Stumpy1 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 The B1G doesnt value AAU status as much as you think. We were already on our way out of the AAU when we joined the B1G. Michigan and Wisconsin had voted us out of AAU but yet accepted us into the conference. Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Crazyhole said: So the BIG 10 looked to add 5 teams all at one shot. Not a one was ultimately added. Nebraska was one of those teams...so yeah...one was ultimately added. Quote Do you suppose that maybe this is a story that was told to the media as a shot across the bow of Texas? Texas has long been using the rest of the conference for their own enrichment, this could have just been a way of telling them "hey, we aren't interested in being your whipping boy so let's make things a bit more equitable or we are going to leave". Again, RTFA. The story wasn't published until Barfknecht found a second source to confirm. So no, this wasn't some made-up tale (as you're implying) to take a shot across the bow against Texass. This was a legitimate proposal between those schools and the B1G in response to Texass bolting to the then-Pac-10 that was floated out there and accepted by all schools except aTm (who had problems with the revenue-sharing model). And considering that schools involved left (Nebraska, aTm), looked at leaving (Kansas was poised to move to the Big East before its collapse), or have concerns with the current status quo in the Big XII (Oklahoma), to suggest that this was just a "story" is wishful thinking at best. Quote I'm not saying that the B1G would absolutely not make an exception for Oklahoma, but it's widely known that the conference values AAU acreditation and Oklahoma has a ways to go to get to that point. The conference already knew about Nebraska's issues with the AAU before we were accepted, Notre Dame isn't part of the AAU (and has been the object of the B1G's expansion desires for some time), and Oklahoma isn't part of the AAU and the B1G was perfectly fine with accepting them as-is back in 2010. Plus, the article Redux posted already covered this--you just need to RTFA. Bottom line, AAU accreditation is not a prerequisite for B1G membership, and to think otherwise is a fallacy. 4 Quote Link to comment
Crazyhole Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Ok. So the B1G wants Oklahoma and will ignore their history of only letting in schools with AAU accreditation. Oklahoma would stand to come out very well financially from joining. What's the reason it didn't happen? Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, Crazyhole said: Ok. So the B1G wants Oklahoma and will ignore their history of only letting in schools with AAU accreditation. Oklahoma would stand to come out very well financially from joining. What's the reason it didn't happen? Are you not reading the responses? Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) Playing Wisconsin, Iowa, Oklahoma and 1/2 of (Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State) + 1 big non-conference game would be an epic annual schedule. Would be fun to play Iowa on Labor Day weekend each year and beat their ass to get the season started and then always finish with Oklahoma on Black Friday. Edited February 9, 2018 by ScottyIce Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I would like to see us playing Iowa or Northwestern in weks 1 or 2. Gives us an early test and divisional matchup instead of playing all our OOC matchups in a row. Lets us leave one for later on, just like Bama does. Edited February 9, 2018 by Redux 1 Quote Link to comment
Moiraine Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I think you'd want 4 divisions if we go to 16 teams or more. Playing 7 division games is a lot. You'd hardly ever get games with the other division. OTOH it would probably piss off whichever Big Ten teams got put into a division full of newbies. E.g. Southwest: Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa. But they could do the permanent crossover game again. My ideal 20 team 4 division conference (if we can't kick out Maryland and Rutgers) would be: Nebraska Kansas Kansas State Oklahoma Missouri Minnesota Iowa Iowa State Wisconsin Illinois Notre Dame Northwestern Indiana Michigan State Michigan Ohio State Penn State Rutgers Maryland Pittsburgh Edited February 9, 2018 by Moiraine 1 Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 If we end up adding OU and KU, I expect it to look like this Nebraska Oklahoma Kansas Iowa Wisconsin Minnesota Illinois Northwestern Michigan Michigan State Indiana Purdue Penn State Ohio State Rutgers Maryland Protected crossovers of UM vs tOSU, Iowa vs Wiscy, MSU vs PSU, NU vs Minn etc. 3 Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Crazyhole said: Ok. So the B1G wants Oklahoma and will ignore their history of only letting in schools with AAU accreditation. Oklahoma would stand to come out very well financially from joining. What's the reason it didn't happen? 7 hours ago, Redux said: Are you not reading the responses? 2 Quote Link to comment
gobiggergoredder Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Alphabet - like grade school gym class Illinois Indiana Iowa Maryland Minnesota Michigan Michigan State Nebraska Northwestern Ohio State Penn State Purdue Rutgers Wisconsin Edited February 10, 2018 by gobiggergoredder Quote Link to comment
Making Chimichangas Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 What would be Nebraska fans' reactions if it was discovered UNL was asked to join the SEC? (I realize it makes no sense geographically or in terms of values or culture.) Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Actually, I think it's not that far out of the realm of possibility if: Colorado, Texas, A&M, Tech, Oklahoma and Okie State joined the PAC 10 Missouri got their Big Ten invite I have little doubt the ACC and SEC would have fought to bring Nebraska and Kansas in. Edited February 10, 2018 by Redux Quote Link to comment
ScottyIce Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 While we’re talking, UCLA has openings in 20,21 now. Would be nice to add them and replace a joker. Quote Link to comment
Crazyhole Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 11:07 AM, Redux said: Are you not reading the responses? Yep. And I asked the question of why didn't Oklahoma jump when they were supposedly given the opportunity, but haven't seen a response that addresses it. I also haven't seen anything that shows the B1G has changed their mind about AAU accreditation when history shows that they only take schools that are either already accredited or close to it. It's clearly important to the conference based on empirical evidence. So yes I've read the posts and none of them provide any proof that the B1G would take Oklahoma when everything points to the opposite other than speculation based on a 3rd party account of talks that happened but ultimately led to Oklahoma not joining the conference for apparently no reason. Quote Link to comment
VectorVictor Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 11:07 AM, Redux said: Are you not reading the responses? 20 minutes ago, Crazyhole said: Yep. And I asked the question of why didn't Oklahoma jump when they were supposedly given the opportunity, but haven't seen a response that addresses it. I also haven't seen anything that shows the B1G has changed their mind about AAU accreditation when history shows that they only take schools that are either already accredited or close to it. It's clearly important to the conference based on empirical evidence. So yes I've read the posts and none of them provide any proof that the B1G would take Oklahoma when everything points to the opposite other than speculation based on a 3rd party account of talks that happened but ultimately led to Oklahoma not joining the conference for apparently no reason. Sooooo...that’s a “no” to Redux’s question then. 1 Quote Link to comment
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