Passing offense under Frost

[beorach]

13 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

 

Agreed with TA being a game changer. I also don't know how you call Taylor Martinez anything but that.  Unless the argument was that he was a while ago. 

 

That's fair, too.  I remember the Texas fans calling him Mexi-Jesus for a time.  It's tough trying to live up to messianic (sp?) expectations.

[Undone]

I want to just say that I love your screen name, @PasstheDamnBallGuy. Well done.

[PasstheDamnBallGuy]

5 minutes ago, Undone said:

I want to just say that I love your screen name, @PasstheDamnBallGuy. Well done.

 

Haha thanks!! I thought it was appropriate with the new staff. 

 

[1994 Husker]

..until a Husker staff, and I’m persuaded Mr Frost will,  decides it’s ALL important to shift all available assets and time to a offensive lineman production, QB play speculation is meaningless.. when was last time the Huskers had consistently put ANY linemen (offense/defense) in the NFL with regularity..? ..about the same time they were winning a bunch of games..most folks here at not old enough to perhaps even see 1 lineman other than SUH go in the NFL..

[ColoradoHusk]

2 minutes ago, Depressed Husker said:

..until a Husker staff, and I’m persuaded Mr Frost will,  decides it’s ALL important to shift all available assets and time to a offensive lineman production, QB play speculation is meaningless.. when was last time the Huskers had consistently put ANY linemen (offense/defense) in the NFL with regularity..? ..about the same time they were winning a bunch of games..most folks here at not old enough to perhaps even see 1 lineman other than SUH go in the NFL..

Callahan recruited a number of o-linemen that went on to play in the NFL, Matt Slauson and Lydon Murtha are 2 that come to me off the top of my head.

[Cdog923]

16 hours ago, HerbieHancock said:

Haven't had a game changer at QB for a long time..... giddy up 

 

Taylor Martinez wasn't a "game changer"?

 

After watching Lee behind this offensive line, Tommy Armstrong wasn't a "game changer"?

[teachercd]

Lee was a game changer...but he changed the game in bad ways for the Skers.

[brophog]

5 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

This has been a big frustration of mine this year.  I would have thought we would have had way more wide open WRs.  We have told talent at the position.  We had a good coach teaching rout running.  We had two coaches who supposedly were good at designing a passing attack.

But, we ended up with WRs having to constantly catch balls with tight coverage or in traffic.

 

It always puzzled me.

 

Two words: Max protect.

[ScawFraw]

I think he could be a game changer in the sense of possibly winning big games against Wisconsin and Ohio State.  Hopefully..

[BaytownHusker]

4 hours ago, Mavric said:

Frost makes A LOT of use of numbers games.  Maybe almost exclusively.  Will almost always have at least three wide receivers, maybe more.  If you only leave six guys in the box, it'll often be a run play either because they know how you're lining up to defend them or via an RPO.  If you put seven guys in the box, they'll throw.  And so on.

 

Try to find the best matchup based on what the defense is doing and get the ball to someone with space to work.  Put your guys in a position to succeed.  What a concept.

 

True but he will be facing better defenses than he seen at UCF.  I think our offense explodes in year 2 under Frost. 

[Mavric]

2 hours ago, Depressed Husker said:

..until a Husker staff, and I’m persuaded Mr Frost will,  decides it’s ALL important to shift all available assets and time to a offensive lineman production, QB play speculation is meaningless.. when was last time the Huskers had consistently put ANY linemen (offense/defense) in the NFL with regularity..? ..about the same time they were winning a bunch of games..most folks here at not old enough to perhaps even see 1 lineman other than SUH go in the NFL..

 

Cue the semantic argument but ...... now?

 

On the offensive side, Richie Incognito, Alex Lewis, Spencer Long, Brent Qvale, Jeremiah Sirles, Matt Slauson and Zach Sterup are all on rosters and Givens Price is on the Redskins' practice squad.

 

On defense, Maliek Collins, Jared Crick,  Suh and Vincent Valentine plus Randy Gregory if you want to count him.

[HerbieHancock]

9 hours ago, beorach said:

Tommie Armstrong

 

The kind of QB you're talking about is rare anywhere.  If it was so easy, Alabama would have a stockpile. 

 

I mostly wanted to respond because Tommy Armstrong earned more respect than that, though.  He did a lot, relative to what he could do with the hand he was dealt at NU, as evidenced by the excerpt below from Huskers.com.  I feel like TA could have been a Heisman contender in a better program.  As it was, the first two MR seasons could have been a lot worse.  I've seen it argued that TA was the wild card that made Riley's offense viable during that stretch (because other coaches had already figured it out).

 

Honors & Awards
» Honorable-Mention All-Big Ten (Media, Coaches, 2016)
» 2016 Tom Novak Trophy
» Team Captain (2015)
» Big Ten Offensive Player of the Week (vs. Southern Miss, vs. Michigan State, 2015, at Northwestern, 2016, vs. Minnesota, 2016)
» Foster Farms Bowl Offensive MVP (2015 vs. UCLA)
» Rose Bowl Big Ten Player of the Week (Fresno State, 2016)
» Davey O'Brien Award Watch List (2016)
» Maxwell Award Watch List (2015, 2016)
» Earl Campbell Tyler Rose Award Watch List (2015, 2016)
» Honorable-Mention Big Ten All-Freshman Team (BTN, 2013)
» Big Ten Freshman of the Week (vs. Michigan, 2013)
» Longest Pass in Nebraska History and NCAA Bowl History (99 yards vs. Georgia)
» Nebraska Career Record Holder--Passing Yards, Passing Completions, Passing Touchdowns,
Total Offense, Total TDs Responsible for, Career Starts by a Quarterback, 250-Yard Passing Games, 300-Yard Passing Games, 300-Yard Total Offense Games
» Nebraska Junior Record for Passing Yards in a Season
» Nebraska Sophomore Record Holder - Passing Yards, Passing TDs, Total Offense
» Nebraska Bowl Game Record Holder - Passing Yards, Passing TDs, Pass Completions,
    Pass Attempts, Total Offense (2014 Holiday Bowl vs. USC)
» Nebraska Scholar-Athlete Honor Roll (Fall, 2012)
» Brook Berringer Citizenship Team (2016)
» Tom Osborne Citizenship Team (2016)

Armstrong's Nebraska Rankings
» Career Passing Yards, 1st (8,871 yards)
» Career Pass Completions, 1st (625 completions)
» Career Touchdown Passes, 1st (67 touchdowns)
» Career Total Offense, 1st (10,690 yards)
» Career Total Touchdowns, 1st (91 touchdowns)
» Career 250-Yard Passing Games, 1st (14 games)
» Career 300-Yard Total Offense Games, 1st (11 games)
» Career Starts by a Quarterback, 1st (44 starts)
» Season Passing Yards, 3rd/5th (3,030 yards in 2015, 2,695 yards in 2014)
» Season Passing Touchdowns, 4th (22 TDs in both 2014 and 2015)
» Season Passing Completions, 5th (222 completions, 2015)
» Season Total Offense, 3rd/4th (3,430 yards in 2015, 3,400 yards in 2014)
» Season 300-Yard Passing Games, 2nd (4, 2015)
» Season 250-Yard Passing Games, 1st-tied (8, 2015)
» Season 300-Yard Total Offense Games, 1st-tied (6, 2015)
 

I’d take lord, crouch, frost, fraizer, MickeyJo, and Steve Taylor over any qb we’ve had in close to two decades.

 

Tommy was NUs game changer at that time because they built that offense tailored to only his strengths. Obviously if he had a bad game, we’d lose. He won games that without he we may not have, tough as nails, and earns respect for how he played the game. But I’d slow down on the heisman talk. If any of the qbs mentioned above got as many attempts... don’t think their numbers would be close. 

 

Also, you can’t tell me you’d take a handful of qbs the big 10 has had over tommy and Martinez during their playing time. Tommy was better than Taylor but let’s slow down with heisman talk here. 

 

Edited December 15, 2017 by HerbieHancock

[HerbieHancock]

8 hours ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

 

Agreed with TA being a game changer. I also don't know how you call Taylor Martinez anything but that.  Unless the argument was that he was a while ago. 

 

5 hours ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Taylor Martinez wasn't a "game changer"?

 

After watching Lee behind this offensive line, Tommy Armstrong wasn't a "game changer"?

 

Negative 

[PasstheDamnBallGuy]

37 minutes ago, HerbieHancock said:

 

 

Negative 

 

 

Seriously dude

[HerbieHancock]

14 minutes ago, PasstheDamnBallGuy said:

 

 

Seriously dude

Remember that score ?

 

better yet, what was his stat line ?

Edited December 15, 2017 by HerbieHancock