theknife Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 57 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said: Don't think so at all... Gebbia ran 77 times for 293 yards and 10 touchdowns his senior year, so he has some mobility. POB ran for 626 yards on 110 carries, with eight rushing touchdowns his senior year. Neither of them are game breakers at the position, but probably have enough to get it done. 5 Quote Link to comment
Huskers44 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, BigRedBuster said: Yeah...I wouldn't consider Gebbia the second string just yet. Didn’t count him out. I think I’ve been as high on Gebbia as anyone has. I think he’s our starting QB next year. Quote Link to comment
Popular Post BigRedBuster Posted December 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said: You need a running QB in this offense to be an actual home run threat... Someone who can take it to the house each time. No you don't. 11 Quote Link to comment
FrankWheeler Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said: He is a pocket passing QB who is slightly athletic running the ball. He has zero experience in an offense like Frost's. He also is a twig and will most likely snap in half should he get drilled while running. You need a running QB in this offense to be an actual home run threat... Someone who can take it to the house each time. If not, no respect will be given and the defense can count on the QB not being a threat. Maybe not the best place for this conversation but Milton had 3 runs of 20+ yards all season. Can we get a definition on who someone who can take it to the house each time is? 7 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Mavric Posted December 11, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said: You need a running QB in this offense to be an actual home run threat... Someone who can take it to the house each time. If not, no respect will be given and the defense can count on the QB not being a threat. Milton had one rush this year longer than 25 yards. He went 12-0, won the conference and finished 8th in the Heisman voting in directing the #1 offense in the country. I think you are completely making this up. 17 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 UCF QBs (Milton and Vedra) passed the ball 389 times (29.9 times per game) compared to running it 111 times (9.25 times per game). The QB being able to be an accurate and efficient passer is still way more important than being able to (take it to the house). We need an accurate passer and one that can also pick up those 5-10 yards in space when it opens up or is the right read on a QB run. That doesn't take a Taylor Martinez, Eric Crouch type of runner. 7 Quote Link to comment
Huskers44 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: UCF QBs (Milton and Vedra) passed the ball 389 times (29.9 times per game) compared to running it 111 times (9.25 times per game). The QB being able to be an accurate and efficient passer is still way more important than being able to (take it to the house). We need an accurate passer and one that can also pick up those 5-10 yards in space when it opens up or is the right read on a QB run. That doesn't take a Taylor Martinez, Eric Crouch type of runner. Agreed. I mean ideally we find a QB like Mariota or Watson who can kill you on their feet, but also pass very efficiently. But, if you can pass and get the run when it’s there that’s all you need. Quote Link to comment
husker98 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said: UCF QBs (Milton and Vedra) passed the ball 389 times (29.9 times per game) compared to running it 111 times (9.25 times per game). The QB being able to be an accurate and efficient passer is still way more important than being able to (take it to the house). We need an accurate passer and one that can also pick up those 5-10 yards in space when it opens up or is the right read on a QB run. That doesn't take a Taylor Martinez, Eric Crouch type of runner. Precisely this, with Milton at QB on the read option they were asking him to punish the defense for getting too aggressive on chasing their RB's. Milton did a great job of that getting chunks of yardage, and sometimes a first down, and occasionally but rarely more then that. Gebbia has the tools to replicate a some of what Milton did this year, probably not as many explosive plays. POB is another intriguing option, he was a more physical runner if I remember his HS tape and looked ok running it against Minnesota. Quote Link to comment
Huskers93-97 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Im in the camp of thinking Gebbia is a stud. Talented, great work ethic, great attitude. I think he is mobile enough like milton to be serviceable. I think a guy like adrian martinez is the perfect specimen (Marcus Mariotta clone is the perfect fit for this offense). But it doesnt mean a guy like Gebbia cant do great things until we get that guy, or wait a year till martinez redshirts and is ready to play. Quote Link to comment
Chadhusker Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think if frost gets martinez he will be the starter . Frost ain't scared to play true freshman. Quote Link to comment
SouthLincoln Husker Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 58 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said: He is a pocket passing QB who is slightly athletic running the ball. He has zero experience in an offense like Frost's. He also is a twig and will most likely snap in half should he get drilled while running. You need a running QB in this offense to be an actual home run threat... Someone who can take it to the house each time. If not, no respect will be given and the defense can count on the QB not being a threat. That why he ran 600+ yards and 10 running TDs as a Sr. in HS. Yes, he is a pass first QB but he can run. 1 Quote Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said: Excellent counter point? Nice proof. You might want to read farther down. 4 Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said: He is a pocket passing QB who is slightly athletic running the ball. He has zero experience in an offense like Frost's. He also is a twig and will most likely snap in half should he get drilled while running. You need a running QB in this offense to be an actual home run threat... Someone who can take it to the house each time. If not, no respect will be given and the defense can count on the QB not being a threat. McKenzie Milton rushed 93 times for 497 yards and 7 TD's this season. I see this as very similar to Gebbia and POB. Gebbia is listed as 6-3, 185lbs Milton is listed at 5-11, 177lbs 3 Quote Link to comment
BIG ERN Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 When was the last time we started a true freshman at QB game 1? Not sure if we ever have that I'm aware of. Tommie Frazier did in 92', but he didn't start the first 3 games. Eric Crouch did in 98' but he didn't initially start either. T Martinez was a RS Freshman when he started. Tommy Armstrong and Cody Green didn't start game 1 either, but started some games as well. Quote Link to comment
StPaulHusker Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, BlitzFirst said: Got it...4 inches shorter and within 10lbs. Would you rather have a 5'11" 200 lb running back... Or a 6'3 208lb one? Which one of those would be better running in the big ten? Funny how you overlooked the stats that didn't fit your narrative. And how ignorant is it to assume Gebbia won't put on any weight? 3 Quote Link to comment
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