Nebraska vs. #13 Creighton 12/6/12
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You guys are dead wrong when it comes to McDermott. He doesn't look the part. That's certainly true and everyone knows it. What makes him a great player, and yes, he is a great player, are his intangibles. Much in the same way that Tyler Hansborough and Jimmer Fredette were elite college players, McDermott is as well. He beats you to spots, he crashes the boards harder than you, he uses his body well, he runs the floor, he does the little things.
wiuhusker
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This is true. Maybe saying I am unimpressed with his skill set was the wrong way of phrasing it. He's not a flashy player but is solid and fundamentally sound. I would take Zeller from IU Plumlee from Duke or McAdoo from UNC before I would McDermott.
You guys are dead wrong when it comes to McDermott. He doesn't look the part. That's certainly true and everyone knows it. What makes him a great player, and yes, he is a great player, are his intangibles. Much in the same way that Tyler Hansborough and Jimmer Fredette were elite college players, McDermott is as well. He beats you to spots, he crashes the boards harder than you, he uses his body well, he runs the floor, he does the little things.
Nebula
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Interesting views on McDermott expressed in here. I turned to my buddy numerous times last night and said, "well, hard to stop that. Dammit...that kid is good, gotta admit."
Seeing him in person, he's bigger than I thought. And what makes him good is that he just seems to intuitively know how to get the ball in the basket. It's not pretty a lot of the times...he scores a lot of workmanlike baskets in the paint. You don't get additional points for aesthetics though.
And he's got range, obviously. Honestly, we all know that game was pretty much going one way about ten minutes into the first half. At one point, we were trailing by a decent margin, and someone (Talley, maybe? Who had a tough game, btw) hit a three, and Doug marches down court and IMMEDIATELY drains a three, just steps up and swishes it like he was taking a drink of water. I'm a Husker guy period. From my vantage point, Doug McDermott is the real deal. He might not be a back to back national AA, but the kid isn't overhyped. He's legit.
This season will be tough. A huge percentage of our offense is going to have to be supplied by Talley and Gallegos. And when we start playing the really good teams, both of those guys are going to be hot for us to pull out a win. Last night neither guy had his game going, and we see the result. We've got three kids redshirting who would play substantial minutes if they could this season, and we'll be bringing in an upper tier guard next season.
Guys....we're gonna have to do our best to force ourselves to be patient this year. But I think we all knew that anyway.
EDIT: I didn't mean Creighton isn't one of those really good teams, btw. I mean, that's basically what played out. Dylan struggled offensively and Gallegos didn't do much. (And he was confusingly kept off the court quite a bit, I thought anyway.)
Seeing him in person, he's bigger than I thought. And what makes him good is that he just seems to intuitively know how to get the ball in the basket. It's not pretty a lot of the times...he scores a lot of workmanlike baskets in the paint. You don't get additional points for aesthetics though.
And he's got range, obviously. Honestly, we all know that game was pretty much going one way about ten minutes into the first half. At one point, we were trailing by a decent margin, and someone (Talley, maybe? Who had a tough game, btw) hit a three, and Doug marches down court and IMMEDIATELY drains a three, just steps up and swishes it like he was taking a drink of water. I'm a Husker guy period. From my vantage point, Doug McDermott is the real deal. He might not be a back to back national AA, but the kid isn't overhyped. He's legit.
This season will be tough. A huge percentage of our offense is going to have to be supplied by Talley and Gallegos. And when we start playing the really good teams, both of those guys are going to be hot for us to pull out a win. Last night neither guy had his game going, and we see the result. We've got three kids redshirting who would play substantial minutes if they could this season, and we'll be bringing in an upper tier guard next season.
Guys....we're gonna have to do our best to force ourselves to be patient this year. But I think we all knew that anyway.
EDIT: I didn't mean Creighton isn't one of those really good teams, btw. I mean, that's basically what played out. Dylan struggled offensively and Gallegos didn't do much. (And he was confusingly kept off the court quite a bit, I thought anyway.)
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Lyons in the Sea of Red.
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I counted at least three times where he was matched up one on one in the block with Peltz, and even better yet, BENNY PARKER, and he couldn't seal them on the block. Peltz pushed his backdown attempt to the 3 point line. Utterly hilarious. An all american, on a 6 foot walk on. Couldn't capitalize. Almost all of his points came off bad switches on screens, and he had at least 5 misses within 5 feet.
It's all subjective, but if he played in the B1G he wouldn't have half the hype he does.
It's all subjective, but if he played in the B1G he wouldn't have half the hype he does.
Lyons in the Sea of Red.
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Ratt Mhule
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I have watched Husker basketball ever since 1969. When NU built the Devaney Sports Center, it was supposed to put us in the top echelon of our conference and help us be competitive . Well, how did that work out? A few notable wins here and there but nothing of major importance. However if you read my statement, "Now, the question remains, will the new head coach be able to recruit, teach basketball and get this program to improve? He has a monumental job ahead of him," no where did I say we didn't improve. Improvement is relative only to the place from where you start. So, showing improvement in this team does not mean we will win a lot of games this year. I hope the man can recruit, because in the day and age that is the bottom line.
One thing I did notice about last night, was our ineptness on defense. We are not fast, not quick, and not too smart on making defensive switches, a lethal combination as is evidenced by the final score. The NU players did not stay with their assigned man and got burnt by numerous wide open shots drained by the Jays.
I support all NU sports. However, I am not one to get all excited and jump on the bandwagon about improvement when you start as far back as we are. Improvement to me means winning games consistently, winning some notable big games, and winning (or at least contending/competing for) championships! Then, and only then, can you really measure improvement.
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Ratt Mhule
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Lyons in the Sea of Red.
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You better go look it up then, huh? We understand you are all over his nuts. You obviously don't understand what subjective means.
Ratt Mhule
Heisman Trophy Winner
No, I just think hes a good player. As I do many other players around the nation.
Your "subjective" opinion is based on your hate for Creighton, which you spew every year. You picked a few plays out of a game and claim he shouldn't be an all-american when hes proven time and again he can hang with some teams from the better conferences. He scored 20 against UNC, which is just a few points off his season average. He scores 30 against Wisconsin which is known as one of the better defensive teams in the B1G. Those are just two examples. Watch some of their games this year and watch them objectively, not rooting against Creighton, and then talk to me about the type of player he is. If you still think the same, then thats fine.
Until then, keep hating on Creighton and their fans and saying Im all over McDermotts nuts. Sorry that I enjoy watching good basketball players. Im all over a bunch of players nuts then, in college and the NBA.
And one last thing, you guys that keep saying this series will be all Nebraska starting next year without basing it on anything except Tim Miles, this will never be a one-sided rivalry for either team. Tim Miles probably will make Nebraska a good ball team, but Creighton usually always has a solid team. I can see it as going back and forth, but never one-sided.
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redout22
Heisman Trophy Winner
Well its really in the eyes of the official.. You really aren't supposed to, it still is considered a pass to yourself (which is why Miles was so pissed because it didnt hit anything) but the officials can judge is a conscious attempt at making it was attempted. The officials and Coach thought differently.