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#51 NUance

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:54 PM

Clemson recruiting rankings from 2010 to 2016: 28 10 15 15 17 9 11

 

Looks like they broke that string of teams having a top 5 class before winning the Natty

 

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:56 PM

Since 2011 Clemsons QBs have completed 68% of their passes compared to Nebraskas 57%. They also had over 70 more TDs but only 3 more INTs (I believe it was with over 700 more attempts). If Nebraska QBs completed 10% more of their passes and cutback on the INTs we would have won more games IMO

Better QB play = more wins

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 05:01 PM

 

 

 

Since 2011 Clemsons QBs have completed 68% of their passes compared to Nebraskas 57%. They also had over 70 more TDs but only 3 more INTs (I believe it was with over 700 more attempts). If Nebraska QBs completed 10% more of their passes and cutback on the INTs we would have won more games IMO

Better QB play = more wins

Which is the main reason I think we might actually see a better team next year.  For all the times Tommy saved us, there's probably just as many examples, if not more, where he killed drives, momentum and ultimately lost us the game bc he couldn't make a pass that should be relatively easy for most QBs to make.  Whether Tanner Lee or POB is the real deal or not, I can not understate how excited I am to see someone able to actually pass the ball with some touch and (hopefully) accuracy.

 

 

This is an excellent point, and it is also the reason Clemson beat Bama.  Clemson had 99 snaps compared to the low 60's for Bama.  If a QB and offense can sustain drives, they're in a good position to win.  One of the reasons our defense over the years has been bad is because they're just out on the field too many snaps.  Martinez was good for killing drives as well.  Even the great Bama defense broke after being on the field for 99 snaps. 

 

One thing to add to a QB who can sustain drives.  Instead of going 3 and out from our 25 yd line, a QB who can drive across the 50 yard line or more can at least allow us to try a FG or punt the ball inside the opposing teams 10 yd line. That gives our D a head start and forces the other team to drive the whole field.  We have had great kicking and punting specialists at Nebraska.

 

 

It's also about time of possession.  Clemson held the ball for over ten minutes longer of the game than Bama did.  Bama probably has the best defensive players in the country.  Even they buckled from being out there so long.  I don't think Clemson did anything magical in the second half.  They just wore Bama out much like we did to Miami back in the 94' bowl.  This is still what makes the 09' defense so good.  They took this kind of abuse week in and week out never buckling.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:39 AM

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:57 AM

 

Clemson recruiting rankings from 2010 to 2016: 28 10 15 15 17 9 11
 
Looks like they broke that string of teams having a top 5 class before winning the Natty

IIRC, the stat is every champ has top 10 class within 4 seasons of winning the title since like 2001.

 

 

According to this, Oklahoma in 2000 was the last team to win a NC without a top 5 recruiting class the previous 4 seasons. (Not sure what recruiting service is used)

 

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:12 AM

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 02:49 PM

I don't know how you can call the Huskers a 'sleeping' giant, in seriousness. On what hotbed of talent is Nebraska sitting? More like a traditional power that will take a lot of work as well as serious strokes of fortune to crawl back to its former glory.

When I think of 'sleeping giant', I think some program like TCU once was that is ripe for the opportunity, not via history/pedigree but as a result of having a lot of external factors going for them by default.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 03:23 PM

I think tabbing any team from the SEC is kind of a cop-out. Sometimes I think they just have a meeting and decide who is gonna make a run this year. "Auburn it's your turn". So I think Georgia, Texas A&M will get their turn. No Notre Dame, Tennessee or Texas, does that mean they are back? Not sleeping giants? Dead giants? 


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 04:23 PM

I'm seeing only Alabama & Ohio State as having sustained excellence, and Alabama is less than a decade removed from mediocrity. 

 

That would be two awake giants, and pretty much everyone else a sleeping giant. A team like Baylor can wake up for a couple years, then quietly go back to sleep. UCLA has every asset we supposedly lack, but always gets caught napping when greatness calls. I predict Clemson will get a little drowsy next year without its game-changing quarterback. 

 

Coaches can definitely infuse a culture, but the inspirational words Dabo Swinney fed his team are the same motivational catch phrases used by every coach in every team sport, not to mention the director of every corporate sales force. They always sound profound when you're winning, but it's the same message you give teams that fail to measure up. 

 

Basically it's more fun to win, and winning begats winning. But it's really hard to sustain. Nebraska's 40 year run isn't likely to be repeated. 


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:51 PM

 

 

Clemson recruiting rankings from 2010 to 2016: 28 10 15 15 17 9 11
 
Looks like they broke that string of teams having a top 5 class before winning the Natty

IIRC, the stat is every champ has top 10 class within 4 seasons of winning the title since like 2001.

 

 

According to this, Oklahoma in 2000 was the last team to win a NC without a top 5 recruiting class the previous 4 seasons. (Not sure what recruiting service is used)

 

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Great Quotes from that article (link) :

 

 

"How much do recruiting rankings matter? They're everything."

 

"Nearly half of all five stars will be drafted. Around one percent of all two stars will be drafted."

 

"...recruiting is essentially a game of probability. the more top players you get into your program the more chances you have to develop elite first round talent."


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:54 PM

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 08:16 PM

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