Why It's Not as Bad as It Feels

[MountainMan]

8 minutes ago, TheSker said:

2015 was Mike Riley's first season.  I did not plead for patience with Riley.....quite the opposite.

 

Riley had a horrible resume' and an athletic director with the bold claim Riley was brought in to take the team to the next level.

 

Your post could not be more incorrect.

The irony here is hilarious. The same guys who were calling for Riley's head after the BYU game are now preaching "patience" and claiming that the Nebraska Way pixie dust will take time to work. 



Daily Reminder: When you:

1.) are one of the top-paid coaches in America;
2.) were given a blank check to hire anyone you wanted for assistant coaches; and
3.) needlessly spent your offseason taking cheap shots at the previous staff

...people are going to question your efforts after you open 0 - 2 including a loss to a Sun Belt team. 

No one expects you to win a conference championship this year. But when your team comes out flat and uninspired after taking a loss to Colorado...

[JJ Husker]

17 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

As it was in 2015, when you also pleaded patience.

 

 

So, are you saying patience is not the answer? Or are you saying you see more similarities with this team and 2015? Or were you just being cute in pointing this out?

[Saunders]

1 minute ago, MountainMan said:

The irony here is hilarious. The same guys who were calling for Riley's head after the BYU game are now preaching "patience" and claiming that the Nebraska Way pixie dust will take time to work. 

Not even remotely comparable.

 

Riley took over a team that hadn't won less than 9 games in over 7 seasons. And proceeded to drive it into the ground.

 

Frost has to fix that mess.

[Redux]

20 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

As it was in 2015, when you also pleaded patience.

 

 

 

I seem to remember TheSker being beyond insufferable concerning Mike Riley, think he wanted him fired before game 1 IIRC.

[JJ Husker]

7 minutes ago, Undone said:

Honestly it would just be really nice if threads wouldn't devolve into arguing over past coaches and who did/didn't support them.

 

This thread has good potential to actually discuss our team's play.

Well ...MountainMan blew the hell out of that plan almost immediately.

[Jeremy]

6 minutes ago, MountainMan said:

The irony here is hilarious. The same guys who were calling for Riley's head after the BYU game are now preaching "patience" and claiming that the Nebraska Way pixie dust will take time to work. 



Daily Reminder: When you:

1.) are one of the top-paid coaches in America;
2.) were given a blank check to hire anyone you wanted for assistant coaches; and
3.) needlessly spent your offseason taking cheap shots at the previous staff

...people are going to question your efforts after you open 0 - 2 including a loss to a Sun Belt team. 

No one expects you to win a conference championship this year. But when your team comes out flat and uninspired after taking a loss to Colorado...

Well, Frost and the Nebraska Way mentality are here, and not going anywhere, so if that really just grinds your gears, there are plenty of other teams to pull for.

 

 

[JJ Husker]

While we're on the subject of why it may not be as bad as it seems. Now just imagine if Riley were still our coach and provide an honest guess at how you think the first 2 games would've gone. Sure we'd still be 0-2 but would there be any, a shred of hope for the future or any identifiable improvements? And if you have a problem with Frost, who else could've/would've done any better with the mess he inherited? Relax. Rome wasn't built in a day. Considering the last 17 years, I think we can wait a year or two, and for sure more than only two games, to see W-L results 

[Undone]

17 minutes ago, MountainMan said:

The irony here is hilarious. The same guys who were calling for Riley's head after the BYU game are now preaching "patience" and claiming that the Nebraska Way pixie dust will take time to work. 



Daily Reminder: When you:

1.) are one of the top-paid coaches in America;
2.) were given a blank check to hire anyone you wanted for assistant coaches; and
3.) needlessly spent your offseason taking cheap shots at the previous staff

...people are going to question your efforts after you open 0 - 2 including a loss to a Sun Belt team. 

No one expects you to win a conference championship this year. But when your team comes out flat and uninspired after taking a loss to Colorado...

 

First of all...as to the bolded, you joined this board in July of 2016. So how tf would you know?

 

To everything else you said, Martinez got injured during what might have been a touchdown drive to seal the win against Colorado and didn't play against Troy. And the next best QB on the team transferred. 

 

Pump the brakes on your outrage. It's so outlandish that it almost feels like trolling.

[Whistlepig]

21 minutes ago, MountainMan said:

The irony here is hilarious. The same guys who were calling for Riley's head after the BYU game are now preaching "patience" and claiming that the Nebraska Way pixie dust will take time to work. 



Daily Reminder: When you:

1.) are one of the top-paid coaches in America;
2.) were given a blank check to hire anyone you wanted for assistant coaches; and
3.) needlessly spent your offseason taking cheap shots at the previous staff

...people are going to question your efforts after you open 0 - 2 including a loss to a Sun Belt team. 

No one expects you to win a conference championship this year. But when your team comes out flat and uninspired after taking a loss to Colorado...

hate SF much? did he beat you at marbles when you were a kid?

[MountainMan]

4 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

While we're on the subject of why it may not be as bad as it seems. Now just imagine if Riley were still our coach and provide an honest guess at how you think the first 2 games would've gone. Sure we'd still be 0-2 but would there be any, a shred of hope for the future or any identifiable improvements? And if you have a problem with Frost, who else could've/would've done any better with the mess he inherited? Relax. Rome wasn't built in a day. Considering the last 17 years, I think we can wait a year or two, and for sure more than only two games, to see W-L results 

 

I don’t know if Riley would be 0-2 or not. He was fired, he performed poorly enough to be fired and he was. 

 

Blaming him for this start seems a little far flung when it seems to be consensus that our turnover margins have cost Nebraska their first two games and the people who have committed them, Adrian Martinez, Bunch, Bell, et al, aren’t Riley guys. 

 

That’s not a previous staff/culture thing. That may exist, but there’s been no shortage of roster turnover and talk of buy in that the “fix what Riley broke” trope seems forced. 

[MountainMan]

6 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

First of all...as to the bolded, you joined this board in July of 2016. So how tf would you know?

 

To everything else you said, Martinez got injured during what might have been a touchdown drive to seal the win against Colorado and didn't play against Troy. And the next best QB on the team transferred. 

 

Pump the brakes on your outrage. It's so outlandish that it almost feels like trolling.

I was responding directly to a guy who said he wanted Riley out after BYU 2015. 

[Guy Chamberlin]

31 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

So, are you saying patience is not the answer? Or are you saying you see more similarities with this team and 2015? Or were you just being cute in pointing this out?

 

1) Patience is the answer.

2) The topic was finding hope in close losses, so yes, that's a similarity.

3) Just being cute. 

[Making Chimichangas]

8 minutes ago, MountainMan said:

I was responding directly to a guy who said he wanted Riley out after BYU 2015. 

 

To be fair, many of us NEVER wanted Riley hired in the first place.  We knew he was a failure from the outset.

 

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

47 minutes ago, TheSker said:

2015 was Mike Riley's first season.  I did not plead for patience with Riley.....quite the opposite.

 

Riley had a horrible resume' and an athletic director with the bold claim Riley was brought in to take the team to the next level.

 

Your post could not be more incorrect.

 

Boy, that went over your head. 

[Guy Chamberlin]

Just to be clear, this is what I posted on another thread:

 

A year ago most folks were saying that a run-first offense and a QB who could complete 70% of his passes was just what we needed. 

 

I've seen plenty of experienced first-string Nebraska quarterbacks have much worse days than Andrew Bunch did yesterday. Throwing Bunch under the bus doesn't explain much.

 

For the last two weeks, Nebraska had some very big penalties go their way, and got away with a lot of uncalled stuff, too. Let's not talk about the officiating. The legitimate penalties are bad enough. 

 

We've also gotten away with a few fumbles we managed to recover. We aren't snakebit, just sloppy.

 

As always, the play-calling is great when it works, idiotic when it doesn't, and the play you would have called would have been totally awesome. 

 

Some people think 9 carries for 27 yards Devine Ozigbo could have fallen forward for that two-point conversation because he was having his way with the Troy defense. It's possible that we're still living in a 1990s daydream.

 

Add it all up, and it seems to be a matter of discipline and focus. The team can't maintain a rhythm. It's hard to do, because that's exactly what opposing DC try to break, but it's also what a veteran, well-coached team does. 

 

We aren't a veteran team, and honestly our coach isn't quite a veteran himself. The team appears to have energy and talent and it would be sad and stupid not to assume they can get better every week.

 

The team has screwed up the Scott Frost love-fest that was waiting to explode, losing two games we were desperate to pencil in on the win column. As bad as the reaction is on this board, it's hard to imagine any coach we would have kept or hired not getting it worse.

 

Don't know how far this particular team can go, but I'm definitely interested in watching them gel and find their rhythm. I actually expect them to give Michigan fits and wouldn't be shocked if they won.

 

There's too much of the season left to be this cranky.