When 9 wins a year isn't the whole story.

Moiraine said:
I'd rather see a comparison of how other 9 win schools do against 9+ win schools.
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Probably not very well. That's why they're 9-win schools
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Michigan under Brady Hoke:

13 win teams: 0-2, -25.5 ppg

12 win teams: 1-2, -4.3 ppg

11 win teams: 1-2, -5.3 ppg

10 win teams: 1-1, -3.5 ppg

9 win teams: 2-1 +11.7 ppg

8 win teams: 3-2, +6.8 ppg

7 win teams: 4-2, +9 ppg

6 win teams: 7-0, +23 ppg

Teams with more wins: 3-10, -5.4 ppg

Teams with equal amount of wins: 1-2, -4.7 ppg

Teams with fewer wins: 22-1, +20.9 ppg

 
Bye Bye Big XII said:
Michigan under Brady Hoke:

13 win teams: 0-2, -25.5 ppg

12 win teams: 1-2, -4.3 ppg

11 win teams: 1-2, -5.3 ppg

10 win teams: 1-1, -3.5 ppg

9 win teams: 2-1 +11.7 ppg

8 win teams: 3-2, +6.8 ppg

7 win teams: 4-2, +9 ppg

6 win teams: 7-0, +23 ppg

Teams with more wins: 3-10, -5.4 ppg

Teams with equal amount of wins: 1-2, -4.7 ppg

Teams with fewer wins: 22-1, +20.9 ppg
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He's not doing so hot either.

 
NUpolo8 said:
Saw this kickin around and thought it might be fun here.

Now, Bo Pelini and Nebraska finished off with a bowl win, and that's a good thing, and of course the #9wins mantra kicked into full froth again as a sign of improvement, steadiness, and something to build for towards the future.

So admittedly, I hate the 9 wins argument, and it's been discussed to death here, be it a good or bad thing. So, let's just look at how Bo gets his 9/10 wins a year.

Bo Pelini vs BCS opponents according to wins.

13+ game winners: 0-2

12+ game winners: 0-6

11+ game winners: 2-10

10+ game winners: 4-14

9 + game winners: 5-17

8 + game winners: 13-20

7 + game winners: 21-22

6 + game winners: 24-23

Avg point margin against BCS opponents.

13 Wins: -7ppg

12 Wins: -19ppg

11 Wins: -8.5

10 Wins: -7.6ppg

9 Wins: -6.75ppg

8 Wins: 2.3ppg

7 Wins: 9.8ppg

6 Wins: 10.5ppg

If you consider 9 wins Nebraska's standard, Nu currently has a .227 winning percentage against their peers. And holy crap the point differential.

Ultimately, I think most people would like those stats to improve. This seems to show a heavy reliance on beating some pretty poor teams to salvage a "benchmark" season. Something many NU fans used to mock schools like KState for.
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Auburn has won 9 or more games 2 of the last 6 seasons.

Nebraska has won 9 or more games 6 of the last 6 seasons.

And yet, 95% of fans would trade for the results of their six in a heartbeat. Because theirs included truly satisfying accomplishments: Two SEC championships and a National Championship. We got three mid-tier bowl wins and a moral victory against Texas.

 
I am I said:
Bob stoops hasn't done itLes miles, urban Meyer, jimbo fisher, bill Snyder, mark richt, mike Grundy haven't either.
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That should be clue #42 that winning 9 games 6 years in a row, as your top accomplishment, doesn't really mean very much. Sure it's something, but the flip side is he has also lost 4 games every year. I do not believe that stat impresses anyone and I doubt the 4 losses per year stat applies to any of the coaches you named.

I would find it impressive if and when we quit suffering blowout losses, win the games we should, and win at least some of the games we shouldn't. Who knows, that might even lead to some conference championships and bcs bowl appearances. Until then, nine wins = meh.

 
Po Belini said:
NUpolo8 said:
I am I said:
Bob stoops hasn't done itLes miles, urban Meyer, jimbo fisher, bill Snyder, mark richt, mike Grundy haven't either.
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Is this to infer that Bo is a better coach than any of those? Because that is flipping laughable.
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Hes beaten Snyder (2-0), Richt (1-1) and Gundy (1-0)...
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Damn your facts he is trying to make a point.

It would be interesting to see this against other Big Ten teams. My guess is it would be very similar. All he has done is shown our stat, but has not given us a reference point to see how it stacks up. It is pretty worthless.

 
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JTrain said:
Auburn has won 9 or more games 2 of the last 6 seasons.

Nebraska has won 9 or more games 6 of the last 6 seasons.

And yet, 95% of fans would trade for the results of their six in a heartbeat. Because theirs included truly satisfying accomplishments: Two SEC championships and a National Championship. We got three mid-tier bowl wins and a moral victory against Texas.
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No frickin thanks.

 
No frickin thanks?!?!?!?

I don't know how 100% of Huskers fans wouldn't trade our last 6 years for Auburn's TWO National Titles! He didn't say anything about "how" just results! We haven't even won two conference titles...

 
Mr. Accountability said:
JTrain said:
Auburn has won 9 or more games 2 of the last 6 seasons.

Nebraska has won 9 or more games 6 of the last 6 seasons.

And yet, 95% of fans would trade for the results of their six in a heartbeat. Because theirs included truly satisfying accomplishments: Two SEC championships and a National Championship. We got three mid-tier bowl wins and a moral victory against Texas.
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No frickin thanks.
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He still could be right, you could be in the 5%. However, I wouldn't take Auburn's results either.

 
HuskerBob4 said:
No frickin thanks?!?!?!?

I don't know how 100% of Huskers fans wouldn't trade our last 6 years for Auburn's TWO National Titles! He didn't say anything about "how" just results! We haven't even won two conference titles...
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They won two in the last 6 years?

 
For comparison, here is Auburn's final record for the last 6 years. They only finished in the top 25 two times but both times they were fantastic teams.

5-7

8-5

14-0

8-5

3-9

12-2

If that 3-9 were 6-6 or 7-5 I think it's an easy decision to trade results. The 3-9 makes me really have to think on it but I still think I would take that trade.

 
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