***Official Mariners Misery Thread***

[Xmas32]

In the thread @Savage Husker and I complain about the Mariners and their lack of recent playoff appearances.  Also, thanks to the dipsh^^ pitcher who plunked Robby Cano on the hand and broke it.  I didn't even realize Gordon Beckham was still in the majors.

[Xmas32]

And now Cano is suspended for 80 games.  Great.  Just.  Great.

[Savage Husker]

Haha this suspension is the least surprising and most mariners thing imaginable for a season poised to end a playoff drought. 

 

Not much need to find a starter right away, but at least they free up $12mil to spend on something.

 

#17andcounting

[Xmas32]

@Savage Husker man how great is this?!  First Haniger gets drilled in the forearm and will probably be out for a couple days and then Segura dinged his shoulder scoring the winning run after diving into home plate and running into Lucroy.  That means 5 of the top 6 hitters in the Ms opening day lineup will probably be out tonight.  Awesome.  But, hey apparently Jayson Werth is still around!  I saw the Ms are bringing him up from Tacoma.  That being said, the pitching staff is holding tough and has been a really nice surprise.  Leake looked good again last night with the exception of the dumb mistake on the error that helped keep Oakland's inning alive and ultimately led to their 2 runs.

[Savage Husker]

They’re grinding it out. It’s been nice to follow a winning team who is staying in contention, just wish they could start winning some series off of Astros and Angels. They have a lot of depth in the lineup and unsung heroes stepping up at the right time - Zunino’s homer last night was a beauty. Just stay within striking distance while the starters nurse their nicks and get hot in the summer

[Savage Husker]

Marco Gonzalez throwin some ched. His last two starts now have been real impressive. Be nice to hold up that consistency.

[Xmas32]

Agreed Gonzales was dealing 2 nights ago.  He's pitched with alot more aggressiveness in his last couple starts and it's obviously yielded some positive results.  King Felix continues to struggle early in games, he just can't seem to avoid the big inning in the 1st 3.  I feel like the Ms got a little unlucky when they only came away with 1 run having the bases loaded w/ Cruz up and only getting 3 runs off 10 or 11 hits is a tough break.  That being said, they ran pretty pure the first 2 games with pulling out the late win on Tuesday.  Hard to argue with winning 2 of 3 at Oakland.

 

Good chance to rip off a nice homestand with Minnesota, Texas and TB coming into town.

[MLB 51]

Looks like the M's made a trade today.

 

 

[Xmas32]

Thanks for posting @MLB 51, saw the news this morning.  While I don't love trading a SP prospect that was close to major league ready in Moore, he was at best projecting to be a back end rotation guy.  Acquiring Colome helps bolster the bullpen a little bit more as Nicasio has struggled with late inning, high leverage situations.  Span will most likely slide into LF and take away alot of playing time for Ben Gamel.  All and all I think the trade is fine, the Ms have a really tough June ahead with 2 games against Houston and then from 6/11-6/28 they play LAA and a 4 game set against Boston before going on the road and playing NYY, Boston and Baltimore.

[Xmas32]

Thanks for coming out Minnesota..

 

 

 

[PaulCrewe]

No “look who’s in first” post.  I’m disappointed 

[Xmas32]

23 hours ago, PaulCrewe said:

No “look who’s in first” post.  I’m disappointed 

 

Haha if the Ms are still swinging after the next couple weeks I'll allow myself to start to be tricked into believing.

[Xmas32]

Ms take Logan Gilbert from Stetson in the 1st round.  I didn't get a chance to see him pitch this weekend during the regionals but he appears to be pretty salty.

[MLB 51]

1 hour ago, Xmas32 said:

Ms take Logan Gilbert from Stetson in the 1st round.  I didn't get a chance to see him pitch this weekend during the regionals but he appears to be pretty salty.

He was a target of the Yankees. Good pick, he will need some time to work on secondary pitches, but he is already projected to make it to the Show.

[Xmas32]

10 hours ago, MLB 51 said:

He was a target of the Yankees. Good pick, he will need some time to work on secondary pitches, but he is already projected to make it to the Show.

 

That's good to hear.  Jay Yencich from USS Mariner does a great job of breaking down the Ms draft picks and minor league stuff and this is what he had to say...

 

http://www.ussmariner.com/

 

Round One: RHP Logan Gilbert, 6’6″, 225 lbs, 5/5/1997, Stetson
2016: 2-1, 21 G (5 GS), 2.74 ERA in 49.0 IP, 44 H (3 HR), 19 R (15 ER), 43/27 K/BB
2017: 10-0, 15 G (12 GS), 2 CG, 2.02 ERA in 89.0 IP, 65 H (HR), 23 R (20 ER), 107/26 K/BB
2018: 10-1, 14 G (14 GS), 2.52 ERA in 100.0 IP, 60 H (7 HR), 31 R (28 ER), 143/20 K/BB

This is a paradoxical one, in that on the one hand, it’s a name I’m fairly familiar with, having been mocked to us by MLB.com most recently and off-and-on by evaluators throughout. On the other, I hadn’t anticipated Liberatore, Gorman, Singer, or various others to be among the available picks at the time, and was starting to think “What about Turang? What about Rocker?” Of course, the scouts themselves have their own preferences, and I had a notion that we might be looking in the direction of the SE, thus lining up with Rocker or Georgia prep Ethan Hankins. I’ll admit, I didn’t bother looking up where Stetson University was, which would have pointed me in the right direction being in central Florida.

Gilbert’s a peculiar one, in that he’s a college arm, but doesn’t fit the more moderate ceiling projections that we often tag on those guys, nor is he someone who had a late growth spurt and gained about a foot sometime after junior high. Instead, he’s a converted infielder who didn’t start pitching regularly until late in high school and on into college. It means less mileage on the arm, which is comforting, but it also means there’s more room for potential development in the offerings beyond the general pitching smarts and change-up that appear to already be there. One knock on Gilbert right now is that he’s yet to commit to one breaking ball or another, throwing both but neither as quite a plus. At the same time, I see it as a good match for us, in that we’ve had some success getting our guys to develop a true breaking ball. For whatever else you can say, you can look at the video overlay .gif and see the same basic slot producing both two distinct pitches. For a guy who hasn’t been pitching forever, you wouldn’t anticipate the mechanics being as good as they are.

You also wouldn’t really anticipate the numbers being where they are either. As you can see from the numbers above, the hits and the walks have steadily gone down (and the WHIP, for whatever use you have for that) and the Ks have kept going up. The only two real blips that you can see on there are that the home runs seemed a bit excessive this season and that the ERA (again, for whatever use you have for that) went up a little his junior year. As the numbers go, one issue mentioned is that he had some trouble getting going this season, and rather than throwing in the mid-90s, he was down to the low-90s earlier on. He still is a long-armed dude who spots the ball down well, so he was able to play just fine without it, but if the velocity comes back to the mid-90s, you can see where it could be a strong arsenal.

So, we didn’t pick one of the consensus top players left available, but Gilbert himself is in a fascinating position being both really good and, developmentally, somewhere between a college arm and a prep arm as far as his general track goes. He’s grown into his body and gone through the awkward phases, but possesses more room to improve on his offerings the likes of which can only come with more repetition and experience. This could end up extending his development time, but we’re getting the best of both worlds if we’re patient with him and confident in how we can get him to where he needs to be.