teachercd Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 In the end...you can always use more talent. 1 Quote Link to comment
Huskers44 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 So I guess we have some guys like Abdullah, Suh, David, and others on this team. I call BS. We don’t have one player on this team worthy of being drafted inside round 6. How many of our players start at Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama? I’d hope maybe 1. Quote Link to comment
timmytbro Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 It is crazy what happens when you have a lack of talent + a lack of coaching... Quote Link to comment
Swiv3D Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, dvdcrr said: I have never seen this board as a whole, in such a wreck. Every thread, a disaster, every post a speculation. As mere fans of football, the sensible among us must admit, that we know little about how to right this ship. We are amateurs after all. Nor do we know when or if it will be righted. All we know is that we live to fight another day. And though the outcome is in doubt, fight we must! It's the same damn thing post after post Quote Link to comment
Roll Skers Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 But really, we arent even mentioned in bowl projections currently Quote Link to comment
teachercd Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, skers44 said: But really, we arent even mentioned in bowl projections currently So it really is like a typical Riley coached team! 2 Quote Link to comment
InOmaha Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 We have enough talent to turn Arkansas State and Northern Illinois into paste on the field. We struggled with one and lost to the other; both at home. I don't think our talent level is equal to or below Sun Belt and MAC talent levels. If it is, that's still Riley's fault. 2 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Huskers44 said: So I guess we have some guys like Abdullah, Suh, David, and others on this team. I call BS. We don’t have one player on this team worthy of being drafted inside round 6. How many of our players start at Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama? I’d hope maybe 1. What about Wisconsin? 2 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 And, and for the the "where's the Suh on this team" argument? This was Suh in 2007, with bad coaching: This was suh in 2009 with good coaching: I rest my case. 5 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I'm good with guys like: POB, Gebbia Morgan, Lindsey, Spielman, Pierson-El, McQuitty Ozigbo, Bryant, Bradley, Mazour(if he ever sees the field) Jaimes, Farmer, Foster, Gates, Farniok, Raridon, Decker Thomas, Davis, Davis, Neal, Jackson, Stoltenberg (kinda) Roberts, Gifford, Alexander, Stille, Barry, Ferguson & Weber Reed, Bootle, Williams, Dismuke, Domann, Anderson, Jackson, Lee, Jones, Kalu, Williams & Jackson Drew Brown, Lightbourn, Ober Give a good coaching staff that team and they'll beat most teams on our schedule this year. It's not a lack of talent. It's coaching. We need a better system on both sides of the ball and we need a better mentality from both staff & players. 6 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Just now, knapplc said: I'm good with guys like: POB, Gebbia Morgan, Lindsey, Spielman, Pierson-El, McQuitty Ozigbo, Bryant, Bradley, Mazour(if he ever sees the field) Jaimes, Farmer, Foster, Gates, Farniok, Raridon, Decker Thomas, Davis, Davis, Neal, Jackson, Stoltenberg (kinda) Roberts, Gifford, Alexander, Stille, Barry, Ferguson & Weber Reed, Bootle, Williams, Dismuke, Domann, Anderson, Jackson, Lee, Jones, Kalu, Williams & Jackson Drew Brown, Lightbourn, Ober Give a good coaching staff that team and they'll beat most teams on our schedule this year. It's not a lack of talent. It's coaching. We need a better system on both sides of the ball and we need a better mentality from both staff & players. Bingo. Everybody wants more talent. Hell, even Bama has had holes that they needed to fill with transfers and Juco's. 1 Quote Link to comment
knapplc Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Yep. No such thing as too much talent, you can always add more. But we have enough talent to be a good team. This excuse just doesn't hold water. 5 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I have said for a long time that Nebraska has enough talent on this team to dominate smaller programs and be competitive with the best programs. The mentality of the team is not right. Ultimately, that needs to be instilled in younger players from older players. This is exactly what players from the 90s have been talking about for a long time. Now, the problem is, the older players don't have that mentality either.....so.....it needs to be instilled in them from the staff. And...they are failing at doing that. I'm still haunted by a quote from one of our players last week, prior to the Wisconsin game. Paraphrasing, they said, "Now is the time to step up our game because we are playing Wisconsin this week". My reaction was....WTF???? You should have stepped up your game about June 1st preparing for this season and had a take no prisoners mentality in the first 5 games. If you had, we wouldn't have been sitting here with two losses and barely beating teams like Arkansas State. Lots of fans get tired of hearing people like Jason Peter talk about their whole attitude towards practice and games back in the 90s. BUT....that's exactly what has been missing for a very long time. 6 Quote Link to comment
NoLongerN Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I really enjoyed reading this whole thread today. Good stuff and perspective. Whether you believe it's coaching or recruiting ... is the guy laying on the ground on his back. :-( Quote Link to comment
Isle of View Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 9 hours ago, southernoregonhusker said: Anybody with eyes can see we lack talent. No, this is a total myth. One of the more highly propagated myths. The eye test doesn't give you much of an idea about talent. What the eye test gives you is a view into how a player is coached. Watch UCF. 24/7 Talent composite around #60 in the nation and they look extremely talented, because they're well coached. Meanwhile, the Huskers have around a #26 talent composite and they look like a bunch of disinterested couch potatoes because they're poorly coached and poorly motivated. When you see a good team (meaning well-coached) they all look talented. When you see a bad team, rarely do any of them look talented. 3 Quote Link to comment
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