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You all know I'm not a Trump fan. However, being off HB for the past several days, I did expect to see a thread about the Kathy Griffin disgusting lack of sound judgment in doing the

ISIS like 'art' of holding the severed faked head of President Trump. (maybe someone posted in one of the other threads :dunno - giving the benefit of the doubt)

Regardless of your opinion of Trump and his policies, this liberal, leftist loon should be soundly denounced for

her actions. So where is the moral outrage on HB? Liberals can you denounce one of your own or is your 'righteous' wrath only reserved for the 'alt right'.

I see CNN did the right thing in dumbing her from their New Year Eve show. This in not unlike the leftists who celebrated the movie depicting the assassination of GWB

which came out during his administration.

 

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/cnn-kathy-griffin-donald-trump-beheading-1202448875/

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4558522/Trump-says-Kathy-Griffin-ashamed-herself.html

 

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This in not unlike the leftists who celebrated the movie depicting the assassination of GWB which came out during his administration.

 

Or the right-wingers that lynched and burned Obama and Clinton effigies. Except those were Pastors, not sensationalist comedians.

 

Like knapplc said, nobody is defending her. I don't know if she should be charged with a crime, but her behavior is abhorrent.

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Liberals are reliably good at eating their own. They don't call us social justice warriors for nothing! Sometimes it's fair, sometimes it's not, sometimes it's not clear but nonetheless provides a poignant debate.

 

If you want to ask "where is the outrage", you should direct that question to the conservatives who happily excused, defended, or even embraced worse than this tasteless display from Ms. Griffin. The same ones who are most eager to jump aboard and advance the "leftists are loons" arguments they always believed in. These people do not believe in freedom of expression except to use it as a legal bludgeon against their political foes.

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Ok call off the dogs. I stand corrected. :worship I'm glad to see there are some posts on the subject after all. I did say: (maybe someone posted in one of the other threads :dunno - giving the benefit of the doubt)

And by the way, QMany, I don't care for right wingers burning effigies of Obama or Clinton either. Those were despicable acts as well.

And Knapp, regarding Ted Nugent, I don't follow him or know what he has done or would have done to come to the level of Kathy Griffin. I've paid 0 attention to him. If he is on that dirt bag level, then Trump shouldn't have invited him to the WH. You also make it sound like there are no liberals on HB with your post above - the broad statement of telling me 1000x. There are liberals on HB - on some subjects we agree and on some we disagree. The same is also true of moderates. I'm not walking lock step wt the most conservative posters on HB either (maybe I did 1-2 years years ago but I'm moderating my positions)- if I was, I'd be defending Trump like some are (and again Trump isn't a true conservative but has hijacked the movement - but that is for another thread)

Let's just :flush this thread and start back before I had the ADHD moment of outrage myself.

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Ted Nugent on Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in 2007 (source: Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/quote-of-the-day-ted-nugent-threatens-barack-obama/256025/)

"Obama, he's a piece of sh#t. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary [Clinton], you might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.”

In 2012 (Atlantic again)

He also recommends decapitating Democrats: "We need to ride onto that battlefield and chop their heads off in November." (The folks brandishing rifles in the background of the video above add another element of surrealism to the proceeding.)

Obama White House response in 2012 (Atlantic again):

In fact, the White House seems pretty blase about it, calling the kerfuffle "noise." "We can't be policing the statements of supporters across the board," said Press Secretary Jay Carney.

Trump on Nugent in 2012:

 

Nugent on Obama in 2014 (source WaPo, link at bottom):

Two years later, during a hunting and outdoor trade show in Las Vegas in 2014, he called Obama a “communist-raised, communist-educated, communist-nurtured subhuman mongrel” and a “gangster” who weaseled his way into the presidency.

Nugent on Obama and Clinton in 2016 (WaPo again):

In a lengthy Facebook post last year, Nugent said Obama and Clinton should be tried for treason and hanged over their handling of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya.

Trump and Nugent in 2016 (ThinkProgress, link at bottom):

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During Trump’s presidential campaign, Nugent’s well-documented history of racism and violent threats didn’t deter Trump from featuring him in his campaign ads and at his rallies. Nor did it deter Trump from inviting Nugent to the White House and posing for photos with him.

Trump on Hillary Clinton, and political protesters, in 2016 (ThinkProgress):

 

During a rally in August 2016, Trump infamously suggested that “Second Amendment people” — gun owners — might be the last line of defense against Hillary Clinton and the gun-curtailing judges she’d nominate. He also encouraged violence against demonstrators, urging supporters to “knock the crap out of” protesters during a February 2016 rally and promising to pay for the legal fees of anyone who did it.

Kathy Griffin:

Coverage from ThinkProgress: https://thinkprogress.org/trump-kathy-griffin-ted-nugent-spicer-814f0589accd

 

Coverage from reason.com: http://reason.com/blog/2017/05/31/kathy-griffins-latest-stunt-is-not-a-thr

 

Coverage from the Daily Beast: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/30/hey-kathy-griffin-the-left-doesnt-need-its-own-ann-coulter

 

Coverage from WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/31/the-right-is-mad-over-kathy-griffins-gruesome-trump-video-the-left-asks-remember-ted-nugent/

 

Now you're (mostly) caught up! :)

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