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For the first time in years, maybe since Martinez was under center with Helu behind him,  or perhaps Suh was on the line with Gomes and Prince backing him up I’m actually intrigued to to watch them play the game. 

 

The prognosticators have generally put the Cornhuskers at 4-6 wins. The last 3-5 years I’d generally agree with their assessments of how we should finish. The paper matched the product. 

 

I’m actually excited to see the changes, the new offense and defense this season. I’ll actually watch the games with interest, win or lose. I’m feeling like the team just needs to play; on paper we are predicted to lose. On the field, I feel like we have a shot. 

 

What has been brought in as “new” over the last several seasons made me wary and not excited that the team can win or compete on paper or the field. Finally, finally I feel like what’s on paper will be far exceeded by what’s on the field. 

 

A tangible gut feeling that makes me interested to see the product, not the paper. Finally. 

 

Anyone else ready? 

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A sold out Spring Game reflects the excitement of the entire state.  It will be very intriguing to watch this team grow.  I predict they will be very good by the end of the season. GO BIG RED! :bigredn::Frosty:

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Frost has brought a lot of hope for this team/fans.........temper the expectations, this will be a process, 2-3 years before we see some marked improvement.....be patient and let this thing grow. be realistic.

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13 minutes ago, Hunter94 said:

Frost has brought a lot of hope for this team/fans.........temper the expectations, this will be a process, 2-3 years before we see some marked improvement.....be patient and let this thing grow. be realistic.

 

 

I find this unlikely unless your definition of marked improvement is vastly different than mine. I expect marked improvement this season.

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45 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

I find this unlikely unless your definition of marked improvement is vastly different than mine. I expect marked improvement this season.

 

I expect it for practice 14.

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8 hours ago, I am I said:

For the first time in years, maybe since Martinez was under center with Helu behind him,  or perhaps Suh was on the line with Gomes and Prince backing him up I’m actually intrigued to to watch them play the game. 

 

The prognosticators have generally put the Cornhuskers at 4-6 wins. The last 3-5 years I’d generally agree with their assessments of how we should finish. The paper matched the product. 

 

I’m actually excited to see the changes, the new offense and defense this season. I’ll actually watch the games with interest, win or lose. I’m feeling like the team just needs to play; on paper we are predicted to lose. On the field, I feel like we have a shot. 

 

What has been brought in as “new” over the last several seasons made me wary and not excited that the team can win or compete on paper or the field. Finally, finally I feel like what’s on paper will be far exceeded by what’s on the field. 

 

A tangible gut feeling that makes me interested to see the product, not the paper. Finally. 

 

Anyone else ready? 

Literally only last year and now this season because of last year has this happened

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1 hour ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

I find this unlikely unless your definition of marked improvement is vastly different than mine. I expect marked improvement this season.

 

I agree.  Nebraska will be a better football team this year.

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I feel as though we finally have an offensive identity and scheme that will win us a couple of the toss up games this year (and in the future).

 

The Tim Beck and Shawn Watson spreads had no identity and no bread-and-butter. The prior spread schemes we had were a hodge-podge of sh*t. I feel Frost has his base scheme with actual concepts that build off of each other - ie) an identity. We haven't had a schemer like this on the offensive side of the ball who would run plays early in games to set up schemes, flows and plays later since Osborne (not comparing him to Osborne other than what he learned as far as game-planning/scheming). Its a long way of saying that aside from the the physical gains we've heard about we will finally out coach the opponent - instead of the past 2 decades of the converse being true - which will lead to marked improvement in year one.

 

Save the "lets temper expectations posts", I don't expect double digit (10) wins this year but I do think we will be better then the 4-6 wins that are predicted. 

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I completely agree OP, for the first time in years I find myself excited for the upcoming season and the future of Husker football. It's been a while and probably since the 2010 pre-season that I felt this way. I don't expect us to compete for a conference title right away but I expect the team will look improved greatly over what we've grown accustomed to the past few years and to be back to being contenders for conference and eventually national championships within 3-5 years if I had to guess.

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I have a gut feeling that we will surprise people next year - so many of the writers have us at 5-7, 6-6 and 7-5 at the very best.  I think 8-4 and 9-3 could happen if this team really

comes together emotionally and technically.   While we don't have Ohio State talent, we do have talent and I think the poor coaching from last year hid that. 

Call it preseason :koolaid2: but this season is different than all of the other coach changes.  While we aren't going back to the old base offense of the 1990s we are going back to that attitude and that will make a difference.  Self belief + great coaching + hard work and execution =  success.

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4 hours ago, Hunter94 said:

Frost has brought a lot of hope for this team/fans.........temper the expectations, this will be a process, 2-3 years before we see some marked improvement.....be patient and let this thing grow. be realistic.

Depends on what "marked improvement" is. I expect a much better managed team. I expect a much more physical team. I expect far less stupid coaching decisions including play calls and personal decisions. I expect to have a defense on the field. Given that, I expect a minimum of 7 wins. I agree that it will take 2 or 3 years for Frost to get most of what he wants done, but that means we will be winning the BIG every couple of years. A crappy bowl win this year is the lowest end of expectations.

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I’m just excited to be excited. Haven’t had a good feeling of anticipation on many years. Apathy, I now know had set in for me. 

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Frost & Co. want the boys playing full speed, and would rather have them miss the play going 100%, then make a slow/sluggish play while getting dragged for 5 yards...

 

LOVE the attitude, but I expect some missed tackles early on in the year; however, we seemed to miss a ton of tackles the past couple seasons (actually, it seemed like our guys just weren't there to make the play, half the time).

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1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

 

Call it preseason :koolaid2: but this season is different than all of the other coach changes.  While we aren't going back to the old base offense of the 1990s we are going back to that attitude and that will make a difference.  Self belief + great coaching + hard work and execution =  success.

Are we getting back to that championship mentality? I stumbled across this last night 

 

 

It’s hard to believe that we’re close to the mindset that these players had. I’ve heard some good things and not so good things from coaches following spring practices. I think it will take several years of better results and better recruiting before players start to believe this is possible and develop the kind of drive these guys had. I believe step 1 in this process is to stop getting blown out.  Frost’s experience and familiarity with Nebraska probably makes him the coach most likely to succeed in turning the program around so hopefully next season we’ll see signs of this happening.

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1 hour ago, 4skers89 said:

Are we getting back to that championship mentality? I stumbled across this last night 

 

 

It’s hard to believe that we’re close to the mindset that these players had. I’ve heard some good things and not so good things from coaches following spring practices. I think it will take several years of better results and better recruiting before players start to believe this is possible and develop the kind of drive these guys had. I believe step 1 in this process is to stop getting blown out.  Frost’s experience and familiarity with Nebraska probably makes him the coach most likely to succeed in turning the program around so hopefully next season we’ll see signs of this happening.

I agree - it won't happen in one year - but it has happened at the top.  We finally have the HC who understand and who will change the culture

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I had no excitement the last couple of years when Bo was here or any of MR's years. It is great to have something to look forward to this year. 

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I'm stoked for Frost, but I'm also confident in the supporting cast he has around him in Moos, Bounds and Green. They all seem to be unified in their mission and goals, which is something that hasn't been the case for some time. 

 

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5 hours ago, bugeater17 said:

I feel as though we finally have an offensive identity and scheme that will win us a couple of the toss up games this year (and in the future).

 

The Tim Beck and Shawn Watson spreads had no identity and no bread-and-butter. The prior spread schemes we had were a hodge-podge of sh*t. I feel Frost has his base scheme with actual concepts that build off of each other - ie) an identity. We haven't had a schemer like this on the offensive side of the ball who would run plays early in games to set up schemes, flows and plays later since Osborne (not comparing him to Osborne other than what he learned as far as game-planning/scheming). Its a long way of saying that aside from the the physical gains we've heard about we will finally out coach the opponent - instead of the past 2 decades of the converse being true - which will lead to marked improvement in year one.

 

Save the "lets temper expectations posts", I don't expect double digit (10) wins this year but I do think we will be better then the 4-6 wins that are predicted. 

 

The maddening thing when it came to Beck is the lack of consistency, he'd roll out games where Nebraska would be hanging 40+ and other times they would just lay an egg.  The epitome of it for me was the last game he coached against USC in the Holiday Bowl.  That USC team was loaded with playmakers and Nebraska rolled all over the field against them.  I know BP did Beck zero favors when he was the HC but I couldn't help but think when I was watching that game was, "Good grief, where the heck has THIS offense been all year?"

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Something I will be interested in watching develop - remember the glory years where the team actually got BETTER as the season went on, instead of horrendously worse?   I would be thrilled with that, regardless of win totals.

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1st year will be a struggle with 8 wins being the ceiling, 6 or 7 much more likely,  2nd year will be fantastic. IMHO

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I don't like how the prognosticators have Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State as automatic losses. There is no way we lose all of those games. We will win at least one, and maybe three. 

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34 minutes ago, MichiganDad3 said:

I don't like how the prognosticators have Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State as automatic losses. There is no way we lose all of those games. We will win at least one, and maybe three. 

Yep, that’s why they play the games. On paper, I’d agree with them, especially in years past. 

 

This season im excited to see what this team brings, win or lose 

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4 hours ago, Red_Payne said:

Frost & Co. want the boys playing full speed, and would rather have them miss the play going 100%, then make a slow/sluggish play while getting dragged for 5 yards...

 

LOVE the attitude, but I expect some missed tackles early on in the year; however, we seemed to miss a ton of tackles the past couple seasons (actually, it seemed like our guys just weren't there to make the play, half the time).

 

They don't mind a missed tackle going for a big hit, in the context of the play. A huge emphasis for spring, on both sides of the ball, is to play with the correct leverage and know where your help is. When Held talks about a RB beating the safety, and Ruud talks about a LB coming up to make a tackle, they speak the same language. The fundamentals of the players will be improved because the fundamentals of the coaches are improved. 

 

More often than not we had guys to make the tackle, the problem was often that maintaining gap control became so rigid there was only one possible tackler. If he missed, it was 60. On the other hand, I was just watching one of UCF's games recently, and was very impressed how their defensive lineman bailed on screens and sweeps. Now, they didn't always make the plays they should have, either, but more often than not a ball carrier had to beat several defenders.

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1 hour ago, dvdcrr said:

1st year will be a struggle with 8 wins being the ceiling, 6 or 7 much more likely,  2nd year will be fantastic. IMHO

 

That's the likely scenario, and matches what new head coaches have historically done. There is usually, on average, about a 2 win jump from year 1 to year 2. I would note, however, that Frost having brought a complete staff that just performed a rebuild makes this a very unique situation. They're way ahead this spring in terms of installing schemes, expectations and routines, and that should snowball through summer and into fall camp. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, 4skers89 said:

I believe step 1 in this process is to stop getting blown out.

 

Good teams in this era still get blown out. It doesn't happen 5 times a season or anything like that, but it's a pretty big percentage of just about any teams losses. The offenses just have so many current advantages that it doesn't take much for a game to get out of hand. 

 

Step 1 is developing a game-like mindset every day. One of the true hallmarks of those old teams was that Saturday was easier than Tuesday. 

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2 minutes ago, brophog said:

 

Good teams in this era still get blown out. It doesn't happen 5 times a season or anything like that, but it's a pretty big percentage of just about any teams losses. The offenses just have so many current advantages that it doesn't take much for a game to get out of hand. 

 

Step 1 is developing a game-like mindset every day. One of the true hallmarks of those old teams was that Saturday was easier than Tuesday. 

We will probably get blown out at least once this year. We can't let it get us down or make us question the staff. In a couple years, it will be the Huskers delivering the beat downs, and I bet we are on the good side of most blow outs this year.

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2 hours ago, Xmas32 said:

The maddening thing when it came to Beck is the lack of consistency, he'd roll out games where Nebraska would be hanging 40+ and other times they would just lay an egg.  The epitome of it for me was the last game he coached against USC in the Holiday Bowl.  That USC team was loaded with playmakers and Nebraska rolled all over the field against them.  I know BP did Beck zero favors when he was the HC but I couldn't help but think when I was watching that game was, "Good grief, where the heck has THIS offense been all year?"

 

Beck's system wasn't a problem, but his play calling often was. He'd set up opposing defenses, and then forget to call what he was setting them up for.

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6 hours ago, 4skers89 said:

Are we getting back to that championship mentality? I stumbled across this last night 

 

 

It’s hard to believe that we’re close to the mindset that these players had. I’ve heard some good things and not so good things from coaches following spring practices. I think it will take several years of better results and better recruiting before players start to believe this is possible and develop the kind of drive these guys had. I believe step 1 in this process is to stop getting blown out.  Frost’s experience and familiarity with Nebraska probably makes him the coach most likely to succeed in turning the program around so hopefully next season we’ll see signs of this happening.

Thanks for posting the vid.  It was a cool watch.

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2 hours ago, brophog said:

 

That's the likely scenario, and matches what new head coaches have historically done. There is usually, on average, about a 2 win jump from year 1 to year 2. I would note, however, that Frost having brought a complete staff that just performed a rebuild makes this a very unique situation. They're way ahead this spring in terms of installing schemes, expectations and routines, and that should snowball through summer and into fall camp. 

 

 

They will need all the momentum they can get with our "toughest in the nation" schedule and conference which is a meat grinder and has been for some time.

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21 hours ago, I am I said:

For the first time in years, maybe since Martinez was under center with Helu behind him,  or perhaps Suh was on the line with Gomes and Prince backing him up I’m actually intrigued to to watch them play the game. 

 

The prognosticators have generally put the Cornhuskers at 4-6 wins. The last 3-5 years I’d generally agree with their assessments of how we should finish. The paper matched the product. 

 

I’m actually excited to see the changes, the new offense and defense this season. I’ll actually watch the games with interest, win or lose. I’m feeling like the team just needs to play; on paper we are predicted to lose. On the field, I feel like we have a shot. 

 

What has been brought in as “new” over the last several seasons made me wary and not excited that the team can win or compete on paper or the field. Finally, finally I feel like what’s on paper will be far exceeded by what’s on the field. 

 

A tangible gut feeling that makes me interested to see the product, not the paper. Finally. 

 

Anyone else ready? 

 

I had a dream Nebraska played Florida State for the national championship last night.  It was wild, I dreamed Rece Davis asking Coach Frost, "From 4-8 in 2017, to 15-0 conference and national champions in 2018...what was the key?"  And just as Coach Frost starts to answer, I woke up.  And it was one of those surreal dreams where, just for a second, I had to stop and say--was that real?  

 

Wishful thinking or omen of future events?  :dunno

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19 minutes ago, Making Chimichangas said:

 

I had a dream Nebraska played Florida State for the national championship last night.  It was wild, I dreamed Rece Davis asking Coach Frost, "From 4-8 in 2017, to 15-0 conference and national champions in 2018...what was the key?"  And just as Coach Frost starts to answer, I woke up.  And it was one of those surreal dreams where, just for a second, I had to stop and say--was that real?  

 

Wishful thinking or omen of future events?  :dunno

 

It's better than the last dream I had about a football game, and i hope you have the gift of sight.  My dream was the night before the B1G Championship vs Wisconsin.  I dreamed that we got completely spanked in the game and when I woke up was so relieved that it was just a dream.  Then the game actually happened, and was far worse than the score in my dream.

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