Trump's America

[Landlord]

In addition to that, I'd also like to see a response to all of the other posts documenting people's lives being absolutely destroyed in a moment, and not just a selective response in regards to Trump's business dealings.

[RedDenver]

 

Things that make you go hmmm...

Those countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and UAE) have the infrastructure in place to allow them to identify and screen who is getting on their airplanes perhaps?

 

You're reaching here. And you left Azerbaijan off the list.

[GM_Tood]

 

 

Things that make you go hmmm...

Those countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and UAE) have the infrastructure in place to allow them to identify and screen who is getting on their airplanes perhaps?

 

You're reaching here. And you left Azerbaijan off the list.

 

Maybe a little as that was my thought on a possible reason before I actually did a little homework on the subject. Trump didn't hand pick those 7 countries. The Executive Order contains this language:

 

It says that it seeks “Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern.” It also says“I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order.”

 

The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern. In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.” It noted “the three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals.”

 

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/

[HuskersNC949597]

 

 

Things that make you go hmmm...

Those countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and UAE) have the infrastructure in place to allow them to identify and screen who is getting on their airplanes perhaps?

 

Are you implying that people in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Yemen and Somalia can just get on any old airplane and fly to America?

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131

 

Apparently?

[Danny Bateman]

Shocking news!

[ZRod]

 

Things that make you go hmmm...

https://twitter.com/business/status/825259696789606400

 

Those countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and UAE) have the infrastructure in place to allow them to identify and screen who is getting on their airplanes perhaps?

You know what three of those countries also have in common? The only foreign terrorist who have killed on US soil, on and after 9/11, came from those countries. 9/11 attackers, and one San Bernardino shooter.

[Bigred_inSD]

 

 

Things that make you go hmmm...

https://twitter.com/business/status/825259696789606400

 

Those countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and UAE) have the infrastructure in place to allow them to identify and screen who is getting on their airplanes perhaps?

You know what three of those countries also have in common? The only foreign terrorist who have killed on US soil, on and after 9/11, came from those countries. 9/11 attackers, and one San Bernardino shooter.

Don't spew facts. No place for that in Trump land. Just fear monger.

 

On a serious note. When we bleed the Saudi's dry of oil I give it less than 6 months before we aren't allies do to 9-11 and their human Rights violations

[Danny Bateman]

 

This is for National Security Council meetings. Members removed & added, for those keeping score at home:

 

Removed -

 

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford

 

 

Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats:

 

 

Added -

 

Assistant to President for Homeland Security and Counter-Terrorism Gen. Michael Flynn:

 

 

Assistant to President and Chief Strategist Steve Bannon:

 

 

So we've got the "Islamism is cancer" and the "my kids can't go to school with whiny brat Jews" guys tasked with keeping us safe.

[zoogs]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/white-house-holocaust-memorial-day/index.html

 

Washington (CNN) The White House statement on International Holocaust Remembrance Day didn't mention Jews or anti-Semitism because "despite what the media reports, we are an incredibly inclusive group and we took into account all of those who suffered," administration spokeswoman Hope Hicks told CNN on Saturday.

A prefect demonstration of the #AllLivesMatter approach.

[NM11046]

Ummmm - who else suffered during the holocaust?

 

These people need to pick up a history book, or go to one of the MANY museums just down the street there in DC.

[zoogs]

Ummmm - who else suffered during the holocaust?

 

These people need to pick up a history book, or go to one of the MANY museums just down the street there in DC.

It's true that Jews weren't the only ones to suffer from the Nazi extermination efforts. This is not factually inaccurate:

 

Hicks provided a link to a Huffington Post UK story noting that while 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, 5 million others were also slaughtered during Adolf Hitler's genocide, including "priests, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, Jehovah's Witnesses, anarchists, Poles and other Slavic peoples, and resistance fighters."

That's still a remarkably poor excuse to gloss over the astonishing suffering of the Jewish people at the hands of the Nazi regime. By all means, name everyone. But don't give an inch to the anti-Semites and the Holocaust deniers.

[NM11046]

 

Ummmm - who else suffered during the holocaust?

 

These people need to pick up a history book, or go to one of the MANY museums just down the street there in DC.

It's true that Jews weren't the only ones to suffer from the Nazi extermination efforts. This is not factually inaccurate:

 

Hicks provided a link to a Huffington Post UK story noting that while 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, 5 million others were also slaughtered during Adolf Hitler's genocide, including "priests, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, Jehovah's Witnesses, anarchists, Poles and other Slavic peoples, and resistance fighters."

That's still a remarkably poor excuse to gloss over the astonishing suffering of the Jewish people at the hands of the Nazi regime. By all means, name everyone. But don't give an inch to the anti-Semites and the Holocaust deniers.

 

True - certainly there were many targets (gays & lesbians were another bigly persecuted group), but come on. Actually, when you look at those categories it's erie isn't it? History does indeed repeat itself. I think they didn't want to name any of them because there are already so many quotes by him on the books that are against these same groups it would have been a $hitstorm.

 

I guess in a positive sense, it will only secure even more the jewish loyalty to Democrats in the future.

[Red Five]

 

[zoogs]

Another one of the Trump EOs, this one from 25 January:

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/presidential-executive-order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united

 

'Executive Order: Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States'

 

Sec. 13. Office for Victims of Crimes Committed by Removable Aliens. The Secretary shall direct the Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to take all appropriate and lawful action to establish within U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement an office to provide proactive, timely, adequate, and professional services to victims of crimes committed by removable aliens and the family members of such victims. This office shall provide quarterly reports studying the effects of the victimization by criminal aliens present in the United States.

 

Sec. 14. Privacy Act. Agencies shall, to the extent consistent with applicable law, ensure that their privacy policies exclude persons who are not United States citizens or lawful permanent residents from the protections of the Privacy Act regarding personally identifiable information.

I believe this is the Privacy Act in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Act_of_1974

[ColoNoCoHusker]

Another one of the Trump EOs, this one from 25 January:

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/presidential-executive-order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united

 

'Executive Order: Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States'

 

Sec. 13. Office for Victims of Crimes Committed by Removable Aliens. The Secretary shall direct the Director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to take all appropriate and lawful action to establish within U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement an office to provide proactive, timely, adequate, and professional services to victims of crimes committed by removable aliens and the family members of such victims. This office shall provide quarterly reports studying the effects of the victimization by criminal aliens present in the United States.

 

Sec. 14. Privacy Act. Agencies shall, to the extent consistent with applicable law, ensure that their privacy policies exclude persons who are not United States citizens or lawful permanent residents from the protections of the Privacy Act regarding personally identifiable information.

I believe this is the Privacy Act in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Act_of_1974

 

 

That correct but here is the DOJ version updated for 2015... https://www.justice.gov/opcl/overview-privacy-act-1974-2015-edition

 

The P.I.I. piece alone will have wide-ranging ramifications and end up being costly for lots of citizens. PII exists as part of every financial system as well every audit/industry information standard across numerous markets (HIPAA, FERPA, GLBA, PCI, etc). The direction I have heard so far is the exclusions are expected to be enforced. That is to say a non-citizen with a US credit card, the PII attached to the credit card CANNOT be encrypted without violating this. Similar interpretation to healthcare systems right now. Corporate America will fight this as the financial cost will easily be in the $Billions if this early direction holds.