Ric Flair Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Great column. Time to drain the swamp. Quote Whether you are a Democrat who can’t stand Trump, a Hillary Clintonsupporter who feels robbed by Comey, or a Trump supporter, any use of wiretapping and vast prosecutorial machinery against our political campaigns and sitting presidents always has to be viewed skeptically and should meet the highest standards of conduct and impartiality. The post-election actions of these former officials makes suspect their actions as officials. Hillary’s Pollster on the Deep State 1 Link to comment
commando Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) lol....DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE DEEP STATE.....oh...and have i said DEEP STATE yet? Edited April 15, 2018 by commando 6 Link to comment
NM11046 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 You lost me at "deep state". 4 Link to comment
knapplc Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The term "deep state" has come to mean any government official or agency that doesn't adhere to the policies or beliefs of the current administration. Such officials have existed in government throughout America's ever-changing political history. It's only now that we have a man in the White House who demands loyalty and is paranoid about anyone not willing to kiss his ring that the term "deep state" has entered the public's vernacular. It's not that it didn't exist under Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama. It's that they weren't scared of it. Trump is, and here we are. 9 Link to comment
Making Chimichangas Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, knapplc said: The term "deep state" has come to mean any government official or agency that doesn't adhere to the policies or beliefs of the current administration. Such officials have existed in government throughout America's ever-changing political history. It's only now that we have a man in the White House who demands loyalty and is paranoid about anyone not willing to kiss his ring that the term "deep state" has entered the public's vernacular. It's not that it didn't exist under Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama. It's that they weren't scared of it. Trump is, and here we are. Yeah, every single time I hear the term "deep state" I think, well that's just someone or an organization (like the State Department, CIA, NSA, EPA, et al) that puts their mission of protecting the USA ahead of the whims of a "president" who is mentally unstable, teetering on the brink of tyrannical madness, and despotism. Trumps Manical Ego And you're right, all those institutions (the "deep state") existed long before Trump. The difference is, all previous presidents knew that their job would be easier if they worked with those institutions, not against. And @Ric Flair, I seem to remember Trump on the campaign trail saying he was, "...going to drain the swamp." Not only has he NOT drained the swamp, he's quite possibly made it even deeper, murkier, and more of a cesspool than it was previously. Edited April 15, 2018 by Making Chimichangas Fix a typo Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The term "deep state" is a reflection of the paranoid, desperate attempts at excusing away the failings and quite obvious flaws of the man sitting in the Oval Office. It's curious we've never heard much, if any, complaining coming from conservatives or the media figures supporting them until they put the most incompetent, openly corrupt leader we've ever seen in office. So now, instead of addressing his bad behavior, it's miraculously become a deep state problem that's destroying the country. No amount of Op Eds from sympathetic people is going to change my mind on this. I do agree heartily, though - drain the swamp. Let's get Trump and his pathetic circle of toadies and corrupt underlings out of Washington ASAP. 2 Link to comment
Landlord Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 lol plz come back with a grown up topic of conversation 1 Link to comment
funhusker Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The "deep state" is an interesting debate: "California contains the Badwater Basin in Death Valley, at 279 feet (85 m) below sea level, the lowest point in the United States; while Florida has the lowest high point, and Delaware has the lowest mean elevation.Florida is also the flattest state, with the smallest difference between its highest and lowest points." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_elevation 1 Link to comment
commando Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 if you read "deep state" as "rule of law" it all makes much more sense. 2 Link to comment
BigRedBuster Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Oh that nasty “deep state”. Propaganda really does work when they constantly repeat key phrases. 2 Link to comment
Ric Flair Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 This is Hillary Clinton’s pollster describing what he sees as a big problem. Others from across the political specteum agree with him. But the inane responses posted here show the difficulty of having a substantive discussion here. Unless whatever is posted is some drivel bashing Trump for being some combination of stupid, crazy, and evil, no one is interested. #SAD 3 Link to comment
commando Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 #SAD. DEEP STATE. FAKE NEWS. any of those far right wing nut job catchphrases instantly defiles any opinions attached to them. 6 Link to comment
Nebfanatic Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Who else is watching american idol in anticipation of Comey? Link to comment
Danny Bateman Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said: Who else is watching american idol in anticipation of Comey? (Not really an American Idol guy, tbh. I mostly despise all reality TV.) Link to comment
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