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Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and Deep State Corruption

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Great column. Time to drain the swamp.

 

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Whether you are a Democrat who can’t stand Trump, a Hillary Clintonsupporter who feels robbed by Comey, or a Trump supporter, any use of wiretapping and vast prosecutorial machinery against our political campaigns and sitting presidents always has to be viewed skeptically and should meet the highest standards of conduct and impartiality. The post-election actions of these former officials makes suspect their actions as officials.

 

Hillary’s Pollster on the Deep State

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The term "deep state" has come to mean any government official or agency that doesn't adhere to the policies or beliefs of the current administration.  Such officials have existed in government throughout America's ever-changing political history.  It's only now that we have a man in the White House who demands loyalty and is paranoid about anyone not willing to kiss his ring that the term "deep state" has entered the public's vernacular.

 

It's not that it didn't exist under Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama.  It's that they weren't scared of it.  Trump is, and here we are.

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1 hour ago, knapplc said:

The term "deep state" has come to mean any government official or agency that doesn't adhere to the policies or beliefs of the current administration.  Such officials have existed in government throughout America's ever-changing political history.  It's only now that we have a man in the White House who demands loyalty and is paranoid about anyone not willing to kiss his ring that the term "deep state" has entered the public's vernacular.

 

It's not that it didn't exist under Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama.  It's that they weren't scared of it.  Trump is, and here we are.

 

Yeah, every single time I hear the term "deep state" I think, well that's just someone or an organization (like the State Department, CIA, NSA, EPA, et al) that puts their mission of protecting the USA ahead of the whims of a "president" who is mentally unstable, teetering on the brink of tyrannical madness, and despotism.

 

Trumps Manical Ego

 

And you're right, all those institutions (the "deep state") existed long before Trump.  The difference is, all previous presidents knew that their job would be easier if they worked with those institutions, not against.

 

And @Ric Flair, I seem to remember Trump on the campaign trail saying he was, "...going to drain the swamp."  Not only has he NOT drained the swamp, he's quite possibly made it even deeper, murkier, and more of a cesspool than it was previously.

 

 

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Fix a typo

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The term "deep state" is a reflection of the paranoid, desperate attempts at excusing away the failings and quite obvious flaws of the man sitting in the Oval Office. It's curious we've never heard much, if any, complaining coming from conservatives or the media figures supporting them until they put the most incompetent, openly corrupt leader we've ever seen in office. So now, instead of addressing his bad behavior, it's miraculously become a deep state problem that's destroying the country.

 

No amount of Op Eds from sympathetic people is going to change my mind on this.

 

I do agree heartily, though - drain the swamp. Let's get Trump and his pathetic circle of toadies and corrupt underlings out of Washington ASAP.

 

 

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The "deep state" is an interesting debate:

 

"California contains the Badwater Basin in Death Valley, at 279 feet (85 m) below sea level, the lowest point in the United States; while Florida has the lowest high point, and Delaware has the lowest mean elevation.Florida is also the flattest state, with the smallest difference between its highest and lowest points."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_elevation

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This is Hillary Clinton’s pollster describing what he sees as a big problem. Others from across the political specteum agree with him. But the inane responses posted here show the difficulty of having a substantive discussion here. Unless whatever is posted is some drivel bashing Trump for being some combination of stupid, crazy, and evil, no one is interested.

 

#SAD

 

 

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#SAD.  DEEP STATE.  FAKE NEWS.   any of those far right wing nut job catchphrases instantly defiles any opinions attached to them.  

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5 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Who else is watching american idol in anticipation of Comey?

 

:snacks::snacks::snacks:

 

(Not really an American Idol guy, tbh. I mostly despise all reality TV.)

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3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

This is Hillary Clinton’s pollster describing what he sees as a big problem. Others from across the political specteum agree with him. But the inane responses posted here show the difficulty of having a substantive discussion here. Unless whatever is posted is some drivel bashing Trump for being some combination of stupid, crazy, and evil, no one is interested.

 

#SAD

 

 

Your constant use of propaganda catch phrases like “liberal main stream media”....which basically means anyone but Foxnews....and “deep state” make it difficult to take your posts seriously. 

 

These terms are used for:

 

liberal main stream media = only watch fox news because that’s the only place you woll get the truth. 

 

Deep State = used to delegitimize anyone in the government who actually knows what is going on and opposes trump on anything from policy to pointing out his corruption.  

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4 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

But the inane responses posted here show the difficulty of having a substantive discussion here. Unless whatever is posted is some drivel bashing Trump for being some combination of stupid, crazy, and evil, no one is interested.

I think there's an awareness of your point here, so few even bother.

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6 minutes ago, TheSker said:

I think there's an awareness of your point here, so few even bother.

We are all well aware....

 

Why was "deep state" not an issue the past 16 years?

Why was "fake" media not an issue the past 16 years?

Why was "transgender in the military" not an issue the past 16 years?

Why was "insert Trump 'tagline here' not an issue the past 16 years?

 

Trump is an entertainer.  Some people think he is the hero, some think he is the heel.  Some think his story is a comedy, some a tragedy, some an "odyssey".  This man has made a political career of making something out of nothing, for better or worse.  The sad thing is, it is affecting our citizens and especially our youth.

 

I was recently out of town with some students and we were grabbing a bite to eat.  The TV in the dining room had up the illustration from Hannity about the "Mueller Crime Family" that included pictures of Mueller, Comey, and others.  This kid, a high school senior, mumbled about those "tricky dems".  I said, "most of the people on that graphic are Republican..." His response was something along the lines of this thread and I told him it was okay to hold whatever opinion he wanted, as long as it was at least based on fact.  Calling Mueller and Comey radical, liberal, antagonist really doesn't fit reality.  Sorry....

 

 

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25 minutes ago, TheSker said:

I think there's an awareness of your point here, so few even bother.

As we continue to confirm our own bias with arguments, I'm sure Ric would appreciate your support.  Please add to the thread if you can.

 

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5 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

This is Hillary Clinton’s pollster describing what he sees as a big problem. Others from across the political specteum agree with him. But the inane responses posted here show the difficulty of having a substantive discussion here. Unless whatever is posted is some drivel bashing Trump for being some combination of stupid, crazy, and evil, no one is interested.

 

#SAD

 

 

 

If you want to talk about the entrenched Washingron DC establishment, do that. 

 

Trump views ANYONE who opposes or questions him as an enemy.  If you can't see how that's a problem then...:dunno

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After taking the time to read the article in the OP, it's pretty clear this is - sit down - yet another conspiracy theory pushed by yet another conspiracy theorist.  Shocking that this is the kind of nonsense peddled by the OP. Again.

 

But wait!  This was produced by a "Clinton Pollster!" It can't be a right-wing conspiracy.  Well, whatever Mr. Penn's connection with Bill Clinton 20 years ago, he's gone off the rails with this kind of thing since.  Having worked with Clinton in the 1990s apparently means he's completely legitimate for the purposes of a thread like this to some people.  Weird how that works.

 

Here's an analysis of Penn's use of push polls, and you're going to be shocked at the content of the poll...

 

The Harvard-Harris Poll Scam

 

All these laments that people aren't discussing the OP fall on deaf ears when the content of the OP is clearly political hackery.  And when that's all we're getting from a certain source in thread after thread, there's a credibility question.

 

That's not the fault of the people who respond to these threads. That's the OP's problem, and the best way for the OP to fix it is to stop posting nonsense like this. 

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