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12 hours ago, TGHusker said:

So, do any of you think Kennedy will be a 2020 presidential candidate or at min a VP choice?  I don't know what kind of depth he has within the party but it must be solid if he was selected to give the response.  The Dem party was smart in having a 'young gun' give the response versus one of the old folks.  I think he would be 39 or 40 then. 

The rebuttal isn't usually done by anyone planning a presidential run as it usually doesn't play well, so I think JK3 got to do it because nobody else wanted to.

 

11 hours ago, dudeguyy said:

 

I hope so. Joe seems like an inspiring guy with a lot of sensible ideas that have broad appeal.

 

One hypothetical ticket I heard somebody toss out was Biden/Kennedy.  I think that would work in terms of appealing to working class voters if a younger Dem cannot win the nomination. I think they'd definitely be able to cut into Trump's advantage with whites & in the Midwest.

What do you think? Could you vote for that ticket?

How does Biden appeal to the working class or younger voters? Biden has been condescending to millenials at least a couple times in the last few months.

 

11 hours ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said:

VP at best. Right now I see Kamala Harris at the top of the democrats ticket

Harris appears to have the inside track with the big money donors, so it's a good bet.

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12 minutes ago, Big Red 40 said:

Still not seeing what booker or Harris offer that Kennedy doesn’t ? Somebody explain 

 

 

I talked to a friend of mine who lives in New York about this. Although it doesn't really matter what New Yorkers think, since they're not gonna vote for anyone but a Democrat anyway. I don't know much about either of them and haven't looked yet, heh.

 

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Booker is a lot better known here than Kennedy. He's also got some 'street cred' having been mayor of Newark NJ (largest city in NJ (pop 277,140)) and a US Senator. While he was mayor of Newark, he ran into a burning house and saved an elderly woman. So he's also got some Hero Status too. Kennedy has been a Representative since 2013 but that's all. I still think he needs more seasoning. But, like I said, it's a long way till 2020.

 

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You'll have to explain that statement more, make no sense to me.

I saw one guy who cares about people, spoke from the heart, and wants to try to improve average Americans (MY) lives. (Kennedy)

I saw another guy brag about a bunch of stuff that doesn't effect my life, and i don't care about.  Self serving non likable person who's blatantly in it for his own ego  and his rich friends. (Trump)

We need many more PEOPLE oriented politicians who actually work for us, and attempt to care about us. Not divisive , nasty, people who are all about money, and themselves.

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You don't remember 45?  Yes, at Obama in 2009 at a joint address to Congress.  It was a great example of the GOP treating the sitting president with respect.


Also, as you watch the video check out the blank stares and stony faces of the GOP.  The fact that people are mentioning that the Dems were out of line at this week's SOTU don't seem to remember that the opposing party does this every year.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/09/joe.wilson/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Wilson_(American_politician)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/us/politics/joe-wilson-you-lie-obama-town-hall.html

 

And here's the video.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgce06Yw2ro

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6 hours ago, Big Red 40 said:

You'll have to explain that statement more, make no sense to me.

I saw one guy who cares about people, spoke from the heart, and wants to try to improve average Americans (MY) lives. (Kennedy)

I saw another guy brag about a bunch of stuff that doesn't effect my life, and i don't care about.  Self serving non likable person who's blatantly in it for his own ego  and his rich friends. (Trump)

We need many more PEOPLE oriented politicians who actually work for us, and attempt to care about us. Not divisive , nasty, people who are all about money, and themselves.

I think he thought your comment was referring to Trump.  As did I :thumbs

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14 hours ago, schriznoeder said:

How soon before he asks for a recount?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hilarious lie by Trump, whose fragile ego forces him to exaggerate.  Note the plug for yellow journalism's poster child as well.

 

 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/01/31/trump-ratings-first-state-union/1084900001/

http://deadline.com/2018/01/state-of-the-union-tv-ratings-donald-trump-barack-obama-1202274787/

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-trump-ratings-20180131-story.html

 

 

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40 minutes ago, knapplc said:

You know what hits me the most about Trump's tweet - it isn't the brag/lie that it was the biggest - that is expected from Trump.  However, his ringing endorsement/bragging on Fox News should send shivers down every free press loving patriot out there.  While we known it to be true for some time that Fox is 'all in' on Trump for ratings - this just reconfirms that Fox will play the role of the propaganda agency on behalf of Trump - they will scratch each other's back.  Trump gets his version of reality shown and Fox gets ratings fueled by non critical thinking Trump bots.  

Is it normal for a President to brag on one network? - I think not. Very dangerous when a president only 'trusts' and supports one news source.  Ok - another inadvertent Hitler comparison that I just thought of:  One of the main reasons, among many, Hitler lost WW 2 was that he refused to listen to his generals - the ones that  had other ideas than his.  Hitler thought of himself as a brilliant military strategist (sound familiar) - which he wasn't.  Generals who opposed his ideas soon found out it wasn't a good career move to do so.  Thus, Hitler became surrounded by yes men who supported his poor strategies.  Trump does something similar - he doesn't value opposing views, esp strong opposing views. He cuts them down.  In so doing he violates the wisdom found through the book of Proverbs in the Bible.  He surrounds himself with media that supports him (Fox - the yes men) and cuts down others.  The wise listen to the correction of others - what does that tell you about Trump.

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