jaws Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Saunders said: Regarding the bolded... that's what happens when you're lead by a person who is used to losing, and expects to lose going into the game. That attitude rubbed off on the team. That's rsto's first thing to fix, IMO. With Frost as HC, I fully expect Nebraska to give OSU a good game. I don't know how you guys managed watching Husker football over the last few years. 1 Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, jaws said: With Frost as HC, I fully expect Nebraska to give OSU a good game. I don't know how you guys managed watching Husker football over the last few years. Lots of booze. Last season, I checked out after Oregon, and didn't plan around games like I normally would. It was the least amount of Husker FB I've watched since I was like 9. I'm looking forward to Nebraska getting better, and not watching teams race out to 35-0 leads. Quote Link to comment
NUinID Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Saunders said: That's my bet for a vegas number. Either 6.5 or 7. The team clearly had mailed it in down the stretch last year, and weren't performing as well as they could. That said... probable wins in bold. 09/01 - Akron 09/08 - Colorado 09/15 - Troy 09/22 - @ Michigan 09/29 - Purdue 10/06 - @ Wisconsin 10/13 - @ Northwestern 10/20 - Minnesota 11/03 - @ Ohio State 11/10 - Illinois 11/17 - Michigan State 11/23 - @ Iowa First 3 don't really scare me, Purdue will hold serve, maybe step back in year 2 when people aren't surprised. Illinois is trash, Minnesota is blah, and NW is going to go backwards this season without JJ. That's not exactly a hard stretch to say we win those games, and that puts you at 7. Then you steal 1 from Michigan, Wisconsin, MSU, or Iowa (OSU ain't happening), and you can get to 8. This is basically how I see it going. Which is a realistic expectation IMO. I think they probably win these games and then you hope they can sneak in and win 1 more over those teams. Edited February 13, 2018 by NUinID 3 Quote Link to comment
HS_Coach_C Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 So to recap: 1. We may or may not win games this year. 2. Mike Riley and Bo Pelini may or may not have been bad recruiters. 3. Some fans may or may not have unreasonable expectations for this year. 4. Some people may or may not struggle with reading comprehension and grammar. 5. Coach Frost is awesome. Did I miss anything? 1 Quote Link to comment
4skers89 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, Saunders said: Regarding the bolded... that's what happens when you're lead by a person who is used to losing, and expects to lose going into the game. That attitude rubbed off on the team. That's Frost's first thing to fix, IMO. I don't think the players were particularly bothered by getting blown out either. I believe that attitude started before Riley arrived. So many things for Frost to fix but I believe he will. My expectations remain the same- be competitive in every game and play hard to the end. It's been too long since the team has meant those expectations. Quote Link to comment
huskerfan333157 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Redux said: You're basing your predictions like Nebraska didn't make a massive coaching upgrade. It's weird. Might want to look at a history book. Alabama made a massive upgrade in 06and only went 7-6. It takes time to change a culture and implement a system. By your logic, Alabama should have went undefeated in Sabans first year...(they went 7-6 btw). Quote Link to comment
huskerfan333157 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Saunders said: That's my bet for a vegas number. Either 6.5 or 7. The team clearly had mailed it in down the stretch last year, and weren't performing as well as they could. That said... probable wins in bold. 09/01 - Akron 09/08 - Colorado 09/15 - Troy 09/22 - @ Michigan 09/29 - Purdue 10/06 - @ Wisconsin 10/13 - @ Northwestern 10/20 - Minnesota 11/03 - @ Ohio State 11/10 - Illinois 11/17 - Michigan State 11/23 - @ Iowa First 3 don't really scare me, Purdue will hold serve, maybe step back in year 2 when people aren't surprised. Illinois is trash, Minnesota is blah, and NW is going to go backwards this season without JJ. That's not exactly a hard stretch to say we win those games, and that puts you at 7. Then you steal 1 from Michigan, Wisconsin, MSU, or Iowa (OSU ain't happening), and you can get to 8. I expect us to win the first three but those opponents aren't slouches. CU should be improved and troy did beat LSU last year. I think Purdue will beat us. I think we beat northestern and Iowa. Losses: MSU, Michigan, Purdue, OSU, Wisconsin, and either northwestern or Iowa (I think we take one of those). Quote Link to comment
Saunders Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, huskerfan333157 said: I expect us to win the first three but those opponents aren't slouches. CU should be improved and troy did beat LSU last year. I think Purdue will beat us. I think we beat northestern and Iowa. Losses: MSU, Michigan, Purdue, OSU, Wisconsin, and either northwestern or Iowa (I think we take one of those). I mean, sure Purdue could win, but they also couldn't beat the worst Nebraska team in nearly 50 years last season. Do you think they'll improve more than Nebraska does this season, and win in Lincoln? Because I don't. 3 Quote Link to comment
huskerfan333157 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Saunders said: I mean, sure Purdue could win, but they also couldn't beat the worst Nebraska team in nearly 50 years last season. Do you think they'll improve more than Nebraska does this season, and win in Lincoln? Because I don't. Brohm is an underrated coach and yes I can see them improving enough to beat us next year (won't happen the following year though). Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 32 minutes ago, huskerfan333157 said: Might want to look at a history book. Alabama made a massive upgrade in 06and only went 7-6. It takes time to change a culture and implement a system. By your logic, Alabama should have went undefeated in Sabans first year...(they went 7-6 btw). Yeah, well aware of Saban's first year. You missed the history lesson by several posts btw. And It's quite the stretch to say that I am demanding perfection. 8 or 9 wins is a reasonable goal in year 1 because that's the bar that was set 10 years ago. 8 or 9 wins against a strong schedule would be marked improvement. Finishing 6-6 would be a disappointment if you are striving to win 8 or 9, see how that works? I promise nobody on staff or team is hoping for .500, I promise that. There is no rule that states year one has to be a 5 to 7 win ceiling. That's the biggest black eye Riley has left on this program, accepting mediocrity and this discussion is a prime example of it. As Moos said months ago, we should be disappointed if we finish 8-4 Quote Link to comment
Landlord Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Redux do you realize that you keep cycling between 17 different arguments/strawmen to argue against and none of them are the same thing? Make up your damn mind dude Quote Link to comment
Redux Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Landlord said: Redux do you realize that you keep cycling between 17 different arguments/strawmen to argue against and none of them are the same thing? Make up your damn mind dude Pretty simple, listen closely. 6-6 would be disappointing and is a pretty weak goal to frame a team after even though we went 4-8 and face an ugly on paper schedule. Got all that? 1 hour ago, huskerfan333157 said: Brohm is an underrated coach and yes I can see them improving enough to beat us next year (won't happen the following year though). Well if he's so great they should beat us in 2019 too then! It's Purdue. They should never beat us, plain and simple. Edited February 13, 2018 by Redux 2 Quote Link to comment
Lil' Red Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Saunders said: That's my bet for a vegas number. Either 6.5 or 7. The team clearly had mailed it in down the stretch last year, and weren't performing as well as they could. That said... probable wins in bold. 09/01 - Akron 09/08 - Colorado 09/15 - Troy 09/22 - @ Michigan 09/29 - Purdue 10/06 - @ Wisconsin 10/13 - @ Northwestern 10/20 - Minnesota 11/03 - @ Ohio State 11/10 - Illinois 11/17 - Michigan State 11/23 - @ Iowa First 3 don't really scare me, Purdue will hold serve, maybe step back in year 2 when people aren't surprised. Illinois is trash, Minnesota is blah, and NW is going to go backwards this season without JJ. That's not exactly a hard stretch to say we win those games, and that puts you at 7. Then you steal 1 from Michigan, Wisconsin, MSU, or Iowa (OSU ain't happening), and you can get to 8. I agree with the bold being probable wins but I think it's much more likely that we drop one of the bold than that we steal 1 of the others. With the possible exception of Iowa, all those teams will be ranked going into the season and 4 of those 5 games are on the road. I'd take the under if the win total is set to 6.5 or above. Quote Link to comment
huskerfan333157 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Redux said: Yeah, well aware of Saban's first year. You missed the history lesson by several posts btw. And It's quite the stretch to say that I am demanding perfection. 8 or 9 wins is a reasonable goal in year 1 because that's the bar that was set 10 years ago. 8 or 9 wins against a strong schedule would be marked improvement. Finishing 6-6 would be a disappointment if you are striving to win 8 or 9, see how that works? I promise nobody on staff or team is hoping for .500, I promise that. There is no rule that states year one has to be a 5 to 7 win ceiling. That's the biggest black eye Riley has left on this program, accepting mediocrity and this discussion is a prime example of it. As Moos said months ago, we should be disappointed if we finish 8-4 Well, we've been mediocre since 2003. Sorry, but youre living too much in the past, programs have caught up. I think frost will get us back into being a top 10/15 program and competing in the playoff once every 3 years. Quote Link to comment
Ratt Mhule Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 hours ago, huskerfan333157 said: Yes. We have too many toss up games. Guaranteed losses: OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan state. Toss ups: Minnesota, Iowa, purdue, northwestern, Colorado Guaranteed wins: fighting illini, Akron, troy (closer than what people think) Lol. Even Rileys teams almost beat Wisconsin all three years they played and now with a better coached team they are a guaranteed loss? Like I said, lol 2 Quote Link to comment
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