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Now I want to throw a different slant on this whole investigation for our discussion of the Russian hacking of the election. If there was collusion between Trump and the Russians - and I think there was at best a wink and nod or at worse - direct ties between the two,-- there is another angle that we need to look at as well. This will rile up some partisan feathers here but if we want to look at this honestly we have to also look at our gov't's failure to protect us from the Russian hack and the collusion wt Trump. Trump wasn't president during and before the election. The prior administration it appears knew something was going on between Russia and the Trump operatives. The FBI was listening. They knew about Flynn, etc. The investigation at hand must also look at the breakdown of our security agencies that would allow hackers to get into 39 states. Before you say "I'm blaming Obama for what Trump did or what the Russian's did" Stop. I'm not - I'm saying there has been a breakdown in security to allow this to happen. Not unlike the breakdown that allowed China to hack into the govt personnel files a few years ago. Who's fault is that - can it be blamed on an administration, an agency, or is it just 'the way things are in our digital age and we have to live wt hacks??? :dunno Yes, hackers are very smart, have all kinds of tools at their disposal but we have to be diligent to protect from the possibilities.

But it is a side of this whole issue we cannot ignore less it happens again and the failure being even greater.

Two separate issues:

1. Trump and the Russian connection = hacking

2. Preventing # 1 from happening again. To prevent, we have to understand what went wrong the 1st time.

 

(Disclaimer - I'm not a techno wiz kid - so someone wt greater tech knowledge can present the challenges faced by our agencies in protecting our institutions from hackers).

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She was trying to hold him accountable, and he was flailing but (I don't think) if McCain hadn't jumped in I don't think Burr would have done anything. He was as pissed at McCain for stepping on his toes as he was at her.

 

She was pushing, but not inappropriately so imo. He was filibustering the entire day and somebody needed to get him to stop.

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She was trying to corner him while he was attempting his filibuster. He was in the middle of citing "the principle of allowing the president to be informed about the questions before deciding to invoke executive privilege" (which is absurd - he was essentially saying he couldn't answer because he wanted to give Trump the option to use executive privilege when he HADN'T).

 

He was trying to stall and citing that nonsense when she attempted to clarify that he had no legal basis for his refusal to answer. She tried to halt his nonsense and Burr claimed she wasn't letting him talk.

 

It was pretty weak, IMO. I tweeted at her I appreciated it and to keep it up.

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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article155988584.html

 

Per this commentator, don't expect all of this to be resolved soon. Besides the real need to get to the truth, there is also a political angle as well. It is in the Dems best interest to keep this in

the political lime light as long as possible. I'm ok wt that - as long as it brings us to the truth and sometimes it takes a long time to get to the truth of the matter. However, even with that, if the

truth were found out today, it will remain a political issue for sometime. The reps did it wt Libya, emails, etc and etc. Now it will be the Dems turn. Sign of the times of our partisan govt.

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I find it interesting that the House and Senate have overwhelmingly passed legislation that puts new sanctions on Russia for meddling in our election....meanwhile....we have a President who has not supported the investigation, constantly denied it was happening during the election, has constantly said it's nothing more than Democrats making excuses for losing the election and....to my knowledge....has never acknowledged that it actually happened.

 

He is doing such a bang up job at leading this country in a manor that protects it from foreign enemies.

 

So...does he sign the bill????

 

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I find it interesting that the House and Senate have overwhelmingly passed legislation that puts new sanctions on Russia for meddling in our election....meanwhile....we have a President who has not supported the investigation, constantly denied it was happening during the election, has constantly said it's nothing more than Democrats making excuses for losing the election and....to my knowledge....has never acknowledged that it actually happened.

 

He is doing such a bang up job at leading this country in a manor that protects it from foreign enemies.

 

So...does he sign the bill????

 

Depends on what the Russian's tell him to do :o:cheers

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A) Trump constantly feels vindicated.

 

B) I don't think he much cares if things are actually going well or poorly for him. If the FBI isn't being sufficiently pliant to his will, he will simply try to crush them. (Are these even FBI leaks?...)

 

If Trump can take a sledgehammer to public faith in institutions that don't support him, he'll come out of this okay. The blueprint for this is already out there; don't think he won't bring those institutions to heel given enough time. Most of all don't think he's not trying.

 

It's scary how much eroding public trust in institutions is the wet dream of American adversaries. Now they have a President actively working for those interests, bringing them further along than they ever thought possible -- all to save his own skin.

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