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6 minutes ago, ZRod said:

The dissolution of key alliance in Europe has always leads to great things.

Any direct intervention from France or other NATO members as mentioned above would make this a broader conflict. European boys can die plenty for their beliefs. 

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12 hours ago, Decked said:

Any direct intervention from France or other NATO members as mentioned above would make this a broader conflict. European boys can die plenty for their beliefs. 

Russia chooses how this conflict will go. Like it or not we're pretty deeply intertwined with Europe, and always will be. It's not about beliefs, it's about trying to protect freedom. Something we used to believe in.

 

That said, Macron is an idiot.

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12 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Russia chooses how this conflict will go. Like it or not we're pretty deeply intertwined with Europe, and always will be. It's not about beliefs, it's about trying to protect freedom. Something we used to believe in.

 

That's said, Macron is an idiot.

I don't want war but sometimes it is the only option.  I agree with you that ussia decides what is next.  The weird thing is that by now, they could essentially be the USA of Europe but amazingly they did EVERYTHING wrong. 

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