MichiganDad3 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Who would you rather have as your head coach right now? I would take Frost. Harbaugh isn't producing elite results at Michigan, and Urban never seems to last very long at one school. I think Frost will out perform both of them. Edited January 7, 2018 by MichiganDad3 2 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post runningblind Posted January 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MichiganDad3 said: Who would you rather have as your head coach right now? I would take Frost. Harbaugh isn't producing elite results at Michigan, and Urban never seems to last very long at one school. I think Frost will out perform both of them. Depends on if you mean at Nebraska or at any school. Nebraska = Frost. Perfect fit at the greatest time of need. Any other school = Meyer. Track record and instant credibility. Hard knocks = Harbaugh. Edited January 7, 2018 by runningblind 10 Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, runningblind said: Depends on if you mean at Nebraska or at any school. Nebraska = Frost. Perfect fit at the greatest time of need. Any other school = Meyer. Track record and instant credibility. Hard knocks = Harbaugh. For Nebraska of course Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Was telling my buddy last night, I expect Urban to be getting "tired" again soon. And Jim will find his way back to the league sooner than later. Honestly the two premieres in the Big Ten could be Frost/NU and Franklin/PSU. If I had to predict the landscape in a few years... Washington UCLA Nebraska Penn State Oklahoma TCU Clemson Va Tech Georgia Texas A&M Alabama (if Saban is still there) 4 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I've never understood the over-infatuation with Harbaugh. I think he's a very good coach but some people love the guy. He hit a very high mark with Stanford, left the 49ers after failing to make the playoffs for the first time as coach there and has yet to beat OSU or even win the division. He also can't find a really good quarterback despite several years of top ranked classes. It's just interesting. I think @runningblind is spot on in his analysis, though. +1 Quote Link to comment
skersfan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) I think Harbaugh is gone after next year. He has failed miserably in winning the games he was hired to win. Big fan of Coach Frost, but would take Meyer in a heart beat. He knows all the ins and outs of the business, how to recruit big time prospects. He would never come to Nebraska, his decisions are all about talent availability. I think we may have a young Meyer with Coach Frost, the question for me is will we give him time to fix this giant mess? I have read on this site, that some expect to win the CCG in the next two years. It might happen, but expecting it is just looking for problems, as some will start complaining if it doesn't happen fast enough and the squeaky wheel is the loudest. The biggest difference for me is that Coach Frost wants to be at Nebraska. This isn't a stepping stone for him. Edited January 8, 2018 by skersfan 4 Quote Link to comment
Enhance Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, skersfan said: I think we may have a young Meyer with Coach Frost, the question for me is will we give him time to fix this giant mess? I have read on this site, that some expect to win the CCG in the next two years. It might happen, but expecting it is just looking for problems, as some will start complaining if it doesn't happen fast enough and the squeaky wheel is the loudest. Some people are being ridiculous, I agree. Frost proved a lot to himself and the world with his work at UCF but there's no guarantee of those results translating anywhere. So many factors are always at play. Now, I need to be careful how I say this next part. My level of patience is quite high in terms of quantifiable results. I'm not going to get too high or low with anything that happens in the next 3-4 years. We've got 20 years of cultural issues to overcome and it often takes time. There are (of course) caveats to that. If he's winning four games in year four then something may need to be evaluated, even though I'm very confident that's not going to be an issue. After year 4-5, that's when I'm going to really start evaluating where everything is at. 3 Quote Link to comment
Crazyhole Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 From an objective standpoint I don't see any coach being on the level of Meyer outside of saban at this moment. That being said, there are a few coaches who can reach his level of success in the next 5 years and frost is definitely one of them. Harbaugh is what he is and has shown signs of being a good college football coach but as of now, frost is the more impressive of the 2. Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, skersfan said: I think Harbaugh is gone after next year. He has failed miserably in winning the games he was hired to win. Big fan of Coach Frost, but would take Meyer in a heart beat. He knows all the ins and outs of the business, how to recruit big time prospects. He would never come to Nebraska, his decisions are all about talent availability. I think we may have a young Meyer with Coach Frost, the question for me is will we give him time to fix this giant mess? I have read on this site, that some expect to win the CCG in the next two years. It might happen, but expecting it is just looking for problems, as some will start complaining if it doesn't happen fast enough and the squeaky wheel is the loudest. The biggest different for me is that Coach Frost wants to be at Nebraska. This isn't a stepping stone for him. Frost will get all 7 years of his contract. Moos already said if we stub our toe he will let Frost right the ship. Quote Link to comment
gorp512 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Redux said: If I had to predict the landscape in a few years... Washington UCLA Nebraska Penn State Oklahoma TCU Clemson Va Tech Georgia Texas A&M Alabama (if Saban is still there) Add Texas and Miami Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Maybe it's silly, but I wouldn't pick Meyer over Frost. He wouldn't stay with us very long, and he hasn't coached in a place hard to recruit to in a long, long time. His name would bring in a lot of good recruits but not as many as he gets at Ohio State. 1 Quote Link to comment
MichiganDad3 Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Maybe it's silly, but I wouldn't pick Meyer over Frost. He wouldn't stay with us very long, and he hasn't coached in a place hard to recruit to in a long, long time. His name would bring in a lot of good recruits but not as many as he gets at Ohio State. That's the same reason I prefer Frost over Urban. I am hoping Frost stays at Nebraska for 30 years, along with most of his staff. Quote Link to comment
JJ Husker Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Moiraine said: Maybe it's silly, but I wouldn't pick Meyer over Frost. He wouldn't stay with us very long, and he hasn't coached in a place hard to recruit to in a long, long time. His name would bring in a lot of good recruits but not as many as he gets at Ohio State. It's not silly at all. I wouldn't pick any coach over Frost at this moment. Saban and Meyer are definitely good coaches but they need that elite talent to be as good as they are. I honestly believe Frost can and will get more out of lesser rated players. It may be the last hurrah ultimatum in me but I really think Frost is poised to do some amazing things at Nebraska. I think we'll begin to see it this coming season but hold on once he has the cultural issues fixed in this program. I wouldn't trade him for Meyer or Saban or anyone. And imo, Harbaugh doesn't even belong in the discussion. 3 Quote Link to comment
melscott62 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Anyone that doesnt say Meyer is crazy. You take the proven choice. If people are being honest.....i can't see Frost's absolute ceiling being much higher than what Meyer is. 2 Quote Link to comment
In the Deed the Glory Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, MichiganDad3 said: That's the same reason I prefer Frost over Urban. I am hoping Frost stays at Nebraska for 30 years, along with most of his staff. I think he would be 72 at that point. I doubt he coaches until he is 72 Quote Link to comment
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