HuskerNBigD Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-your-college-football-team-worth-1506000030 Puts us at 14th nationally. 1 Quote Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 you need a subscription to read it. #14 seems low to me. I would have guessed #5-#10. Quote Link to comment
HuskerNBigD Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 36 minutes ago, Kiyoat Husker said: you need a subscription to read it. #14 seems low to me. I would have guessed #5-#10. I know there is some trick where if you copy the first portion of the article into google, itll bring it up for free. But I'll see if I can't export the table. FALL 2017 RANK PROGRAM 1 Ohio State VALUE: 1,510,482,000 2 Texas VALUE: 1,243,124,000 3 Oklahoma VALUE: 1,001,967,000 4 Alabama VALUE: 930,001,000 5 LSU VALUE: 910,927,000 6 Michigan VALUE: 892,951,000 7 Notre Dame VALUE: 856,938,000 8 Georgia VALUE: 822,310,000 9 Tennessee VALUE: 745,640,000 10 Auburn VALUE: 724,191,000 11 Florida VALUE: 682,031,000 12 Penn State VALUE: 549,497,000 13 Texas A & M VALUE: 522,863,000 14 Nebraska VALUE: 507,679,000 15 South Carolina 16 Iowa 17 Arkansas 18 Wisconsin 19 Washington 20 Florida State 21 Oregon 22 Michigan State 23 Mississippi 24 Clemson 25 Southern California 26 Arizona State 27 UCLA 28 Kentucky 29 Oklahoma State 30 Kansas State 31 Virginia Tech 32 Minnesota 33 Miami of Florida 34 Texas Tech 35 Miss State 36 Stanford 37 California Berkely 38 Georgia Tech 39 Utah 40 Colorado 41 Iowa State 42 North Carolina State 43 Kansas 44 Indiana 45 Virginia 46 Northwestern 47 Louisville 48 Texas Christian 49 Maryland 50 North Carolina 51 Arizona 52 Oregon State 53 Illinois 54 Wash State 55 Purdue 56 Missouri 57 Syracuse 58 Pittsburgh 59 Baylor 60 BYU 61 Central Florida 62 Boston College 63 Boise State 64 Vanderbilt 65 Rutgers 66 West Virginia 67 South Florida 68 Duke 69 Connecticut 70 Wake Forest 71 Houston 72 Temple 73 Army 74 Southern Methodist 75 Wyoming 76 Memphis 77 Cincinnati 78 Colorado State 79 Fresno State 80 North Texas 81 East Carolina 82 San Diego State 83 Hawaii 84 Florida International 85 Ohio 86 UNLV 87 Marshall 88 Rice 89 San Jose State 90 Akron 91 UTEP 92 Middle Tennessee 93 Toledo 94 Utah State 95 Nevada 96 Western Michigan 97 Western Kentucky 98 Northern Illinois 99 Buffalo 100 New Mexico 1 Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 #18 most valuable and #43 on coaching salary. That sums it all up right there. 1 Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Should we sell? Who handles these things, Sotheby's? 1 Quote Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, unlfan said: #14 most valuable and #42 on coaching salary. That sums it all up right there. You are making a big assumption that simply by paying a little more we would automatically have gotten an incredible coach. Plenty of top-tier coaches may not come to NU right now regardless of pay-scale. Its not like we are a slam-dunk destination. coaches have to work a little harder here in recruiting than most of the elite schools. Also, plenty of outrageously overpaid coaches never turn out the results you want. (Ferrentz) Unless you think we should be paying Riley a lot more? Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, unlfan said: Yes, I fully admit there are exceptions to every rule. Nothing is 100%, and Wisconsin is an exception that has found a great way to get moderate success (3 conference titles since 2000, huge help from sanctions against other programs, no national titles) from a low ball salary. But go ahead and look at the Top 15 coaching salaries and tell me there is no correlation between salary and success. You can't. I brought this up for a couple of reasons. It seems like all I have read ever since the loss last Saturday is how we need to be more like Wisconsin. Alvarez was interviewed a couple of years ago where he talked about coaching salaries and how he didn't think paying those outrageous wages was necessary. Where does everyone think Wisconsin got it from? Barry Alvarez duplicated what we did. I'm really not sure we want to look at the Top 15. I don't think it will go well because four of them might be in their last season. Sumlin comes in at #6. Do you think he's at A&M next year? Bielema at Arkansas next year? Malzahn at Auburn next year? Brian Kelly at Notre Dame next year? While there's probably not a chance he's not back on Iowa's sideline next year, Ferentz comes in at #10 in salary despite posting a career winning percentage at Iowa of 60%. Would you be happy with winning roughly 7 games year in and year out? Granted, Ferentz does have the occasional double digit single season wins. However, he also occasionally posts three and four win seasons. Dantonio at Michigan State comes in around #12. While I'd also say he's probably safe, he did post a 3-9 record in his 10th season. I've seen Dan Mullen brought up as a Riley replacement. He comes in at #14 on the list. He's on his 9th season where he's posted a 60% winning percentage. Last year, he set a new SEC record as becoming the first coach in SEC history to win a bowl game and still finish with a losing record. After checking the recruiting, he's not exactly a do more with less coach. Most of his past six recruiting classes were top 25, yet Mississippi State has only ended the season ranked in the top 25 once. After looking at the top 15 coaching salaries, I only see maybe five or six slam dunk hires. Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Kiyoat Husker said: #14 seems low to me. I would have guessed #5-#10. Considering our drop-off from the halcyon days of the 1990s and how we've played recently, I think this is rather generous. And frankly, between getting a full B1G payout and this valuation, there's zero substance to any argument about this program not being able to pay multiple buyouts or not being able to afford the best coaches in the land. It kind of puts Eichorst's incompetence into perspective, IMO. Quote Link to comment
junior4949 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I didn't realize we were picking guys who we would take over Riley. I thought the focus was picking guys who would get us to where we want to be. Which Stoops are you referring to? Bob doesn't coach anymore. He's not in the list of top 15 coaching salaries for 2017 because he's retired. I don't know about Mark Dantonio. He's 61 year old. He just came off of a 3-9 record. By far, his greatest achievements were seasons 13'-15'. I see potentially 5 losses this year for him. Riley was 61 when we hired him. At the time, I thought it was a great hire but it now appears he was past his prime. Dantonio might be there as well. I'm not sure I want to take that gamble. I counted your first four in my five or six slam dunks. I'll also give you Franklin. The six I chose but am skeptical because I don't know that he'd necessarily do well here is Jimbo. Quote Link to comment
Kiyoat Husker Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 This talk of coaches brings up an interesting question: can an elite or great coach be elite or great everywhere? are some only great with great players? Are some actually better as rebuilders? Can a coach's recruiting deficiency be hidden in a location that's easy to recruit to? These are all things I have heard on this board. Do you guys(gals) believe they are true? Quote Link to comment
bugeater17 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 How are these universities valued? Is it football team, athletic department or whole university? Does the article explain? I question OU being # 3 - OU owes like a billion dollars - and that is not being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 We have a guy from Virginia and his boss from Mississippi looking for an Athletic Director. They take football very seriously in the South. I wonder if we won't be looking into some SEC guys... Quote Link to comment
C N Red Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 If we ever start winning football games and conference titles again the list could be climbed up a ways. Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, In the Deed the Glory said: We have a guy from Virginia and his boss from Mississippi looking for an Athletic Director. They take football very seriously in the South. I wonder if we won't be looking into some SEC guys... Maybe some ex-SEC guys? Because right now the Big Ten has better overall coaching, Alabama obviously excluded. 1 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 28 minutes ago, knapplc said: Maybe some ex-SEC guys? Because right now the Big Ten has better overall coaching, Alabama obviously excluded. Sorry, I was meaning to fill the opening at Athletic Director. Quote Link to comment
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