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4 hours ago, StPaulHusker said:

Even if Vedral gets a waiver it doesn’t mean anything to me.  He played sparingly against teams in the AAC.  He, in my opinion, has no more advantage than the other QB’s.

 

He could be the greatest Nebraska QB ever.  No one knows.  His experience at UCF doesn’t make me lean either way.  Now if he had come in and started due to Milton being injured and had more games behind him, I might have a different opinion.

 

Wasn't really referring to game experience - as you stated he doesn't have much and even less when it mattered.  I'm thinking he just has a leg up of hours spent with the staff.  Doesn't mean his boat is any faster or better - just that he has a different perspective then the others.  It's just nice to have some options that could pan out nicely.

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50 minutes ago, alohaah said:

This thread is cringe worthy. We don't even know who Urban will announce as the starter, let alone if Frost even wants to bring in a grad transfer. Frost is really smart and knows what he is doing. None of us know how well the QB's are picking things up and are able to execute the offense. There is a chance Frost is ready to roll with what he has on the roster and go with 2 QB's out of high school for this cycle. 

 

If I put money on the table for what Frost will do, he will bring in 2 high school QB's. 

 

 

 

Man you are way to logical for this thread and many others - Thxs for the solid insight over the past several days.

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7 hours ago, ScottyIce said:

LMAO. This is truly hilarious. So in your reality, our QB’s are better than tOSU’s right now? Lol. Man, you should do stand up!

What?  My reality is that a guy that has sat the bench at Ohio St and has done virtually nothing in his career has shown nothing to prove he is better than the QB’s the Huskers have.  How is that difficult to understand?

 

Im not saying he’s isn’t.  I’m not saying our guys are better.  I’m saying there is nothing he’s done other than garbage time minutes that could make people believe he’s better.  

 

Husker fans need to just pump the brakes on this guy.  I know he has Nebraska ties and people are still smarting that Bo went for him in a last ditch effort but that doesn’t mean he’d immediately be the best QB in the room.

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6 hours ago, GBRFAN said:

 

Wasn't really referring to game experience - as you stated he doesn't have much and even less when it mattered.  I'm thinking he just has a leg up of hours spent with the staff.  Doesn't mean his boat is any faster or better - just that he has a different perspective then the others.  It's just nice to have some options that could pan out nicely.

Vedrals experience in this offense is very helpful.  No question.  The point I’m trying to get at was he didn’t instantly become a major P5 QB just because he played in a few games at UCF.  We should just be cautiously optimistic about him and be happy if we have more depth at that position 

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7 hours ago, swmohusker said:

True that!  Probably has a 33% chance to start for that Patriots next year. its just math guys.  I might try to make an  NFL roster this year.  

Burrow is battling Haskins to be the starter.  No one else is in the race.  That’s a 50% chance.

 

IF Burrow were to transfer to Nebraska, he would be competing, as it is right now, against 3 other QB’s to be starter.  That’s a 25% chance. 

 

I dont get why this is a difficult concept for some of you.

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On the Ohio State boards there is a lot of chatter about him going to Nebraska if he decides to leave if not named the starter. There is a lot to take place yet, and like I mentioned in my earlier post, we do not know much from spring practice. Everything right now from Ohio State and Nebraska fans is all speculation. He graduates next month so there might be a few days to a few weeks before we know anything. 

 

I could see Urban naming Burrow the starter just to keep him on the roster. It isn't like he doesn't know he would transfer if not named the starter. 

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4 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Burrow is battling Haskins to be the starter.  No one else is in the race.  That’s a 50% chance.

 

IF Burrow were to transfer to Nebraska, he would be competing, as it is right now, against 3 other QB’s to be starter.  That’s a 25% chance. 

 

I dont get why this is a difficult concept for some of you.

Just because there is 2 people doesn't mean a 50/50 shot.  Agree to disagree

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28 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Burrow is battling Haskins to be the starter.  No one else is in the race.  That’s a 50% chance.

 

IF Burrow were to transfer to Nebraska, he would be competing, as it is right now, against 3 other QB’s to be starter.  That’s a 25% chance. 

 

I dont get why this is a difficult concept for some of you.

 

Sir,, the competition he is up against at OSU to be the starter is tougher than here right now. That may not be the case in a couple of years as Frost builds his own roster, but as of today it is harder to be the starter at OSU. Let's keep it real. 

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8 hours ago, swmohusker said:

True that!  Probably has a 33% chance to start for that Patriots next year. its just math guys.  I might try to make an  NFL roster this year.  

What position you thinking? I’m going to go K, you go P that way we both have a 50/50 shot. Deal?

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17 minutes ago, ScottyIce said:

What position you thinking? I’m going to go K, you go P that way we both have a 50/50 shot. Deal?

I'll be you're guy's long snapper

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10 minutes ago, Swiv3D said:

I'll be you're guy's long snapper

Heck yeah!! Now we are talking.  I have my resignation papers filled out.  Lets get it!!

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1 hour ago, StPaulHusker said:

What?  My reality is that a guy that has sat the bench at Ohio St and has done virtually nothing in his career has shown nothing to prove he is better than the QB’s the Huskers have.  How is that difficult to understand?

 

 

You keep doing this. You have a point but you're defending it with a nonsensical statement and then asking other people why they don't understand.

 

Nebraska could have 100 QBs. That doesn't mean Burrow would have a 1% chance of starting here and a 50% chance at OSU.

 

If you don't make statements like that, people won't argue them.

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All things equal, starting from scratch the OSU job is tougher to win. For Joe Burrow who has been in the OSU system for 3 years, the OSU job may be the more likely opportunity for him to win.

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Just now, Nebfanatic said:

All things equal, starting from scratch the OSU job is tougher to win. For Joe Burrow who has been in the OSU system for 3 years, the OSU job may be the more likely opportunity for him to win.

Everyone at Nebraska is starting from scratch.  Well... I guess they have a 3 month head start.  

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4 minutes ago, swmohusker said:

Everyone at Nebraska is starting from scratch.  Well... I guess they have a 3 month head start.  

Seems easier to me to win a job with a system I already know than to try and learn a new playbook then operate it the best over the course of a few months with no help from coaches until fall camp. Not to say he couldn't, because he probably could, but again, OSU is still the path of least resistance between Burrow and a starting spot. 

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1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

Seems easier to me to win a job with a system I already know than to try and learn a new playbook then operate it the best over the course of a few months with no help from coaches until fall camp. Not to say he couldn't, because he probably could, but again, OSU is still the path of least resistance between Burrow and a starting spot. 

I believe everyone is assuming if he comes here it is bc he didnt win the job this Spring even though it seemed as though he outplayed or was equal to D Haskins.  In that case his best bet would probably transferring to another school.  Ideally for him he would win the job were he is at.  

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20 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

You keep doing this. You have a point but you're defending it with a nonsensical statement and then asking other people why they don't understand.

 

Nebraska could have 100 QBs. That doesn't mean Burrow would have a 1% chance of starting here and a 50% chance at OSU.

 

If you don't make statements like that, people won't argue them.

Joe Burrow has done NOTHING of substance at OSU to assume that he is better than any QB that is currently on Nebraska's roster.  So they would essentially all be on equal footing for the starting job.  Therefore he has no better shot (on paper) at being the starter than anyone else.  So it should be reasonable that he has a 1 in 4 shot at being the starter should he transfer.  That's not nonsensical.  Thats plain logic.

 

It's no different than when some people on here look at a recruits HS game tape and start making prognostications that the kid will "start day 1" here.  

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14 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Joe Burrow has done NOTHING of substance at OSU to assume that he is better than any QB that is currently on Nebraska's roster.  So they would essentially all be on equal footing for the starting job.  Therefore he has no better shot (on paper) at being the starter than anyone else.  So it should be reasonable that he has a 1 in 4 shot at being the starter should he transfer.  That's not nonsensical.  Thats plain logic.

 

It's no different than when some people on here look at a recruits HS game tape and start making prognostications that the kid will "start day 1" here.  

Still has more snaps during Nebraska games than any other Nebraska qb on the roster.

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11 minutes ago, deedsker said:

Still has more snaps during Nebraska games than any other Nebraska qb on the roster.

Speaking of nonsensical

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Here's the thing: if Burrow transfers from OSU, he's transferring to be a starter. Would he be that here? Would Frost make that kind of a statement to him? I think the answer to both of those is a solid "No". 

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i don't think we have to worry about this, being #2 at OSU means he will likely get some playing time there anyway. few qbs make it through the entire season.

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36 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Speaking of nonsensical

Actually it is just a fact. He has played in two games against Nebraska. He has played in 7 B1G games. Take what you want from it, they are still facts.

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Let's refocus ourselves a bit (and stop some of the not-so-subtle trolling) as this thread is getting a bit silly.

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23 minutes ago, deedsker said:

Actually it is just a fact. He has played in two games against Nebraska. He has played in 7 B1G games. Take what you want from it, they are still facts.

Your facts are irrelevant.  What he did AGAINST Nebraska has no basis on what he could do FOR Nebraska.  

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9 minutes ago, StPaulHusker said:

Your facts are irrelevant.  What he did AGAINST Nebraska has no basis on what he could do FOR Nebraska.  

That is what you believe.

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3 hours ago, StPaulHusker said:

Vedrals experience in this offense is very helpful.  No question.  The point I’m trying to get at was he didn’t instantly become a major P5 QB just because he played in a few games at UCF.  We should just be cautiously optimistic about him and be happy if we have more depth at that position 

Agree 100% - glad to see the competition.

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I think it is a fair assessment to make that Ohio State has better players than Nebraska.  It is also a fair assumption to believe that Ohio State has more talented players at the QB position for an offense that is very similar to what we will be running now at Nebraska.  If the competition is close between two players to be the starting QB at Ohio State, and the player that winds up in second place is eligible immediately with two years to play, then they are probably better suited compared to the current QBs here already to be a starter at Nebraska who has no players with experience in an offense of this type eligible right now.

 

However, I could also complete be on board if the coaching staff decides they like what they have for the future and do not bring him on board as I am sure that Burrow would be looking for a 2 year starter opportunity.  I don't see Frost making a deal like that before he even sees the kid practice.

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3 hours ago, alohaah said:

 

Sir,, the competition he is up against at OSU to be the starter is tougher than here right now. That may not be the case in a couple of years as Frost builds his own roster, but as of today it is harder to be the starter at OSU. Let's keep it real. 

 

I don't know.  I'm not ready to anoint Haskins as some great QB just yet (or Tua from Alabama for that matter) based off of results from playing part of a game.  I've seen that scene play out way too many times where the backup QB with a different skill set looks like the second coming because the defense doesn't know how to react and gets "brain freeze" because they game planned to handle the starting QB and his weaknesses.  I'll let them start for a season first before I see how they rate.

 

 

Also, right now it appears that the QB room has great chemistry.  I don't know if you want to take the risk of messing that up by bringing in a grad transfer.

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1 minute ago, yort2000 said:

 

I don't know.  I'm not ready to anoint Haskins as some great QB just yet (or Tua from Alabama for that matter) based off of results from playing part of a game.  I've seen that scene play out way too many times where the backup QB with a different skill set looks like the second coming because the defense doesn't know how to react and gets "brain freeze" because they game planned to handle the starting QB and his weaknesses.  I'll let them start for a season first before I see how they rate.

 

 

Also, right now it appears that the QB room has great chemistry.  I don't know if you want to take the risk of messing that up by bringing in a grad transfer.

 

This. And the reason why you will not see Frost name a starter is that he will want the players to come to him to say they want x starting. Player driven. 

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