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That was unbelievable.  I'm absolutely dumbfounded at that performance.  He was clearly weaker than Putin.

 

But...let's remember, Trump believes Putin because....you know....Putin told him so.

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45 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

Remember when Republicans were outraged when Obama went on his "apology tour"?

So true,  I was one of them back then.  Trump has proven he is on putin's string - He can be 'tough' on illegals, Muslims, etc but he is a girly man in Putin's presence.   The guy melted like a grilled cheese sandwich.   When one looks at his comments today, his harsh talk about NATO, the UK, and EU one can't help but wonder -- who's team is he on.  The all Trump team which he wants to preserve by giving into Putin's apparent blackmail of him.   He's got to be compromised and I suspect it is in all of those 'loans' and building purchases by Russians and hidden in those tax returns he'll never release. 

Who's body language is more firm - Obama's with this stare down. 

 

 

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Obama and Putin give each other the evil eye at the G-20 summit in Hangzhou, China, on Monday

Or Trump's wink at Putin today:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6791406/bizarre-moment-donald-trump-winks-at-putin-during-high-stakes-summit/

US President Donald Trump appeared to wink at Vladimir Putin as the world leaders met face-to-face in Finland today.

Flanked by Russian and US flags, they sat awkwardly just feet apart at the start of their long-awaited summit in Helsinki.

 

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Trump didn't "miss an opportunity." He did what he was always going to do - defer to Putin, cast doubt on election interference, minimize the situation and allow Putin to control the stage.

 

That was the point of this meeting from the day it was set up. The agenda was followed the way it was supposed to be followed.

 

Pretending otherwise is ignorance or collaboration.

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So Sarah Sanders - how do you spin Trump's performance today.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/baghdad-bob-and-his-ridiculous-true-predictions/274241/

Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf speaks during news conference in Baghdad on March 24, 2003. (Reuters)

In March of 2003, Saddam's Minister of Information was everybody's favorite inadvertent comedian. Sporting a kicky black beret and delightfully bombastic lexicon, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf appeared on TV daily to predict American failure and deny the Baghdad invasion--sometimes even as U.S. tanks appeared behind him. "He's great," President George W. Bush said of Sahaf, admitting that he occasionally interrupted meetings to watch Sahaf's briefings. "Someone accused us of hiring him and putting him there. He was a classic."

 

(can't post pictures- I get an error message - not sure why)

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21 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

This needs a name behind it, otherwise it's cowardice to standby anonymously. I refuse to believe anyone in his cabinet intelligent enough to says this, will just standby as the US is disemboweleed.

 

The Trumpsters at work are loving this... "It's amazing what he's done really!" "We have too many wars." "Look how he handled North Korea, he's amazing." They're so blind...

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1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

So...let me get this straight.  Trump wants Putin's own people to be inside the Mueller investigation.  Wow....just....wow.....

 

 

More on this from Vox.  It is just inconceivable that Trump isn't a Putin Puppet with the threat of  blackmail hanging over his head based on this one "INCREDIBLE' statement alone. The great negotiator has outdone himself - he's gotten Putin to investigate his own govt.  What a wheeler dealer, art of the deal guy he is. :sarcasm

From Vox:

Regarding what I highlighted in bold - I hope Mueller's comment comes in the form of a legal document with recommendation for impeachment based on collusion and coverup charges against Trump.  I wonder how Rush, Hannity etc are spinning this today?   So much for patriotism.

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/17576788/putin-trump-meeting-election-idea-hacking

 

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In other words, this is Putin’s “interesting idea” to address exhaustively documented allegations that employees of the Russian government tried to interfere in the 2016 presidential campaign by hacking into, and publishing, private emails from one major party in the campaign:

  1. Have Russian government officials ask other Russian government officials if the Russian government told them to commit a crime.
  2. Let US officials watch Russian officials ask other Russian officials if the Russian government told them to commit a crime.
  3. Send Russian officials into the US to investigate allegations against domestic critics of Vladimir Putin.

But if Putin offered a quid pro quo, Trump appears to have heard only a favor. He later praised Putin for his willingness in cooperating in the investigation into his own government:

What he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. I think that’s an incredible offer.

It is “incredible” — in that it is extremely hard to believe that a government whose employees are being investigated by a foreign country is going to participate, in good faith, in that investigation while denying out of hand that any wrongdoing took place. But Trump appears to believe just that.

Mueller’s office has declined to comment.

 

 

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After Trump's 'performance today:

Obi Wan (Mueller) is our only hope as I know the repubs in congress are spineless and the Dems may not take over congress - esp both Senate and House

 

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I was always very concerned about Trump becoming President.

 

But I never thought he'd be this bad. 

 

I saw him bringing in legitimate experts, using their expertise, then taking credit for it.

 

I could have lived with that. It would have tilted right, but it might also have taken on some bloated GOP excess. He had adversaries on both sides. 

 

But Donald Trump appears to have sunk further into a private agenda that is petty at best, calculated treason at worst, and extremely dangerous either way.

 

He is not the strongman voters thought they were electing. America's enemies don't fear Trump: they see a U.S. leader who can be manipulated like a child. 

 

At this point we need to ignore Trump. He's shown us who he is.

 

All the pressure should be on the GOP (when will they take action against their President rather than get burned by history) and on Fox News (when will they stop playing the role of Pravda and admit something is terribly wrong with their President) 

 

 

 

 

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Trump's own Director of Intelligence contradicts him.

 

 

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WARNING - PURE SPECULATION!!!!!

 

I've been trying to figure out the sequence of events with this meeting and why they went as they did.

 

So...let me throw out this conspiracy theory. (I want to stress those two words)

 

How possible is it that Trump agreed to the one on one meeting with Putin because he wanted proof if Putin actually had the pee tapes.  So.....they meet, Putin shows in the pee tapes (in private) and that caused the total surrender in the press conference.

 

I find it amazing that just about every major politician in the US is appalled by this performance and has specifically spoken out about it from both sides (Crap, I used those two words).

 

I honestly don't ever remember this type of reaction after our President went to visit a another world leader.

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Just now, commando said:

well...now that the surrender summit is over what happens now?

 

Trump will tweet in the morning how this was the bigliest and most successful summit in human history.

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41 minutes ago, Fru said:

Any Trumpers care to weigh in? 

give me a second to sell my soul and channel them for you.......

 

YAY! Yippee! Yahoo!  

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56 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

How possible is it that Trump agreed to the one on one meeting with Putin because he wanted proof if Putin actually had the pee tapes.  So.....they meet, Putin shows in the pee tapes (in private) and that caused the total surrender in the press conference.

 

 

It can't be the pee tapes. At this point, if such tapes were released, it would only help Trump, as it would serve as a distraction from everything else. He's already gotten a pass for so much disgusting personal behavior that the pee tapes would be irrelevant.

 

We've got a true crisis on our hands: oh how we pine for the days in which the presence of pee tapes would be the worst problem to worry about!

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1 minute ago, Ulty said:

 

It can't be the pee tapes. At this point, if such tapes were released, it would only help Trump, as it would serve as a distraction from everything else. He's already gotten a pass for so much disgusting personal behavior that the pee tapes would be irrelevant.

 

We've got a true crisis on our hands: oh how we pine for the days in which the presence of pee tapes would be the worst problem to worry about!

 

OK....the only other thing I can think of is Trump was being funneled Russian money and other kinds of help to get him elected.  Putin told him that he could release all the information on it if he doesn't surrender.

 

Wouldn't it be nice to see his tax returns?

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The fact that this meeting was allowed to happen without witnesses is probably the most ridiculous thing that’s happened during Trumps  presidency , and that’s saying a lot. Why was this ever allowed to happen in the first place? 

My suspicion all along has been that Donnie is in massive financial debt to Putin? Putin owns Trump and this meeting was for Trump to receive his orders from Putin on what to say and how he wants things done . 

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Just now, BigRedBuster said:

 

OK....the only other thing I can think of is Trump was being funneled Russian money and other kinds of help to get him elected.  Putin told him that he could release all the information on it if he doesn't surrender.

 

Wouldn't it be nice to see his tax returns?

That is what I mentioned above.  I think Putin has the ability to blackmail Trump.  Trump has been compromised and he knows it.  His ''performance" has no other reasonable explanation.  I cannot think of any president at any time in our history who would have said the things Trump said today. 

I hope  this is the day that Trump has lost the confidence of the Republican party and now the party, for their own survival will stand up and do something.  Will it happen - the track record says no but I can only hope.

I cannot imagine a president taking the side of a dictator over his own intelligence community.  How do you think those guys feel after being thrown under the bus before the whole world??  Trump has lost all credibility (what little he had).  He's shown to be an emperor with out clothes.  Time to remove the buffoon. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5959579/You-watching-one-disgraceful-performances-president-Anderson-Cooper.html

 

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President Trump responded by first trying to change the narrative.   

'So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server, why haven't they taken the server. Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the democratic national committee,' said President Trump. 

'I've been wondering that. I've been asking that for months and months and I've been tweeting it out and calling it  out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying? With that being said, all I can do is ask the question.'

He then answered the question of who he believed more by saying: 'So I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. And what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. I think that's an incredible offer. Okay thank you.' 

Jim Acosta, who has been at the receiving end of President Trump's public attacks more than any other reporter since he took office, also weighed in on the press conference. 

'Yeah, Anderson. I think what you were just saying there a few moments ago, I think that sums it up nicely. This was the president of the United States essentially taking the word of the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, over his own law enforcement agency on this critical question,' said Acosta, who was in the room for the remarks.  

He then spoke about President Trump's response to that AP question, going on to detail his own reaction.

'But I will tell you, it was astonishing, just astonishing to be in the room with the US president and with the Russian president on this critical question of election interference and to hear the president of the United States retreat back to these talking points about DNC servers and Hillary Clinton's e-mails when he had a chance right there in front of us, right there in front of the world to confront Vladimir Putin and tell him to stay the hell out of American democracy, and he just didn't do it,' said Acosta.

'It was one of those moments, I think, obviously we all think this is a very big deal right now and sometimes these sorts of things can fade away. But I don't think this is one of those moments.'

 

 

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I bet all these Republicans are worrying themselves sick hoping they've worded their statements strongly enough that no one notices when they continue to do nothing to actually address the situation.

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