Ratt Mhule Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 hours ago, zoogs said: We're about to fire our coach. Y'all wanted the defections that come with that. Its the price that needs to be paid. Dont want to see another talented individual come to Nebraska and waste a year with the staff not knowing how to best utilize his talents like Tyjon Lindsey this season. 5 Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Rike Miley said: Its the price that needs to be paid. Dont want to see another talented individual come to Nebraska and waste a year with the staff not knowing how to best utilize his talents like Tyjon Lindsey this season. Agree, I dont know what the heck they are doing with Tyjon. Waste of talent and waste of a year. Go ahead and add Bradley to that list. 1 Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 ... Those guys are true freshmen 1 Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, zoogs said: ... Those guys are true freshmen So redshirt them if you arent going to utilize them correctly. Tyjon Lindsey going deep against a bigger Wisconsin cornerback is putting him into position to succeed, zoogs? Man, give me a break. A year wasted for nothing. Its a good thing a player like him would thrive in Scott Frosts offense. Get these smaller, quick guys in space and watch them succeed. Edited October 17, 2017 by Rike Miley 3 Quote Link to comment
zoogs Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Tyjon is getting a fair number of snaps and plenty of work in the passing game. Jaylin is needed depth right now. Both have a chance to come on as the year progresses. This is how freshmen years go. Will we be this displeased when Frost plays true freshmen who aren't immediate breakouts? Edited October 17, 2017 by zoogs Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Warrior10 said: Will OV FSU also. All of this was planned, just an FYI. He has also said he is all N as long as Riley and Williams are here. Odds are both will be gone, chance Williams could stay. Which means the odds of Moore being here is about 25% Quote Link to comment
spurs1990 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rike Miley said: So redshirt them if you arent going to utilize them correctly. Tyjon Lindsey going deep against a bigger Wisconsin cornerback is putting him into position to succeed, zoogs? Man, give me a break. A year wasted for nothing. Its a good thing a player like him would thrive in Scott Frosts offense. Get these smaller, quick guys in space and watch them succeed. Definitely just that easy huh? Think Tyjon came here with the intend of redshirting? "Man, give me a break" Edited October 17, 2017 by spurs1990 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, ScottyIce said: All of this was planned, just an FYI. Odd. One of the media guys noted yesterday that he wasn't planning to take any more visits after Wisconsin. Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, spurs1990 said: Definitely just that easy huh? Think Tyjon came here with the intend of redshirting? "Man, give me a break" Yes, it is that easy. Hey Tyjon, we feel youre not ready yet and we dont really have a plan to get you the ball, so were going to redshirt you. Hes the coach, he makes the final decision, not the kid. And if not then use him. Bubble screens, jet sweeps, etc. Get him in space. Coaching is about putting your players in position to succeed. Having him run a fly route against a CB that is 3+ inches taller is not good coaching/play calling. Jamire Calvin seems to be doing just fine at WSU. Sorry to go off on tangent, this will be the last post about TL. Just want to see JM be utilized correctly if he comes here and I don't trust this staff to do it. 5 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rike Miley said: Coaching is about putting your players in position to succeed. This. So much this (is true). So much not this (from these coaches). 2 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 39 minutes ago, ScottyIce said: All of this was planned, just an FYI. Even Nate Clouse said he is "worried" about the trip because Moore had previously said he wasn't taking any more trips and now has two planned. So I believe you just made this up. 4 Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Rike Miley said: Yes, it is that easy. Hey Tyjon, we feel youre not ready yet and we dont really have a plan to get you the ball, so were going to redshirt you. Hes the coach, he makes the final decision, not the kid. And if not then use him. Bubble screens, jet sweeps, etc. Get him in space. Coaching is about putting your players in position to succeed. Having him run a fly route against a CB that is 3+ inches taller is not good coaching/play calling. Jamire Calvin seems to be doing just fine at WSU. Sorry to go off on tangent, this will be the last post about TL. Just want to see JM be utilized correctly if he comes here and I don't trust this staff to do it. Agree. If your going to play Tyjon then use him how you should. He should be playing the slot like JD Spielman. They are using him like he is a #1 WR playing the outside. He is not 6'2 or taller body type. His body type and his agility is perfectly suited for the slot. Short, quick routes, changing directions etc. 1 Quote Link to comment
Caliborn72 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Huskers93-97 said: Agree. If your going to play Tyjon then use him how you should. He should be playing the slot like JD Spielman. They are using him like he is a #1 WR playing the outside. He is not 6'2 or taller body type. His body type and his agility is perfectly suited for the slot. Short, quick routes, changing directions etc. That was a major part of KW’s pitch to him haha. "In terms of the scheme at Ohio State, I would have been more of a situational player. I would play some in the backfield, some in the slot, some at receiver and basically move around to take advantage of mismatches but I don't think I would have developed as well as a receiver being used that way. "A perfect example is what happened with DeAnthony Thomas. That's a guy I'm close to and we play a lot alike. At Oregon, he was that situational guy, moved around a lot and had success but when he got to the NFL, he didn't really have a position. He's now playing receiver and has to basically start from scratch in how to play and how to run routes. But guess who's training him, who he picked to teach him how to run routes in the off-season and learn the position, Coach Williams." Quote Link to comment
spurs1990 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I mean he's what, 6 games into roughly a 45 game career? Maybe they feel that Spielman is better than him at this point. If that's the case, do you want them putting Tyjon in a spot where there is already a better player? DPE has been in that role as well too. Tyjon had opportunities and has played a lot of snaps. I'm not arguing that this isn't the most ideal spot for him, but who else besides Stanley is going to play on the outside? If Spielman and DPE are more effective in that slot position at this point, and there is no one else to play on the outside better than Tyjon what in the world do you expect them to do? The mistake came in not filling the class. Now they are simply working with the pieces that are at their disposal. Still the coaching staff's mistake for not signing another receiver, but I'm having a hard time finding fault in them playing two kids above Tyjon that have been producing (JD more than DPE). If you'd rather have Rahn, Young, and Reimers on the field on the edge and not Tyjon, that's your choice. Personally I'll take the undersized Tyjon still. That topic is no where near what this thread is about so I'll conclude with a thought about Moore. I'm still under the impression that he's N until Riley is officially gone. Obviously as the previous rants by multiple parties have indicated, we need a receiver of this stature. Edited October 17, 2017 by spurs1990 Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Mavric said: Even Nate Clouse said he is "worried" about the trip because Moore had previously said he wasn't taking any more trips and now has two planned. So I believe you just made this up. Woah man. I actually apologize if I'm inaccurate. I've become a bit numb to the recruiting of this class because it's going to go up in smoke as soon as riley is fired, which he basically is already. Im not sure if I misunderstood something, but I did think he was planning to take visits. These past few weeks have been nuts. I apologize for being wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment
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