ScottyIce Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, HS_Coach_C said: I don't think anyone knows what the committee was worried about, unless you're on it? If we had beaten Illinois, we could at least say we didn't have any bad losses. It’s not over until Sunday at about 5:20. Holding out hope until then. Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Mavric said: What’s sad is now we aren’t a #1 seed in the NIT... lol, such a broke system. Quote Link to comment
seaofred92 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mavric said: http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html ranked 41st out of the "newbies" last 2 years Edited March 6, 2018 by seaofred92 1 Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, Minnesota_husker said: My other argument for Nebraska vs the teams above is look at how the teams finished. Would you rather have a team that finished the year fairly hot or a team that lost 6 of last 10. I know we arent going dancing. But I am sick of this "Q1" argument crap. The eye test tells me Nebraska is worthy and guys like Lunardi and Mandel havent watched much if any of Nebrasketball and are basing it 100% on numbers. I do think the committee used to give some weight to how teams did in their last 10 games. I'm not sure if they still do - I haven't heard any talk about that this year. I think the issue most Nebraska fans have is they are putting a lot of weight on the more recent games and minimizing the earlier games. And I think that's a valid point. I just don't know if that's how the committee looks at it. If they're mainly considering the "body of work" as a whole, I don't think a lot of the arguments people are putting up for Nebraska mean as much. Not that we played terrible early in the year but we definitely weren't playing as well which is part of why our RPI is lower - because it's looking at the entire season. And, on the other side of the same coin, it's why people are talking an Oklahoma down more than the "experts" - because they played better earlier in the year and had some really big wins but lately have done poorly. But their overall "body of work" taken as a whole still have some impressive marks to it. Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mavric said: I do think the committee used to give some weight to how teams did in their last 10 games. I'm not sure if they still do - I haven't heard any talk about that this year. I think the issue most Nebraska fans have is they are putting a lot of weight on the more recent games and minimizing the earlier games. And I think that's a valid point. I just don't know if that's how the committee looks at it. If they're mainly considering the "body of work" as a whole, I don't think a lot of the arguments people are putting up for Nebraska mean as much. Not that we played terrible early in the year but we definitely weren't playing as well which is part of why our RPI is lower - because it's looking at the entire season. And, on the other side of the same coin, it's why people are talking an Oklahoma down more than the "experts" - because they played better earlier in the year and had some really big wins but lately have done poorly. But their overall "body of work" taken as a whole still have some impressive marks to it. This part has bugged me a lot with Oklahoma. If you actually look at their resume, their best non conference wins rank like this: 1. @ Wichita State - really good road win 2. USC - they are on the bubble 3. Oregon - they won't make the tournament 4. Northwestern - they were terrible this year They lost to Alabama and Arkansas in the non con. They beat North Texas by 10, Nebraska beat them by 19 They beat UTSA by 12, Nebraska beat them by 10 They played UNO (RPI 281), Portland (RPI 285), and Northwestern State (RPI 342) I get that their resume looks better than Nebraska, but it's basically a road win at Wichita State and a lot of meh... (Edit: I'm not directing this at you Mav, it's all the talking heads that are in love with Oklahoma... I don't know how they can justify it) Edited March 6, 2018 by HS_Coach_C Quote Link to comment
PaulCrewe Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Xmas32 said: Have to imagine it helps to a small extent that St. Mary's got beat by BYU in the WCC semis. St Mary’s is In regardless. If BYU beats Gonzaga as well.....well that is a two bid league that just got three and the trickle down effect starts. Every conference tournament needed to chalk out and go as expected for NU to have a chance. And that was BEFORE last Friday Quote Link to comment
Mavric Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, HS_Coach_C said: This part has bugged me a lot with Oklahoma. If you actually look at their resume, their best non conference wins rank like this: 1. @ Wichita State - really good road win 2. USC - they are on the bubble 3. Oregon - they won't make the tournament 4. Northwestern - they were terrible this year They lost to Alabama and Arkansas in the non con. They beat North Texas by 10, Nebraska beat them by 19 They beat UTSA by 12, Nebraska beat them by 10 They played UNO (RPI 281), Portland (RPI 285), and Northwestern State (RPI 342) I get that their resume looks better than Nebraska, but it's basically a road win at Wichita State and a lot of meh... (Edit: I'm not directing this at you Mav, it's all the talking heads that are in love with Oklahoma... I don't know how they can justify it) Why are you only looking at their non-con? They also have wins over TCU, Kansas and Texas Tech. So they have a Top 10 win, a Top 15 win, a Top 20 win, a Top 25 win plus another Quad 1 win (USC). They are two games (record-wise) worse than Nebraska but have a lot more to show in the quality wins category. Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mavric said: Why are you only looking at their non-con? They also have wins over TCU, Kansas and Texas Tech. So they have a Top 10 win, a Top 15 win, a Top 20 win, a Top 25 win plus another Quad 1 win (USC). They are two games (record-wise) worse than Nebraska but have a lot more to show in the quality wins category. Well mostly because I was counting "earlier in the year" as Nov. & Dec., but also because one of the biggest arguments I heard for OU was how well they did in non conference, and how the Big 12 did as a whole. I'm not arguing that Nebraska has a better resume (it's not even close really) The double round robin probably helps them quite a bit in the Big 12 as they get each team at home and on the road. They went 2-9 on the road... (1-8 on the road in conference play) A Nebraska fan grasping at straws could say they could have beat more Quad 1 teams if they had more at home. Yeah, it's possible, but it's also hypothetical. OU actually did it. Edited March 6, 2018 by HS_Coach_C Quote Link to comment
Atbone95 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Can you guys shut up and someone just post another break down on what I'm rooting for the next few days? Let's go Zags baby! Quote Link to comment
Red Five Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) St Mary’s has 2 Q1 wins (Gonzaga, @BYU). BYU is a Q1 win because... wait for it... BYU beat them in the WCC tournament. Edited March 7, 2018 by Red Five Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 57 minutes ago, Atbone95 said: Can you guys shut up and someone just post another break down on what I'm rooting for the next few days? Let's go Zags baby! Root for Nebraska. Oh wait... Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Atbone95 said: Can you guys shut up and someone just post another break down on what I'm rooting for the next few days? Let's go Zags baby! A time traveler who is a Nebraska alumnus to go back and tell the players they're gonna have to not suck when they play Michigan. 1 Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Moiraine said: A time traveler who is a Nebraska alumnus to go back and tell the players they're gonna have to not suck when they play Michigan. I’m on it. Speaking of time travel, I see that some folks decided to update their vote on the poll for this thread post-choke... Quote Link to comment
Atbone95 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Red Five said: St Mary’s has 2 Q1 wins (Gonzaga, @BYU). BYU is a Q1 win because... wait for it... BYU beat them in the WCC tournament. You can be mad about it, but the same happened to us. Michigan would not have been a Q1 win (earlier in the season) if we had beat them in the tourney. Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, VectorVictor said: I’m on it. Speaking of time travel, I see that some folks decided to update their vote on the poll for this thread post-choke... Apparently 4 people think we're not even good enough for the NIT. Quote Link to comment
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