JJ Husker Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 hours ago, TGHusker said: Very good point. Trump isn't the first politician to ride that horse (no pun intended) What could get him is if the use of campaign funds for hush money is a violation of campaign finance laws. Does anyone have insight on that? It may be another piece of rope he gives Mueller to hang himself with. (I guess his genius isn't that far removed from the Apple Dumpling Gang - you would have to know the line in the movie to get it - Don Knotts and Tim Conway at their best). That was basically the whole gist of the 60 Minutes thing. His attorney paid her hush money with his personal funds but that payoff, because of when it occurred and the letterhead on communications, is likely an illegal campaign contribution. $130k is about $125k more than Trump's attorney is allowed to give legally to the campaign. If anything comes from this, that will probably be the focus. Link to comment
Moiraine Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Comfortably Numb said: That was basically the whole gist of the 60 Minutes thing. His attorney paid her hush money with his personal funds but that payoff, because of when it occurred and the letterhead on communications, is likely an illegal campaign contribution. $130k is about $125k more than Trump's attorney is allowed to give legally to the campaign. If anything comes from this, that will probably be the focus. I think maybe it was answered in the interview but is it also illegal to accept it? I believe her lawyer mentioned that Trump could pay him back even now. Link to comment
funhusker Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Moiraine said: I think maybe it was answered in the interview but is it also illegal to accept it? I believe her lawyer mentioned that Trump could pay him back even now. I believe he said Trump could "mitigate" the punishment (if there were to be one) by paying it back, but the crime has already been committed. I understood it to be like doing a "dine and dash" when you're out drinking with friends, but then going back to IHOP the next day to pay because you sobered up and felt bad. IHOP still has every right to call the cops, but you're hoping they take your money, apology, and promise that you'll never come back. I think the problem for Cohen though is Trump would have to admit he knew about the whole thing if he reimbursed Cohen. Trump has denied having any involvement from the beginning. Although it might not even make a difference, he'd still deny any involvement.... Edited March 26, 2018 by funhusker Link to comment
jsneb83 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, commando said: besides the potential payment illegalities this stands out to me https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/26/stormy-daniels-i-was-told-to-leave-trump-alone-in-parking-lot-threat Daniels was on her way to a fitness class with her infant daughter when she said she was accosted. “A guy walked up on me and said to me, ‘Leave Trump alone. Forget the story.’” It was at that point that the alleged threat of physical violence was made, according to her account. Daniels told CBS that the man, who she could not identify, “leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, ‘That’s a beautiful little girl. It’d be a shame if something happened to her mom.’ And then he was gone.” So Trump hired the Mafia? Link to comment
commando Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 3 hours ago, jsneb83 said: So Trump hired the Mafia? let's just say that i don't believe that don has to look far to find mafia friends Link to comment
deedsker Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/04/05/onpolitics-today-trump-denies-knowledge-stormy-daniels-payment-legal-misstep/491647002/ Quote Trump's words Thursday could bring legal blowback for Cohen. If Cohen made the payment with his own funds — as he has claimed — but without Trump's knowledge, the payment could amount to an illegal contribution to Trump's campaign. Link to comment
TGHusker Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Trump's statement yesterday may be his 'stain on the blue dress' moment. This link has a video explaining the deep do-do Trump is in because of it. Legally he could be exposed through several angles. https://thinkprogress.org/trump-finally-spoke-about-stormy-daniels-and-he-made-things-much-worse-2b47c06c6648/ Link to comment
knapplc Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) I'm sure there's nothing to see here. Quote F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress. Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search “completely inappropriate and unnecessary.” The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller’s investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York. “Today the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, Michael Cohen, and his clients,” said Stephen Ryan, his lawyer. “I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller.” Mr. Cohen plays a role in aspects of the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. He also recently said he paid $130,000 to a pornographic-film actress, Stephanie Clifford, who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump. Ms. Clifford is known as Stormy Daniels. Yes, one would think ^^^ Edited April 9, 2018 by knapplc 3 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Methinks we will either see some nutball tweets later - or we will bomb Syria. Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 This is mostly legalese, but note the last sentence of the tweet caption itself. 1 Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 It appears they hit Cohen's appartment as well. 1 Link to comment
ZRod Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I'd imagine that's an extremely high bar to seize attorney documents. Otherwise whoever requested and signed off on the warrants are complete fools. Attorney client privilege is a pretty serious thing I'm told /s 1 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Wow......I'm shocked at this. They must think they have something much bigger than just paying Stormy. 1 Link to comment
schriznoeder Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 47 minutes ago, NM11046 said: Methinks we will either see some nutball tweets later - or we will bomb Syria. I have my money on both. Link to comment
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