QUARTERBACK PLAY
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kchusker_chris
All-American
Would Ganz fit into your description? Or any number of other high performing junior/seniors that didn't have the "it factor" the first day the set foot on campus?
A lot of great college quarterbacks go off campus for training and work on their techniques in the off season. I'm not sure if you have to have someone on staff that can specifically focus on developing the QB and his talent. That's not something I know a lot about when it comes to other colleges/staffs and what their makes-ups are. Might be something to look into, though.
All I know is Stanton was a finalist at the Elite 11 QB camp, joining a group of some extremely talented college QB's in the last decade. Pretty fine company to be mentioned with (names like Vince Young, Matthew Stafford and Andrew Luck, for example). Throw on that TA also has a lot of talent and game experience, and you gotta like how this competition is shaping up.
IMHO the most important thing outside of playmaking ability/leadership is ball security. This was a huge problem in recent years. I'll sacrifice a little explosiveness or game-changing ability if it means we'll turn the ball over less. Whoever our starter is, he has to take care of the football better than TM did.
All I know is Stanton was a finalist at the Elite 11 QB camp, joining a group of some extremely talented college QB's in the last decade. Pretty fine company to be mentioned with (names like Vince Young, Matthew Stafford and Andrew Luck, for example). Throw on that TA also has a lot of talent and game experience, and you gotta like how this competition is shaping up.
IMHO the most important thing outside of playmaking ability/leadership is ball security. This was a huge problem in recent years. I'll sacrifice a little explosiveness or game-changing ability if it means we'll turn the ball over less. Whoever our starter is, he has to take care of the football better than TM did.
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well said. I concur that ball security is really important and that I will take that over explosiveness from a QB any day. Just distribute the ball, make few mistakes... leave the explosiveness to Bell, Abdullah, etc.
I think you both are right. Certain great ones simply have it and can be refined and honed by coaching but will succeed mightily even in the absence of solid coaching contributions. Such players are comparatively rare. Guys like Ganz clearly do not fall into that category --- he was not that inherently gifted... but was skilled nonetheless. For guys like Ganz, it is still largely natural talent (in his case taking time to develop) but coaching can make a bigger difference in cases like this (a bigger differential) than with the superstars.
yeah we can have qb's that are pretty good but more than likely they would have to be pretty good before they got here. If our qb struggles are still going on after this season, i hope Bo thinks about bringing in a QB coach and not just a GA to help out.
I'm assuming this is referring to Martinez. Are you seriously trying to say he didn't audible well and often? I really can't believe anyone who has watched Nebraska football over the last four years could attempt to make that statement.
i have brought this issue up many times, no one thinks we need a true qb coach....so our qbs will be half a$$ in their skills.
True2tRA
Banned
Oh good god! Really? For the love of all that is holy people get the f#*k over it if I didn't think the kid was that great at QB! I didn't think he was dog sh#t either. I thought he spent much of his career learning the fundamentals if the position. I'm waiting for the day Nebraska gets a guy who is refine in that aspect, and spends his time focusing on running this offense and reading defenses! I think the direction of the offense changed as Taylor got better, but I'm hoping tommy Armstrong shows us what Beck has desired his offense to be all along. It's not a vote of confidence in Becks play calling, but it is as far as what I think he wants to be. He was the passing game coordinator at Kansas. They were very good then, and they were a TIMING based offense.
Enough of this open ended bullsh#t of " I assume you're talking about Martinez, I can't believe you would say that about him". I'm not saying he f'ing sucked! I'm saying we can be much better! End of story.
Enough of this open ended bullsh#t of " I assume you're talking about Martinez, I can't believe you would say that about him". I'm not saying he f'ing sucked! I'm saying we can be much better! End of story.
True2tRA
Banned
I'm so sick of every conversation I comment about a QB turns into me somehow bashing Taylor. Get over it folks, I think we will have better QB's at some point down the road. So twenty years from now if I'm still here and you're still here and I say I'm really excited to see what the next QB at Nebraska can do in 2034, I don't want to f'ing hear,"what, you think he'll be better than Taylor?". YES FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, I THINK SO!
Redux
Assistant Coach
We love Taylor because of what he was and what he could have been. We mourn his graduation because his Senior season was cut off at the knees. We revere the kid because he was well respected by his team and not as he should have been by his community.
With that said, Johnny Stanton looks to have the makings of a heisman candidate. Tommy has some good potential too but the highlights of Stanton and his already impressive resume lead me to lean he gets the start over TA come fall.
With that said, Johnny Stanton looks to have the makings of a heisman candidate. Tommy has some good potential too but the highlights of Stanton and his already impressive resume lead me to lean he gets the start over TA come fall.
zoogs
Assistant Coach
I'd say wait and see on Beck, Hunter. He's designed offenses in the Texas HS ranks, worked as passing game coordinator under Mangino, and so on -- I think he's at least quite familiar with working with QBs. Taylor was always gonna be playing catch up here, but I mean, he had just started playing QB before he arrived. I don't think that's a reflection at all on his QB coaches. And RK3, I think his veteran experience and leadership will be very valuable to him as a GA next year.
Most OCs also double as QBs coach, if I'm not mistaken, and it makes sense given how closely the job descriptions are intertwined -- designing the offense and coordinating with the guy who has to go out there and run the show.
Lastly, not to dive into the fray here again, but I didn't know that TM was particularly known for his audible prowess, although he did do it often later in his career. Though, I'm confused as to why our QBs are asked to do it at all when it seems the sidelines signal in all the audibles with boards of Jeff Jamrog's face after they see the defensive alignment. (btw...Jeezus, calm down, True! hahaha.)
Most OCs also double as QBs coach, if I'm not mistaken, and it makes sense given how closely the job descriptions are intertwined -- designing the offense and coordinating with the guy who has to go out there and run the show.
Lastly, not to dive into the fray here again, but I didn't know that TM was particularly known for his audible prowess, although he did do it often later in his career. Though, I'm confused as to why our QBs are asked to do it at all when it seems the sidelines signal in all the audibles with boards of Jeff Jamrog's face after they see the defensive alignment. (btw...Jeezus, calm down, True! hahaha.)
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