Trump's America

[ZRod]

16 hours ago, knapplc said:

I actually read that commentary on The Hill. The woman who wrote it lamented the fact that we're talking about Trump's unhealthy weight and cited a number of other issues we should be talking about. 

 

Except that I've seen dozens of tweets and you'll find headlines on every website discussing every one of those issues. It's like she thinks that if we spend any time talking about Trump's weight, we can't spend any time talking about anything else.

 

As if we can't walk & chew gum at the same time.  Super weak argument. 

Still, I think his weight is right up there with the health of his marriage. Unless it's going to kill him in office, who cares? It seems he's healthy enough to survive his tour.

[QMany]

33 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Still, I think his weight is right up there with the health of his marriage. Unless it's going to kill him in office, who cares? It seems he's healthy enough to survive his tour.

 

To some extent, POTUS should lead by example, and that includes marital relationships and health. He is fat, has diagnosed heart disease with very high cholesterol, doesn't exercise, and doesn't eat well. He has cheated on every wife he has ever had, brags about it, cheats on pregnant and/or new mother of his child with a porn star, and pays said mistresses off. I think it all kind of goes into the bucket that shows Donald Trump is a POS.

[knapplc]

8 minutes ago, QMany said:

 

To some extent, POTUS should lead by example, and that includes marital relationships and health. He is fat, has diagnosed heart disease with very high cholesterol, doesn't exercise, and doesn't eat well. He has cheated on every wife he has ever had, brags about it, cheats on pregnant and/or new mother of his child with a porn star, and pays said mistresses off. I think it all kind of goes into the bucket that shows Donald Trump is a POS.

 

But Evangelical Christians love him. Their pastors lay hands on him to bless him.  It's the craziest thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[knapplc]

Christian hero, Donald Trump.

 

 

[TGHusker]

Knapp - no to the Christian hero  thing.  It is one thing to pray for the president as we are encouraged to do - pray for kings and all in authority so that we might live peaceful lives - as the Apostle Paul tells his disciple Timothy in 1Timothy2:1-3  - and it is another thing to not have the discernment to know that you are being used by the deceiver in chief for his own ends wt those photo ops.  While Trump can be commended for standing up for religious liberties, it is duplicity for him to do so when on the other hand he pushes down the rights of others and/or gives equal 'balance' to hate groups to get their message out.   This tells me that at his core he is hollow and his verbiage to promote religious liberties is opportunistic at best.  

[knapplc]

Christians are among Trump's strongest supporters, and have continued to poll heavily in his favor throughout this past year, despite everything.

 

The numbers don't lie.

 

http://www.people-press.org/2017/12/07/stark-partisan-divisions-over-russia-probe-including-its-importance-to-the-nation/

 

[TGHusker]

Knapp - I don't disagree wt those #s at all.  It is unfortunate.   Is it hero worship? - I don't think so. I think it is 2 camps scratching each other's back - Trump uses the evangelical vote to gain and keep power (he needed their votes to win) by dishonestly speaking their language (TWO Corithians) and doing their 'bidding' and the evangelicals taking advantage of this opportunity to address long held grievances through an unlikely channel - As someone said if God can use a donkey (Balaam's) in the Bible, God can use this a..

[BigRedBuster]

I’ve reached my limit for the month so I don’t know specifically what it’s about. 

 

 

[TGHusker]

13 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

I’ve reached my limit for the month so I don’t know specifically what it’s about. 

 

 

This is a large portion of the article:

 

 

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WASHINGTON — As they departed the now famous Oval Office meeting where President Trump used vulgar language to disparage the national origin of some potential immigrants, Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard J. Durbin found themselves in a condition unfamiliar to such veteran politicians: speechless.

“After Lindsey and I left the room and got in the car together to come back to Capitol Hill, it was silence in the car,” Mr. Durbin, of Illinois, recalled in an interview on Thursday, describing their mutual distress at the ominous turn the negotiations had taken as well as the president’s conduct. “We had just witnessed something that neither one of us ever expected.”

That sudden breakdown in talks toward a bipartisan immigration solution has had significant repercussions. In the absence of a deal to permanently protect young immigrants in what is known as the Deferred Action for  Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, the Republican-controlled House and Senate are now struggling to keep the government open past Friday.

And the uproar surrounding the disclosure of Mr. Trump’s language has added a huge complication, stirring outrage among Democrats and their allies and sowing confusion among Republicans about the president’s true aims. Most Democrats are refusing to help pass any temporary spending plan without the immigration legislation and Republicans are having a difficult time rounding up votes on their own.

In recounting events, Mr. Durbin, the No. 2 Senate Democrat, who has been pushing to protect young immigrants for nearly two decades, noted that he had a promising telephone call with Mr. Trump hours before last week’s meeting. Then he was invited to join Mr. Graham, Republican of South Carolina and a longtime advocate of an immigration law overhaul, at the White House for what they believed was a session to complete a bipartisan agreement to protect the young immigrants known as Dreamers in exchange for new border security and other immigration law changes.

Instead, they ran into a buzz saw of angry and coarse opposition from the president, reinforced by the surprise presence of hard-line opponents of immigration overhaul from the House and Senate.

“The deck was stacked against us as the president walked in the room,” said Mr. Durbin, who said Mr. Graham, seated next to the president, began laying out the specifics of the pending agreement only to have the meeting quickly deteriorate.

 

“He barely had a sentence or two out of his mouth, then the president started commenting. ‘Who is affected by that? What is this going to do?’” said Mr. Durbin, the sole Democrat of a dozen people present. “It was a very tough conversation starting immediately.”

“The language that was used, the attitude of the president, the expressions he made when it came to immigration just stunned me,” Mr. Durbin said.

Mr. Durbin, who has been in Congress for more than three decades and is no stranger to political back rooms, said the meeting was not the usual case of salty language shared among politicians gathered behind closed doors.

“It was beyond, and the intensity of the president’s feeling, and what he said there, as well as many other epithets during the course of it, I was surprised and shocked in a way,” he said, noting that upon his return to the Capitol, some colleagues commented on his demeanor.

“They said, ‘You look shaken,’ and I said I was,” he said. “After you have been in politics as long I have, it takes something to shake you up.”

Mr. Durbin said he did not personally leak details of the conversation and also directed his staff not to discuss it. But he did share his version of events with four other senators as they plotted how to proceed. Word of what happened during the meeting — and one word in particular — quickly circulated and was first reported by The Washington Post within hours.

 

 

[knapplc]

 

[TGHusker]

5 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Yes pretty bad optics and even worse judgment.   

[knapplc]

Here's Trump speaking to the Washington DC March for Life rally today.  Note the religious shirts.

 

 

And he's lying to them, but they (probably) don't care.

 

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Trump decries 'permissive' U.S. abortion laws at rally

 

The Republican president’s speech, relayed via video link from the White House Rose Garden to thousands gathered on Washington’s National Mall, highlighted his shift in recent years from a supporter of women’s access to abortion to a powerful opponent.

 

“As you all know, Roe v. Wade has resulted in some of the most permissive abortion laws anywhere in the world,” he said, criticizing the 1973 Supreme Court decision that affirmed a woman’s right to an abortion at most stages of a pregnancy.

 

Trump said the United States “is one of only seven countries to allow elective late-term abortions,” mentioning China and North Korea. “It is wrong. It has to change.”

 

 

But the bold is a lie.

[BigRedBuster]

Meanwhile, not that long ago, he supported abortion rights and candidates who supported those rights.

 

Maybe that's what he was consulting wit the porn star about.  

[FrankWheeler]

 

[BigRedBuster]

The first reporter to ask this question should be given a life time salary of his/her choice.

 

Heck....Since Trump doesn't answer questions from reporters, how about asking his press secretary????