he would truly care about the average joe.

 

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/what-sort-of-man-is-donald-trump

"Even when it comes to a sick baby in his family, Donald Trump is all business. The megabuilder and his siblings Robert and Maryanne terminated their nephew’s family medical coverage a week after he challenged the will of their father, Fred Trump. “This was so shocking, so disappointing and so vindictive,” said niece Lisa Trump, whose son, William, was born 18 months ago at Mount Sinai Medical Center with a rare neurological disorder that produces violent seizures, brain damage and medical bills topping $300,000."

 

Doesn't sound very Pro Life to me.

 

Companies that leave the US? Like ... the companies that make Donald Trump Signature ties? Those kinds of companies?

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHoYbfOWwAE2eCO.jpg

[zoogs]

Trump is pro-life

*Maybe* this is true. Maybe it's lip service. Trump is venal and open to influence in a way that changes from day to day. Who will hold his legislative attention when he makes the Executive Powers of the United States of America open for business?

 

And a President has only so much political capital to expend. They may give their stances on everything, but will only pursue so much in office. Pay attention to Trump. We can see what his priorities are. What his instincts are. Is this really going to be a priority of his? Will he even have time to do anything, apart from going after his critics and hitting back at provocateurs foreign and domestic?

 

To the abortion question, I think none of us want to see more abortions. We all want to see less. Where you and I might differ is the extent to which we feel the government should be able to compel a woman to go through with a pregnancy.

 

But we have common ground, too, I would imagine. We both want to see the numbers of unwanted pregnancies drop to begin with. This can be combated; both education and contraceptive access are tools waiting to be used on the scale they need to be. And, really, the numbers have been falling recently, haven't they? It's encouraging, but it has to be sustained, vigorously. Attitudes towards these efforts isn't uniform. And to a large extent, this is about us, as private citizens, taking the actions we want to take to make this a better world.

 

Ask yourself: what kind of person is more likely to devote effort in this area as President? To combat these questions of health, access, and education disproportionately affecting the poor? To push for and expand government programs to fight this problem upstream?

 

And who would just gut social programs in order to give further handouts to the already advantaged?

 

In any case, admo, thanks for articulating your thoughts. We all have these issues of particular importance to us, and I am no different.

[admo]

Thanks for taking the time to reply Admo - I appreciate your perspective.

 

So it's really a one issue vote for you - does his past stance on the subject concern you at all? His pro life opinions have only been brought to light since about a year ago, before that he was publicly pro choice.

You're welcome NM, no problem. Yeah it's pretty much a one issue vote for me when you put it that way. And no, his past stance on abortion doesn't concern me too much because it's all in the past. We all have a past. What's more important and visible is where one stands today.

[admo]

 

I have a difficult time being thought of as a Trump supporter. So many flaws, but yes I am on the fence.

 

To answer your questions:

1. Who do you respect enough, that if they took a strong public stance against Trump you would listen and reconsider? Too many to list that I respect, but wouldn't change my stance.

2. Is there anything that he could say or do between now and election day to change your support of him? Short answer: No, not really. It's deeper than that.

 

And this is why I will eventually vote for him.

 

Trump is pro-life and supports the partial-birth abortion ban act. His list of conservative judges that he would consider for Supreme Court are all pro-life.

Hilary is for Roe vs Wade, and supports the partial-birth abortion procedure. She will only nominate judges for the Supreme Court that are not pro-life.

Trump's VP Pence is solid pro-life and votes for the partial-birth abortion ban act.

Hilary's VP Kaine votes against pro-life by supporting abortion, including late abortions.

　

The partial birth abortion procedure from the 5th month on pulls the living baby out of the womb by the feet, except for the head, puncturing the skull and suctioning out the brain.

Stats

Over One Million abortions are reported per year.

Roughly 17% of abortions are teenagers, 57% of women in their 20's, and 26% of women over 30 years of age through 44 years old. Which means, 83% of abortion procedures are being done by women between 20-44.

1% of all abortions performed have been reported as survivors of rape.

 

http://www.statisticbrain.com/abortion-statistics/

http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

http://www.christianliferesources.com/article/u-s-abortion-statistics-by-year-1973-current-1042

http://www.nrlc.org/uploads/2016POTUScomparison.pdf

So you see, it's not so much that I think he would be the best president ever!1, nor do I think anyone of remarkable influence that I respect could change my mind before voting. The older I get, hopefully the more wiser I become. I may not have made the best out of my life, but I was given a chance, just like y'all. And the best thing I can do is to stand up for the innocent, for the soon-to-be born, the one's who need our help (adults) - so that they get the opportunity to a life just like you and I - and not be snuffed out so quickly.

As hard as it may be to cast that vote for Donald, tell me, who is so wise to tell me I should reconsider and vote against what I stand for? I will at least listen.

 

See this is where I take issue with lots of Pro Lifers.

 

Many (not saying you specifically, but many) Pro Lifers profess to be all about caring for the "ones who can't protect themselves" and that "every life is sacred." That's all well and good for a zygote, however when it comes to other issues concerning life and well being, Pro Lifers are often times anti universal healthcare, anti common sense gun control laws, pro war, anti public assistance programs which largely benefit children, the disabled and the elderly, anti regulation, and against Environmental Protection laws.

 

You claim to be on the fence about this election because of your stance on abortion. Trump has often times questioned why other countries don't have and use nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. That is literally the most deadly force the world has ever seen. But your biggest concern is someone's private choice to take the Plan B pill? You're genuinely considering someone who encourages use of the deadliest weapons on earth, but might vote for him because he is against abortion? That does not compute with me.

 

I can very much appreciate someone's stance against abortion. Don't get me wrong. It's certainly not a fun topic. But abortion isn't going to matter a whole lot when Nukes are being launched across the globe.

 

I understand, most do (take issue) so don't feel like you are the first. For you and many, you make a strong case and I do my best to listen and try to understand where you are coming from.

 

So let me clarify my thoughts if I may. (Abortion) It's not only a deep concern about the soon-to-be born that get wiped out. It's also a deep concern for the women - the mothers - that deal with their decision after the procedure, especially down the road. Many women are able to collect themselves, put it behind them and move on. I've heard their stories. I also hear the stories of the countless women who experience such grief, a loss, a pit, an emptiness, a sadness, that leads to a rooted deep, dark depression that they live with each day for years and years and years. And for some, their entire life. The decision can be so regretful and painful for so many that it's almost like two lives have died (unborn and mother). Sure the woman is still alive physically, but that's about all that's left behind. And for other women though, they go through the procedure a second time, even a third time. The numbers for that is staggering too. All in all, over 50 million abortions performed in our country since the 70's. To me that involves 100 million that is affected by this decision (counting the moms as I mentioned).

 

I agree there are many other topics, including the one's you mention, that are very important to our country, and to me. There are views I like about the Dems, and views I don't, just like with the Rep party. No matter who becomes the POTUS, this person will not be able to please everybody. It has never happened before.

 

I understand that my stance doesn't make a lot of sense to you as you try to compute it all. I am okay with that. I am not too complex, nor am I a bright, sophisticated or brilliant political thinker as so many here are. No matter how much I read and try to absorb on this political forum! Maybe that is why we have such smart people voting that understand more than I am able to understand about every important topic out there. But I will tell you this.... I will do my part as well by voting for lives as a start. Abortion is the opposite of life. And abortion ALWAYS matters.