BigRedBuster Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said: So just to confirm, a President shouldn't lie to the public, and when compelling evidence proves he's lied, both parties need to address it on behalf of the American people. Hey....I'm perfectly happy with those guidelines. Link to comment
schriznoeder Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 How soon before he asks for a recount? 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, schriznoeder said: How soon before he asks for a recount? Oh...that's going to chap the President Little Hand's backside. 1 Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 NOBODY CARES (except Trump) Link to comment
RedDenver Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 hours ago, TGHusker said: So, do any of you think Kennedy will be a 2020 presidential candidate or at min a VP choice? I don't know what kind of depth he has within the party but it must be solid if he was selected to give the response. The Dem party was smart in having a 'young gun' give the response versus one of the old folks. I think he would be 39 or 40 then. The rebuttal isn't usually done by anyone planning a presidential run as it usually doesn't play well, so I think JK3 got to do it because nobody else wanted to. 11 hours ago, dudeguyy said: I hope so. Joe seems like an inspiring guy with a lot of sensible ideas that have broad appeal. One hypothetical ticket I heard somebody toss out was Biden/Kennedy. I think that would work in terms of appealing to working class voters if a younger Dem cannot win the nomination. I think they'd definitely be able to cut into Trump's advantage with whites & in the Midwest. What do you think? Could you vote for that ticket? How does Biden appeal to the working class or younger voters? Biden has been condescending to millenials at least a couple times in the last few months. 11 hours ago, 45timesbetterthanemptysuit said: VP at best. Right now I see Kamala Harris at the top of the democrats ticket Harris appears to have the inside track with the big money donors, so it's a good bet. Link to comment
Big Red 40 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I’ve heard a lot that Joe Kennedy was too young /inexperienced so I suggested an older more experienced guy in Biden to run with . Link to comment
Big Red 40 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Still not seeing what booker or Harris offer that Kennedy doesn’t ? Somebody explain Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Big Red 40 said: Still not seeing what booker or Harris offer that Kennedy doesn’t ? Somebody explain I talked to a friend of mine who lives in New York about this. Although it doesn't really matter what New Yorkers think, since they're not gonna vote for anyone but a Democrat anyway. I don't know much about either of them and haven't looked yet, heh. Quote Booker is a lot better known here than Kennedy. He's also got some 'street cred' having been mayor of Newark NJ (largest city in NJ (pop 277,140)) and a US Senator. While he was mayor of Newark, he ran into a burning house and saved an elderly woman. So he's also got some Hero Status too. Kennedy has been a Representative since 2013 but that's all. I still think he needs more seasoning. But, like I said, it's a long way till 2020. Edited February 1, 2018 by Moiraine 1 Link to comment
mrandyk Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 10:29 PM, Big Red 40 said: I thought he knocked it out of the park. Very well done , gives me hope for the future . Selling the future for a very short term gain should not have you optimistic. 1 Link to comment
Big Red 40 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) You'll have to explain that statement more, make no sense to me. I saw one guy who cares about people, spoke from the heart, and wants to try to improve average Americans (MY) lives. (Kennedy) I saw another guy brag about a bunch of stuff that doesn't effect my life, and i don't care about. Self serving non likable person who's blatantly in it for his own ego and his rich friends. (Trump) We need many more PEOPLE oriented politicians who actually work for us, and attempt to care about us. Not divisive , nasty, people who are all about money, and themselves. Edited February 1, 2018 by Big Red 40 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) You don't remember 45? Yes, at Obama in 2009 at a joint address to Congress. It was a great example of the GOP treating the sitting president with respect. Also, as you watch the video check out the blank stares and stony faces of the GOP. The fact that people are mentioning that the Dems were out of line at this week's SOTU don't seem to remember that the opposing party does this every year. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/09/joe.wilson/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Wilson_(American_politician) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/us/politics/joe-wilson-you-lie-obama-town-hall.html And here's the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgce06Yw2ro Edited February 1, 2018 by NM11046 3 Link to comment
funhusker Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Big Red 40 said: You'll have to explain that statement more, make no sense to me. I saw one guy who cares about people, spoke from the heart, and wants to try to improve average Americans (MY) lives. (Kennedy) I saw another guy brag about a bunch of stuff that doesn't effect my life, and i don't care about. Self serving non likable person who's blatantly in it for his own ego and his rich friends. (Trump) We need many more PEOPLE oriented politicians who actually work for us, and attempt to care about us. Not divisive , nasty, people who are all about money, and themselves. I think he thought your comment was referring to Trump. As did I Link to comment
knapplc Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 14 hours ago, schriznoeder said: How soon before he asks for a recount? Hilarious lie by Trump, whose fragile ego forces him to exaggerate. Note the plug for yellow journalism's poster child as well. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/01/31/trump-ratings-first-state-union/1084900001/ http://deadline.com/2018/01/state-of-the-union-tv-ratings-donald-trump-barack-obama-1202274787/ http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-trump-ratings-20180131-story.html 5 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 My God.....It's so predictable. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 40 minutes ago, knapplc said: Hilarious lie by Trump, whose fragile ego forces him to exaggerate. Note the plug for yellow journalism's poster child as well. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/01/31/trump-ratings-first-state-union/1084900001/ http://deadline.com/2018/01/state-of-the-union-tv-ratings-donald-trump-barack-obama-1202274787/ http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-trump-ratings-20180131-story.html You know what hits me the most about Trump's tweet - it isn't the brag/lie that it was the biggest - that is expected from Trump. However, his ringing endorsement/bragging on Fox News should send shivers down every free press loving patriot out there. While we known it to be true for some time that Fox is 'all in' on Trump for ratings - this just reconfirms that Fox will play the role of the propaganda agency on behalf of Trump - they will scratch each other's back. Trump gets his version of reality shown and Fox gets ratings fueled by non critical thinking Trump bots. Is it normal for a President to brag on one network? - I think not. Very dangerous when a president only 'trusts' and supports one news source. Ok - another inadvertent Hitler comparison that I just thought of: One of the main reasons, among many, Hitler lost WW 2 was that he refused to listen to his generals - the ones that had other ideas than his. Hitler thought of himself as a brilliant military strategist (sound familiar) - which he wasn't. Generals who opposed his ideas soon found out it wasn't a good career move to do so. Thus, Hitler became surrounded by yes men who supported his poor strategies. Trump does something similar - he doesn't value opposing views, esp strong opposing views. He cuts them down. In so doing he violates the wisdom found through the book of Proverbs in the Bible. He surrounds himself with media that supports him (Fox - the yes men) and cuts down others. The wise listen to the correction of others - what does that tell you about Trump. 6 Link to comment
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