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HIHusker    81

I think we can all agree that we don't know exactly what type of offense SF will put on the field but we can make an educated guess as to what it will look like based on his past body of work at UCF/Oregon.  That being said, I'm curious what you guys think of Tre Bryant recovering and how he fits in to SF's scheme?  I was impressed by the kid this year and I havn't heard much about him since the injury. 

 

 

Nice hands on this TD grab:

 

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Redux    5,750

From the sound of things, he will never be the same.  Not because of injury but because it is a lingering thing that will always be an issue.  Very unfortunate if truly the case.  Our highest ceiling back on the roster IMO.

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HIHusker    81
2 minutes ago, Redux said:

From the sound of things, he will never be the same.  Not because of injury but because it is a lingering thing that will always be an issue.  Very unfortunate if truly the case.  Our highest ceiling back on the roster IMO.

Real bummer, after going back and watching some highlights the past 2 years he would have fit nicely in SF's scheme.  Hope he recovers, if not wish him the best.

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Redux    5,750

I feel incredibly comfortable that Frost is going to bring in an immediate plug in play RB and a JUCO QB.  This offense is about tp rebound....would be hard not to as low as it got.

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HIHusker    81
1 minute ago, Redux said:

I feel incredibly comfortable that Frost is going to bring in an immediate plug in play RB and a JUCO QB.  This offense is about tp rebound....would be hard not to as low as it got.

Out of current backs who has the best hands?  Wilbon?

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Redux    5,750
1 minute ago, HIHusker said:

Out of current backs who has the best hands?  Wilbon?

 

Idk, I'm an Ozigbo fan but Wilbon is faster.  Hands wise equal maybe.

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ColoradoHusk    4,260
4 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

Idk, I'm an Ozigbo fan but Wilbon is faster.  Hands wise equal maybe.

I like Bradley in Frost’s offense. He played in a similar system in high school and was great. Bradley just needs to get bigger to be able to be a more physical runner at the college level.

 

Ozigbo will have his moments, but he is a situational back where he will be used depending on the opponent. 

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Redux    5,750

Bradley became an afterthought for literally no good reason.  I wish we had more data to go off of from him, maybe he flourishes.

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ColoradoHusk    4,260
1 minute ago, Redux said:

Bradley became an afterthought for literally no good reason.  I wish we had more data to go off of from him, maybe he flourishes.

Mike Huffman, Bradley’s HS coach, had some good comments about Bradley when he broke down Frost’s offense for the OWH. He said Bradley has a good frame, but he was still too slender to play regularly last year. He wasn’t able to break many tackles, and Bradley injured his ankle when he had some extensive work against Purdue. It would have been great for him to get more work this past season, but the coaches couldn’t find the best way to do that (shocker, I know). 

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runningblind    272
4 minutes ago, Redux said:

Bradley became an afterthought for literally no good reason.  I wish we had more data to go off of from him, maybe he flourishes.

I think Bradley is exactly what Frost wants in this offense. Ozigbo and Wilbon don't really fit.

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Redux    5,750

Not including our O Line play, Running Back has been the biggest regression in recent memory.  I respect Riley and all that, but he made the position a novelty act and in the most bland way possible.

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ColoradoHusk    4,260
3 minutes ago, Redux said:

Not including our O Line play, Running Back has been the biggest regression in recent memory.  I respect Riley and all that, but he made the position a novelty act and in the most bland way possible.

Well when they selected which RB plays based on pass blocking and not actual running ability, there’s the flaw. 

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BoNeyard    1,142

We actually have some decent options at RB, we just don't have an O-Line to let them showcase their abilities.

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Redux    5,750
1 minute ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

JUCO QB Wilson

JUCO RB Bell 

 

If they both commit that is your starters next year 

 

If he says....

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ColoradoHusk    4,260
2 minutes ago, BoNeyard said:

We actually have some decent options at RB, we just don't have an O-Line to let them showcase their abilities.

The o-line has been bad, but I don’t think the RBs are all that special. 

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BoNeyard    1,142
Just now, ColoradoHusk said:

The o-line has been bad, but I don’t think the RBs are all that special. 

None of them are break defenders ankles great, but they aren't nearly as bad as they look. First off none of them really ever got into rhythm, one game one RB would start and get a load of carries, the next game it would be someone else and you wouldn't see the previous RB for weeks. Couple that with terrible O-Line play and the RB situation was a mess, but the talent in there.

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chamrocck    310

Tre Bryant and JD Spielman were my favorite newcomers.  Could tell they would be good early on in the season.  I hope Tre makes it back.  Even if his capacity is limited would like to see him get to contribute.  

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Chadhusker    8

I think Bradley will be the starter When season starts. I wish he was red shirted.But I think he fits the offense and I think he will tear it up if he's the starter Next year . 

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Hunter94    512
9 hours ago, chamrocck said:

Tre Bryant and JD Spielman were my favorite newcomers.  Could tell they would be good early on in the season.  I hope Tre makes it back.  Even if his capacity is limited would like to see him get to contribute.  

Tre, to some degree,   equals Adam Taylor, i fear.

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Crazyhole    53

Tre was a strong runner for having the knee issues.    My biggest concern about him running in frosts offense isn't his knee though, it's his hips.   Maybe it was an effect of the knee problem, but I've never seen a running back who has such a lag between his hip movement and his feet when he cuts.  Against faster defenses he is going to have a hard time changing directions if that issue doesn't improve. Better backs use their shoulders and upper body to initially change their momentum.  Defenders are taught to read a runners hips.  

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BlitzFirst    1,032

I think all we have to go off of is a single coment from Riley about Tre's 'lingering knee issue'.

 

 

I don't think we can count that as law.  And I don't think we know how devastating or chronic his knee issue is.

 

 

I think until we hear it from Frost or Bryant himself...we should probably not believe what Riley said.  He could have meant 'lingering this year' and not 'lingering all the time'.

 

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Warrior    81
11 hours ago, chamrocck said:

Tre Bryant and JD Spielman were my favorite newcomers.  Could tell they would be good early on in the season.  I hope Tre makes it back.  Even if his capacity is limited would like to see him get to contribute.  

Spielman and Morgan in this system will be fun to watch if Stanley stays.

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RedSavage    501
58 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

I think all we have to go off of is a single coment from Riley about Tre's 'lingering knee issue'.

 

 

I don't think we can count that as law.  And I don't think we know how devastating or chronic his knee issue is.

 

 

I think until we hear it from Frost or Bryant himself...we should probably not believe what Riley said.  He could have meant 'lingering this year' and not 'lingering all the time'.

 

Sounds like the issue goes back to his HS days, so I would consider that 'lingering all the time'

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BigRedBuster    8,064

Watching clips and analysis of Frost's offense, I don't see what Wilbon and Bradley couldn't excel at.  I think both of these players could be very effective in what is asked of them.

 

Bryant would be very good.  But, I'm afraid we have seen the last of him.

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BlitzFirst    1,032
25 minutes ago, RedSavage said:

Sounds like the issue goes back to his HS days, so I would consider that 'lingering all the time'

Please give us a link with proof it goes back there and I'll be right there with ya. 

 

 

Proof or it's just a narrative

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ScottyIce    1,928
13 hours ago, Redux said:

 

Idk, I'm an Ozigbo fan but Wilbon is faster.  Hands wise equal maybe.

 

Who is better at catching passes off their facemask though?

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ColoradoHusk    4,260
9 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

Please give us a link with proof it goes back there and I'll be right there with ya. 

 

 

Proof or it's just a narrative

Here is an article after a press conference after the Oregon game.

 

https://www.cornnation.com/2017/9/11/16289138/mike-riley-post-oregon-news-conference-tre-bryant-has-old-knees

 

Riley's comments are that Bryant's bad knee is older than his age, and something that he's had since he arrived at NU.  You may not believe Riley, but it sounds like an issue that's been on-going for a couple years.  Bryant was limited in preseason camp, and sounds like his knee swells up after extensive activity.  They are hoping the surgery done in October is able to relieve the knee pain issue.

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BlitzFirst    1,032
5 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Here is an article after a press conference after the Oregon game.

 

https://www.cornnation.com/2017/9/11/16289138/mike-riley-post-oregon-news-conference-tre-bryant-has-old-knees

 

Riley's comments are that Bryant's bad knee is older than his age, and something that he's had since he arrived at NU.  You may not believe Riley, but it sounds like an issue that's been on-going for a couple years.  They are hoping the surgery done in October is able to relieve the knee pain issue.

 

Yeah, still don't buy that it is chronic... High school injuries don't get resolved often at the high school level.

 

Example...I had a bum knee entering into college ball.  Once I arrived and reaggravated it, the trainers sent me to a specialist who examined, diagnosed, and fixed my issue.  I was then fine the rest of my college career.  Why didn't I get it fixed earlier?  I was poor and couldn't afford it.

 

Just because you arrive with a niggling injury, does not mean it's all over for you.

 

As I said, all of this is all conjecture based on one sentence from Mike Riley.

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ColoradoHusk    4,260
Just now, BlitzFirst said:

 

Yeah, still don't but that it is chronic... High school inures don't get resolved often.

 

Example...I had a bum knee entering into college ball.  Once I arrived and reaggravated it, the trainers sent me to a specialist who examined, diagnosed, and fixed my issue.  I was then fine the rest of my college career.

 

Just because you arrive with a niggling injury, does not mean it's all over for you.

 

As I said, all of this is connectors based on one sentence from Mike Riley.

It really just sounds like you don't want to believe what people have said about Bryant.  You asked for a link, and I sent you what people have said about Bryant's knee.  I understand that you have personal experience, and Bryant could be in a similar situation, but I don't think it's reasonable to say "Bryant will be 100% fine after his surgery."

 

 

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Cdog923    1,255
5 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Here is an article after a press conference after the Oregon game.

 

https://www.cornnation.com/2017/9/11/16289138/mike-riley-post-oregon-news-conference-tre-bryant-has-old-knees

 

Riley's comments are that Bryant's bad knee is older than his age, and something that he's had since he arrived at NU.  You may not believe Riley, but it sounds like an issue that's been on-going for a couple years.  Bryant was limited in preseason camp, and sounds like his knee swells up after extensive activity.  They are hoping the surgery done in October is able to relieve the knee pain issue.

 

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BlitzFirst    1,032
2 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

It really just sounds like you don't want to believe what people have said about Bryant.  You asked for a link, and I sent you what people have said about Bryant's knee.  I understand that you have personal experience, and Bryant could be in a similar situation, but I don't think it's reasonable to say "Bryant will be 100% fine after his surgery."

 

 

 

Now it's people? Not just Riley?  Also, you said "sounds like it is an issue going on longer"... So once again, we don't know.  Conjecture.

 

Ok, good to know that Riley is more than one person

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ColoradoHusk    4,260
Just now, BlitzFirst said:

 

Now it's people? Not just Riley?

 

Ok, good to know that Riley is more than one person

You don't think Riley is relaying information from what his training staff are saying?  You are nit picking about comments in here, and it sounds like you aren't going to be happy with anyone's comments except ones that agree with you.

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BlitzFirst    1,032
3 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

You don't think Riley is relaying information from what his training staff are saying?  You are nit picking about comments in here, and it sounds like you aren't going to be happy with anyone's comments except ones that agree with you.

 

 

I'm not nitpicking... I'm simply refusing to create a narrative based on one comment.  I'm not inferring things without proof.

 

Nitpicking is what you're doing.. Looking for small things (like a single comment from our previous head coach) in order to be critical of Bryants future on the team.

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Enhance    3,497

The concern with Wilbon is he's not a game changing playmaker, in my opinion. He's been here several years now and he's yet to really excel in the rushing game.

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BIGREDIOWAN    2,128
10 minutes ago, Enhance said:

The concern with Wilbon is he's not a game changing playmaker, in my opinion. He's been here several years now and he's yet to really excel in the rushing game.

Well that may not necessarily be his fault. Obviously we've had some major coaching issues over the years and that could possibly be something that hindered him. No excuses for him now though. 

 

I've heard that Bryant's knees are terrible and are knees of a 60 year old or something along those lines. Great player, hopefully we see him come back healthy after that surgery, but I seriously doubt it. 

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Cdog923    1,255
2 minutes ago, BIGREDIOWAN said:

Well that may not necessarily be his fault. Obviously we've had some major coaching issues over the years and that could possibly be something that hindered him. No excuses for him now though. 

 

I've heard that Bryant's knees are terrible and are knees of a 60 year old or something along those lines. Great player, hopefully we see him come back healthy after that surgery, but I seriously doubt it. 

 

Sadly, if that's the case, Bryant may have to go on the Adam Taylor Scholarship plan. 

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4skers89    601
8 minutes ago, Enhance said:

The concern with Wilbon is he's not a game changing playmaker, in my opinion. He's been here several years now and he's yet to really excel in the rushing game.

I think he has been demoralized by the offense he's been in. I had a lot of hope for Wilbon until this year. His refusal to block makes it obvious that he is soft and will never be a good back.

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Caliborn72    137

I think and hope that it’s entirely possible that Bryant will be back. I’m looking forward to it.

 

I also think it’s imperative that the staff treat his return as an uncertainty, and that they look to bring in a prep RB and a juco RB. After ‘18, we lose Ozigbo and Wilbon, and while I love Bradley’s potential, if Bryant isn’t able to get back on the field, then that RB position is bleak even with a beast prep RB in this class. If the staff pursues and accepts a commitment from a juco RB, then I think it will say a lot about Bryant’s status going forward. Would love to have him back, but I’d also understand if medically retiring from football might be the best thing for him.

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