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I also think it's important for viewers/readers to look in the mirror in these situations.

 

 

 

I don't disagree, but the greater burden lies with the Press, not the consumer. Consumers are susceptible, and networks know this. It's why advertising works.

 

Consumers will consume whatever they put out there. The networks have to have a greater responsibility in the content they provide.

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Wow....I guess it's time to turn on Joe.

 

So....they have a morning news show. They aren't supposed to have a guy on that's running for president?

 

It's now MSNBCs fault he won? That's a new twist.

 

You don't think Joe and CNN having Trump call in every morning played a factor in getting the nomination?

 

He's a Presidential candidate that was more than willing to call in and talk to them. Any news network would have done it and would do it again.

 

Criticizing any of them for him getting nominated is quite odd.

 

 

Do you think they would have taken Rubio or Jeb calls everyday for months? Hell no. That would have tanked their ratings during those segments.

 

So, they had Trump on saying loony toon wacko things. The voters heard these things over and over again. They should have viewed him as a total nut job and not voted for him.

 

 

And....it's the news network's fault.

 

 

IMO the networks gave his loony toon wacko things legitimacy.

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Another odd thing about blaming Joe for Trump being elected.

 

How many Trump voters do you think watch MSNBC?

 

I don't know, I guess there are a few that "hate watch"?

 

I mean my mid 60s dad "hate watches" Fox News all the time and he hasn't voted for a R president since Reagan.

 

But I am not just blaming Joe here, I am blaming the other shows that gave him the same fawning coverage early on.

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I also think it's important for viewers/readers to look in the mirror in these situations.

 

 

I don't disagree, but the greater burden lies with the Press, not the consumer. Consumers are susceptible, and networks know this. It's why advertising works.

 

Consumers will consume whatever they put out there. The networks have to have a greater responsibility in the content they provide.

I don't disagree, either. My point is, far too often, the consumer ignores or at least appears to completely shed responsibility for what type of news coverage is out there.

 

Media entities are the gateway, so culpability will almost always lean in their court, but whether it's 80/20, 70/30 or whatever is a bit irrelevant to me.

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When Trump went on the talk shows & cable news early in the campaign, he was treated as if he was a TV show host, not a candidate. He was given a pulpit because he said bombastic things. Nobody took him seriously as a candidate until late in the primary season, and by then the media had gotten so addicted to the ratings he provided that they kept showing his speeches nearly start-to-finish, providing him excellent free advertising.

 

Because they didn't see him as a real candidate, or as a candidate with even a remote chance of winning, they didn't critically analyze him, didn't hold him accountable like they would Obama, McCain, Romney, Bush, Gore, Clinton, etc. Any other candidate saying these things would be immediately called on the carpet. That favorable treatment allowed Trump a safe space to fester.

 

Nobody with any real political sense thought Trump would win, so nobody treated him like a real candidate.

 

So, yes, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and anyone else who had Trump on during the primaries for ratings is culpable for his win.

 

This didn't stop with the campaign, either. People are STILL grading Trump on a curve. The GOP uses it to give him cover.

 

Imagine any of those names making 1/10th the mistakes Trump has made. What would the reaction be across the political spectrum? From voters? From the media?

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This didn't stop with the campaign, either. People are STILL grading Trump on a curve. The GOP uses it to give him cover.

 

Imagine any of those names making 1/10th the mistakes Trump has made. What would the reaction be across the political spectrum? From voters? From the media?

Yes. It'd be a bloodbath out there if a "real" politician was doing any of these things.

 

If Hillary were in office and doing these things, or Chelsea had released an email similar to Jr.'s email, there would be hell to pay.

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I can believe that {insert normal politician here, any party} would have an aide...maybe even a family member? ... who gets courted in this unscrupulous way and does the complete wrong thing.

 

I can't for the life of me imagine any other outcome than that politician coming out and totally repudiating the act, asking for amends/etc, and accepting the censure/charges/etc that need to arise.

 

Actually, maybe that's being a little lenient. I'm thinking of Iran Contra now. But this is something else.

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Loosely press related, if you can call this press.

 

My appreciation for Chelsea Clinton has grown since the election. Not in an "I hope she runs for office" kind of way - I'm sure some of you will want to hurt just reading that.

 

But in an "I'm going to stand up for myself and my family as they continue to be attacked" kind of a way.

 

The way Fox News talks about people they target is disgusting and infuriating. Especially coming from these pretty faces who get paid to churn out "analysis" like this.

 

 

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Couldn't agree with you more dude. She is polished, succinct but obviously not going to take the abuse laying down. A great example for others, and a something both of her parents should be very proud of.

 

Edit: vs some of the other children of presidents:

 

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I have zero problem with Chelsea Clinton running for office. She has an accomplished education in international relations and public policy. Depending on the office maybe you'd like to see more of a public service record in practice -- but there are far, far worse backgrounds from which to break into politics.

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